Re: TSM/TDP and MySQL

2010-05-19 Thread Steven Harris

Hi Zoltan

I had a meeting a couple of months back withe the local TSM sales guy
and the whole sales stack back to the US, and raised the issue of other
DBMS.   they pointed me at Zmanda for Mysql and BMC SQLBacktrack for
Sybase.  I wasn't impressed either.

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin,
Paraparaumu, New Zealand.

Remco Post wrote:

On 18 mei 2010, at 16:23, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:



Thanks for the reference.  I should have mentioned I already looked at
this.

My bosses requirements are: ANY product must be supported by
IBM/Tivoli for usage on a TSM server. Point-in-time recovery is mandatory,
or there is no point to using any product.

From what I have read (correct me if I am wrong) about using mysqldump, it
doesn't do/support this process.



it does. You can keep as many backups as you want, and make them as frequently 
as you want. MySQL supports roll-forward of database journals IIRC, so if you 
set the DB to roll-forward logging, archive the logs to TSM and make frequent 
MySQL dumps, you can recover to any point in time. Of course, if your data is 
that valuable that you need to be able to recover to any specific point in 
time, investing in a commercial DB like db2 or Oracle makes sense.

API applications are all supported for usage on a TSM server. It's just that 
the code using the API is not supported, so that part is up to you. That is the 
way open source works

Zmanda most likely uses the TSM API as well, it's just a commercial 
implementation... So you pay for support rather than do it yourself.




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Re: TSM/TDP and MySQL

2010-05-18 Thread Mark Yakushev
Hi Zoltan,

Take a look at the Backing Up Databases Using ADSMPIPE and the TSM API:
Examples Using Linux Redbook -
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/redp3980.html?Open

It has a section on backing up MySQL.

Regards,

Mark Yakushev


From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU zfor...@vcu.edu
To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date: 05/18/2010 06:37 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] TSM/TDP and MySQL



This is a 2-part question:

#1 - Has anybody heard of any rumors (or a we are planning to) that
IBM/Tivoli will have a TDP for MySQL?

#2 - How do you backup MySQL?  We are increasingly expanding MySQL use and
since IBM currently doesn't offer a TDP for MySQL, we are looking at other
commercial products like Zmanda Recovery Manager (
http://www.zmanda.com/tivoli-mysql-backup.html)

Zoltan Forray
TSM Software  Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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Re: TSM/TDP and MySQL

2010-05-18 Thread Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Thanks for the reference.  I should have mentioned I already looked at
this.

My bosses requirements are: ANY product must be supported by
IBM/Tivoli for usage on a TSM server. Point-in-time recovery is mandatory,
or there is no point to using any product.

From what I have read (correct me if I am wrong) about using mysqldump, it
doesn't do/support this process.
Zoltan Forray
TSM Software  Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
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never use email to request that you reply with your password, social
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From:
Mark Yakushev bar...@us.ibm.com
To:
ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Date:
05/18/2010 09:52 AM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] TSM/TDP and MySQL
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Hi Zoltan,

Take a look at the Backing Up Databases Using ADSMPIPE and the TSM API:
Examples Using Linux Redbook -
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/redp3980.html?Open


It has a section on backing up MySQL.

Regards,

Mark Yakushev


From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU zfor...@vcu.edu
To:   ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu
Date: 05/18/2010 06:37 AM
Subject:[ADSM-L] TSM/TDP and MySQL



This is a 2-part question:

#1 - Has anybody heard of any rumors (or a we are planning to) that
IBM/Tivoli will have a TDP for MySQL?

#2 - How do you backup MySQL?  We are increasingly expanding MySQL use and
since IBM currently doesn't offer a TDP for MySQL, we are looking at other
commercial products like Zmanda Recovery Manager (
http://www.zmanda.com/tivoli-mysql-backup.html)

Zoltan Forray
TSM Software  Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
zfor...@vcu.edu - 804-828-4807
Don't be a phishing victim - VCU and other reputable organizations will
never use email to request that you reply with your password, social
security number or confidential personal information. For more details
visit http://infosecurity.vcu.edu/phishing.html


Re: TSM/TDP and MySQL

2010-05-18 Thread Remco Post
On 18 mei 2010, at 16:23, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote:

 Thanks for the reference.  I should have mentioned I already looked at
 this.
 
 My bosses requirements are: ANY product must be supported by
 IBM/Tivoli for usage on a TSM server. Point-in-time recovery is mandatory,
 or there is no point to using any product.
 
 From what I have read (correct me if I am wrong) about using mysqldump, it
 doesn't do/support this process.

it does. You can keep as many backups as you want, and make them as frequently 
as you want. MySQL supports roll-forward of database journals IIRC, so if you 
set the DB to roll-forward logging, archive the logs to TSM and make frequent 
MySQL dumps, you can recover to any point in time. Of course, if your data is 
that valuable that you need to be able to recover to any specific point in 
time, investing in a commercial DB like db2 or Oracle makes sense.

API applications are all supported for usage on a TSM server. It's just that 
the code using the API is not supported, so that part is up to you. That is the 
way open source works

Zmanda most likely uses the TSM API as well, it's just a commercial 
implementation... So you pay for support rather than do it yourself.
-- 
Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind Regards,

Remco Post
r.p...@plcs.nl
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