Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? Bye Rainer -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Personal experience with a 80GB database was 33minutes when going from 5.5.1.6 to 6.1 Beta. JoeA Joseph A Abbott MCSE 2003/2000, MCSA2003 Partners Healthcare Systems Development Team Tivoli Storage Manager jabb...@partners.org Cell-617-633-8471 Desk-617-724-4929 Page-# (617) 362-6341 jabb...@usamobility.net I can't tell you how much I wish we could just shut up and smile. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Tammer Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? Bye Rainer -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail.
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
As with anything, YMMV. The planning guide - current goal for upgrade is 5GB to 10GB/hr Hart, Charles A charles_h...@uhc.com Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/13/2009 10:26 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately.
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:38:11AM -0500, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: As with anything, YMMV. The planning guide - current goal for upgrade is 5GB to 10GB/hr Is there any requirement that the 'source' database be fully audited before the upgrade? Does the upgrade db catch any 'hidden' problems in the pre V6 database, or does it just crash and burn? Any beta testers care to comment? bob
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? There are different methods to upgrade the DB. Perhaps they have not tried them all. I certainly did not see that here. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 (office) (858)412-9883 (blackberry) Email: geoffrey.l.g...@saic.com
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Is there any requirement that the 'source' database be fully audited before the upgrade? Does the upgrade db catch any 'hidden' problems in the pre V6 database, or does it just crash and burn? I have seen issues with my db upgrade but discovered they were there before the upgrade. I restored my old db and ran commands to fix the problems and at this time am trying to go through the upgrade again, but I suspect I will not see these issues now. I'm not one to speak for IBM but I would hope based on what others have seen that there would be a procedure to minimize any db issues before running the upgrade especially if the upgrade will not find them. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 (office) (858)412-9883 (blackberry) Email: geoffrey.l.g...@saic.com [Gill, Geoffrey L.]
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
_Top_of_Message_ On 13 feb 2009, at 04:02, Remco Post wrote: be ware that TSM on z/OS has been at about ADSM 3.7 capability level in most recent releases and that if you required new features IBM would direct you to zLinux anyway, this is nothing new Nonsense; Having run two z/OS servers for the last 15 years, I would question what new features you are speaking of. My current z/OS version (5.5.2) most certainly has little in common with ADSM 3.7, having pretty much all of the features available on other platforms. Sam Sheppard San Diego Data Processing Corp. (858)-581-9668
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
That's Great! Better than the 5-6GBH advertised. Could you let us know what type of infrastructure? pSeried / Disk Type etc? Thanks! -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Abbott, Joseph Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:04 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Personal experience with a 80GB database was 33minutes when going from 5.5.1.6 to 6.1 Beta. JoeA Joseph A Abbott MCSE 2003/2000, MCSA2003 Partners Healthcare Systems Development Team Tivoli Storage Manager jabb...@partners.org Cell-617-633-8471 Desk-617-724-4929 Page-# (617) 362-6341 jabb...@usamobility.net I can't tell you how much I wish we could just shut up and smile. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Tammer Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? Bye Rainer -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageM an ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. The information in this e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you believe this e-mail was sent to you in error and the e-mail contains patient information, please contact the Partners Compliance HelpLine at http://www.partners.org/complianceline . If the e-mail was sent to you in error but does not contain patient information, please contact the sender and properly dispose of the e-mail. This message, including any attachments, contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. TIAA-CREF
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
The organization I belong to in IBM was involved in the beta program for TSM V6. We assisted customers in the installation and training for the new release. I did the education for the DB Upgrade process, and also assisted in some of the testing for it. I'd like to pass on several comments here concerning this post. 1. IBM set a goal for the DB Upgrade process of 5GB/hr, and that is the expectation we'd like to set. As people have said, YMMV, and we have seen cases where customers have gotten much better than this. There are a lot of factors that can influence the upgrade performance, but the expectation or goal is 5GB/hr. 2. The final code is not finished yet. Remember, announcement was this week, but GA is not until end of March. There are still a few enhancements that development is considering to possibly speed this up. 3. I would strongly suggest attending a Storage Technical Exchange being given 2/26 (8:00 am PST) on an overview of TSM V6. This is NOT a session that will go into details of the functions of V6. It is more of a session to explain the considerations that should be thought about before starting the migration to TSM V6. We're going to talk about things you may want to consider such as hardware requirements, software requirements. space requirements, and upgrade techniques to the new database. Lots of questions are being raised here about what this migration will involve. I would suggest asking them at this session. At 11:03 AM 2/13/2009 -0500, you wrote: Personal experience with a 80GB database was 33minutes when going from 5.5.1.6 to 6.1 Beta. JoeA Joseph A Abbott MCSE 2003/2000, MCSA2003 Partners Healthcare Systems Development Team Tivoli Storage Manager jabb...@partners.org Cell-617-633-8471 Desk-617-724-4929 Page-# (617) 362-6341 jabb...@usamobility.net I can't tell you how much I wish we could just shut up and smile. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Tammer Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? Bye Rainer -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Where can one get information on this offering, is it a web seminar ? Storage Technical Exchange being given 2/26 (8:00 am PST) on an overview of TSM V6 Tim -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu]on Behalf Of Dave Canan Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:06 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: TSM v6 -announcement The organization I belong to in IBM was involved in the beta program for TSM V6. We assisted customers in the installation and training for the new release. I did the education for the DB Upgrade process, and also assisted in some of the testing for it. I'd like to pass on several comments here concerning this post. 1. IBM set a goal for the DB Upgrade process of 5GB/hr, and that is the expectation we'd like to set. As people have said, YMMV, and we have seen cases where customers have gotten much better than this. There are a lot of factors that can influence the upgrade performance, but the expectation or goal is 5GB/hr. 2. The final code is not finished yet. Remember, announcement was this week, but GA is not until end of March. There are still a few enhancements that development is considering to possibly speed this up. 3. I would strongly suggest attending a Storage Technical Exchange being given 2/26 (8:00 am PST) on an overview of TSM V6. This is NOT a session that will go into details of the functions of V6. It is more of a session to explain the considerations that should be thought about before starting the migration to TSM V6. We're going to talk about things you may want to consider such as hardware requirements, software requirements. space requirements, and upgrade techniques to the new database. Lots of questions are being raised here about what this migration will involve. I would suggest asking them at this session. At 11:03 AM 2/13/2009 -0500, you wrote: Personal experience with a 80GB database was 33minutes when going from 5.5.1.6 to 6.1 Beta. JoeA Joseph A Abbott MCSE 2003/2000, MCSA2003 Partners Healthcare Systems Development Team Tivoli Storage Manager jabb...@partners.org Cell-617-633-8471 Desk-617-724-4929 Page-# (617) 362-6341 jabb...@usamobility.net I can't tell you how much I wish we could just shut up and smile. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rainer Tammer Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:58 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Hello, Hart, Charles A wrote: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw is this is true than this would be a nightmare. Can anyone comment on that ?? Bye Rainer -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Raibeck Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:19 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement Actually 6.1 has not been released yet; it has only been *announced*. Electronic availability date is March 27, 2009, and media availability date is April 24, 2009. Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan ager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/12/2009 10:02:20 PM: [image removed] Re: TSM v6 -announcement Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU to: ADSM-L 02/12/2009 10:07 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:25:23 -0600, Hart, Charles A charles_h...@uhc.com said: Couple folks just came back from pulse and one of the Labs was the TSM Upgrade, apparently some Beta testers are seeing a 40GB upgrade DB taking 28Hrs on avg hdw Mmm. I don't know if I'm supposed to still be embargoed, but I guess that if they're talking about it at conferences I can too.. Data point: my 40G DB; Extract database: 0:41 Insert database: 7:20 This was part of an exercise where they were having me test with a slightly optimized version too, and that insert time was 5:06. This is on two-year-old p520s. - Allen S. Rout
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They might want to recheck that time for the webcast. It's listed as starting at 1 AM! I suspect it's at 1 PM. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:28 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Tim Brown wrote: Where can one get information on this offering, is it a web seminar ? Storage Technical Exchange being given 2/26 (8:00 am PST) on an overview of TSM V6 http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/supp_tech_exch.html
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I see it at 11 AM Eastern. See Ya' Howard -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement They might want to recheck that time for the webcast. It's listed as starting at 1 AM! I suspect it's at 1 PM. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Sims Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:28 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement On Feb 13, 2009, at 2:20 PM, Tim Brown wrote: Where can one get information on this offering, is it a web seminar ? Storage Technical Exchange being given 2/26 (8:00 am PST) on an overview of TSM V6 http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/supp_tech_exch.htm l
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I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay?
Re: TSM v6 -announcement
Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay?
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On 13 feb 2009, at 04:02, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: Having been a V6.1 beta tester (now that it has been released I guess I can speak about it), I can confirm that as of the last update I have not seen anything for zOS other than s390 Linux. be ware that TSM on z/OS has been at about ADSM 3.7 capability level in most recent releases and that if you required new features IBM would direct you to zLinux anyway, this is nothing new Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. non-x86_64 being 32bit linux on intel/amd CPU, LinuxPPC and zLinux will be supported... Gee, Norman norman@lc.ca.gov Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 02/12/2009 07:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU To ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: [ADSM-L] TSM v6 -announcement I have read announcement letter 209-004 multiple times and was looking at the server documentation that was available and there were no mention of TSM version 6 for z/OS server. There were documentation for z/OS BA client and API. Is this a subtle hint that TSM version 6 for z/OS server is not available or is it being drop? Is it being delay? -- Met vriendelijke groeten/Kind regards Remco Post r.p...@plcs.nl +31 6 24821 622
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Hello, Remco Post wrote: On 13 feb 2009, at 04:02, Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU wrote: ... cut for clarity ... Also, they will not be supporting Linux NON-x64, which causes me issues since 2 of my RH Linux server are not x64 capable and will require replacing/upgrading/merging with another server. non-x86_64 being 32bit linux on intel/amd CPU, LinuxPPC and zLinux will be supported... according to the announcement on http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21243309 Linux x86_32 is not supported for the server. Bye Rainer Tammer
