Re: VTS or san disk storage
I have 12TB of SATA storage in the form of a Virtual Tape Library (VTL) appliance, in my case a SEPATON S2100-ES2. To TSM it's just a tape library on steroids (rapid mounts, dismounts, etc). I have routinely pushed in excess of 80 MB/sec. with no problems. It's scalable to 1PB storage capacity and 4.3TB/hour. Mine is not that large, configured with only 64 virtual tape drives. The drives even do compression just like a real tape drive. I decided not to go with serial file devices because I did wanted to keep the ability to do LAN-free backups, easy scalability and did not want to force the overhead of compression on the TSM clients or server. Milton Johnson -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Zarnowski Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 10:10 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage Any success stories out there for using large amounts of serial-access disk with TSM? At 06:19 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: >Richard, > >I share your pain. > >We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN. We have found that AIX in general, >and TSM in particular, can just "hose" the sucker. > > I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the > > management of it is just a pain. > > I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM > > Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to > > further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 > > just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple > > filesystems. After hearing this, we have been leaning towards > > investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a > > VTL appliance. I'm interested in other's comments about where, > > specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM. -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Systems Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTS or san disk storage
On a related note (if somewhat off-topic) Can somebody point me to a mailing list/resources for Enterprise Storage Servers? Recently I "inherited" the administration of an ESS F20 for no other reason than the fact that I use space of it for my TSM disk pools (and the fact that the current admin left in a hurry). This is a nice, sturdy system but the admin software is idiosyncratic to say the least and while I wait for the training to be approved, I'd like to have a place I can turn to for tips and stuff. (Thank god for the support contract, or I'd simply leave those "message" lights on until smoke comes out of the cabinet) I appreciate any pointers you can give me. Regards Rafael On 11/30/05, Dearman, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Your situation sounds even worse than mine. When I lose a lun I only > lose that particular lun. Other systems and luns on the controller are > still functional. Although in order to get that lun back I must > shutdown every system connected to the controller then reboot the > controller and the lun comes back. I was told later by HP that the > controller can only handle 6-9 I/O requests per lun per second. I am > looking for other storage units that can handle more requests than that. > I noticed that I don't have this problem with IBM storage at least the > ssa's we don't have any IBM san storage. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Tab Trepagnier > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:20 PM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage > > Richard, > > I share your pain. > > We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN. We have found that AIX in general, > and > TSM in particular, can just "hose" the sucker. > > Your observations about write cache were echoed by EMC. We had to turn > off write-cache on our TSM disk pool LUNs because the SAN storage > processors couldn't keep up with the incoming data rate and manage the > cache at the same time. > > In our case, it manifested itself as a total network freeze! > > Once our TSM server - a 2-way 6H1 - started writing to our five-disk > RAID-3 LUNs, the I/O would hog the SAN so that no other servers - like > our > domain controllers - would get any disk access. Disk queue length on > the > DCs went to 50+. With the DCs locked out of the disks, they couldn't > process DNS lookups, logins, etc. so our Active Directory LAN just hung. > The odd thing is that all our TSM disks are in their own disk pod; the > only thing shared between TSM and the remainder of the servers was the > internal fiber loops and the SPs. There was no disk contention between > TSM and anything else. > > We duplicated the problem when creating disk volumes in TSM. We > duplicated the problem when our Windows-based Domino servers backed up > to > SAN-based disk pools. We duplicated the problem when we copied a large > database from one Oracle server to another; both with data volumes on > the > SAN. All of this occurred at data rates of about 50-55 MB/s. We use > RAID-3 for TSM disk pools and RAID-5 for everything else. > > With the write cache turned off we get more like 12 MB/s streaming to a > five-disk RAID-3 array. > > So with TSM using the SAN as a major storage resource, we've had to give > up performance and reliability. On the upside, at least it's only three > times as expensive as tape! > > Tab Trepagnier > TSM Administrator > Laitram, L.L.C. > > > > > > > > > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/29/2005 > 09:48:08 AM: > > > I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the > > management of it is just a pain. For instance if you are using a > vendor > > such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is > > not the greatest. We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage > > controllers. TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the > > particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be > > rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the > > reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all > the > > data on that lun. I have run into this problem many times over the > past > > few years. HP says disable caching at the controller level which may > > work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option. > > > > You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would > > run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you > > commit to it because I have had this problem with other sa
Re: VTS or san disk storage
Your situation sounds even worse than mine. When I lose a lun I only lose that particular lun. Other systems and luns on the controller are still functional. Although in order to get that lun back I must shutdown every system connected to the controller then reboot the controller and the lun comes back. I was told later by HP that the controller can only handle 6-9 I/O requests per lun per second. I am looking for other storage units that can handle more requests than that. I noticed that I don't have this problem with IBM storage at least the ssa's we don't have any IBM san storage. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tab Trepagnier Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 5:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage Richard, I share your pain. We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN. We have found that AIX in general, and TSM in particular, can just "hose" the sucker. Your observations about write cache were echoed by EMC. We had to turn off write-cache on our TSM disk pool LUNs because the SAN storage processors couldn't keep up with the incoming data rate and manage the cache at the same time. In our case, it manifested itself as a total network freeze! Once our TSM server - a 2-way 6H1 - started writing to our five-disk RAID-3 LUNs, the I/O would hog the SAN so that no other servers - like our domain controllers - would get any disk access. Disk queue length on the DCs went to 50+. With the DCs locked out of the disks, they couldn't process DNS lookups, logins, etc. so our Active Directory LAN just hung. The odd thing is that all our TSM disks are in their own disk pod; the only thing shared between TSM and the remainder of the servers was the internal fiber loops and the SPs. There was no disk contention between TSM and anything else. We duplicated the problem when creating disk volumes in TSM. We duplicated the problem when our Windows-based Domino servers backed up to SAN-based disk pools. We duplicated the problem when we copied a large database from one Oracle server to another; both with data volumes on the SAN. All of this occurred at data rates of about 50-55 MB/s. We use RAID-3 for TSM disk pools and RAID-5 for everything else. With the write cache turned off we get more like 12 MB/s streaming to a five-disk RAID-3 array. So with TSM using the SAN as a major storage resource, we've had to give up performance and reliability. On the upside, at least it's only three times as expensive as tape! Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram, L.L.C. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/29/2005 09:48:08 AM: > I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the > management of it is just a pain. For instance if you are using a vendor > such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is > not the greatest. We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage > controllers. TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the > particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be > rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the > reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all the > data on that lun. I have run into this problem many times over the past > few years. HP says disable caching at the controller level which may > work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option. > > You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would > run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you > commit to it because I have had this problem with other san storage > units as well. We also keep disk storage in multiple locations across > campus via long haul san connections which mean multiple luns to manage > and many filesystems which if you are in an HACMP configuration takes > time for failover to occur and filesystem mounts to take place. > > In conclusion make sure what ever storage you choose is reliable and > able to handle the high I/O load tsm will can on it. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Zarnowski > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:40 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage > > At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote: > >We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily > >backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. > >The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...] > > I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM > Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to > further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 > just added the ability for a SAD
Re: VTS or san disk storage
Any success stories out there for using large amounts of serial-access disk with TSM? At 06:19 PM 11/29/2005, you wrote: Richard, I share your pain. We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN. We have found that AIX in general, and TSM in particular, can just "hose" the sucker. > I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the > management of it is just a pain. > I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM > Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to > further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 > just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple > filesystems. After hearing this, we have been leaning towards > investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL > appliance. I'm interested in other's comments about where, > specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM. -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Systems Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTS or san disk storage
Richard, I share your pain. We have an EMC Clariion CX500 SAN. We have found that AIX in general, and TSM in particular, can just "hose" the sucker. Your observations about write cache were echoed by EMC. We had to turn off write-cache on our TSM disk pool LUNs because the SAN storage processors couldn't keep up with the incoming data rate and manage the cache at the same time. In our case, it manifested itself as a total network freeze! Once our TSM server - a 2-way 6H1 - started writing to our five-disk RAID-3 LUNs, the I/O would hog the SAN so that no other servers - like our domain controllers - would get any disk access. Disk queue length on the DCs went to 50+. With the DCs locked out of the disks, they couldn't process DNS lookups, logins, etc. so our Active Directory LAN just hung. The odd thing is that all our TSM disks are in their own disk pod; the only thing shared between TSM and the remainder of the servers was the internal fiber loops and the SPs. There was no disk contention between TSM and anything else. We duplicated the problem when creating disk volumes in TSM. We duplicated the problem when our Windows-based Domino servers backed up to SAN-based disk pools. We duplicated the problem when we copied a large database from one Oracle server to another; both with data volumes on the SAN. All of this occurred at data rates of about 50-55 MB/s. We use RAID-3 for TSM disk pools and RAID-5 for everything else. With the write cache turned off we get more like 12 MB/s streaming to a five-disk RAID-3 array. So with TSM using the SAN as a major storage resource, we've had to give up performance and reliability. On the upside, at least it's only three times as expensive as tape! Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram, L.L.C. "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/29/2005 09:48:08 AM: > I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the > management of it is just a pain. For instance if you are using a vendor > such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is > not the greatest. We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage > controllers. TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the > particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be > rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the > reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all the > data on that lun. I have run into this problem many times over the past > few years. HP says disable caching at the controller level which may > work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option. > > You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would > run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you > commit to it because I have had this problem with other san storage > units as well. We also keep disk storage in multiple locations across > campus via long haul san connections which mean multiple luns to manage > and many filesystems which if you are in an HACMP configuration takes > time for failover to occur and filesystem mounts to take place. > > In conclusion make sure what ever storage you choose is reliable and > able to handle the high I/O load tsm will can on it. > > -Original Message- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Zarnowski > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:40 AM > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage > > At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote: > >We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily > >backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. > >The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...] > > I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM > Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to > further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 > just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple > filesystems. After hearing this, we have been leaning towards > investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL > appliance. I'm interested in other's comments about where, > specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM. > > ..Paul > > > > -- > Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 > Manager, Storage Systems Fx: 607-255-8521 > 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** > > This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are > addressed. If you are not t
Re: VTS or san disk storage
I have about 6TB of san disk space used for nightly backups and the management of it is just a pain. For instance if you are using a vendor such as HP for your san disks the compatibility with IBM equipment is not the greatest. We use HP EMA 12000 with hsg80 san storage controllers. TSM will max out the I/O to the san controllers then the particular lun will hang and then the san storage controller must be rebooted to get the lun accessible again to aix but even after the reboot the lun is available to aix but unreadable so now I lost all the data on that lun. I have run into this problem many times over the past few years. HP says disable caching at the controller level which may work but disk I/O will be extremely slow so that is not an option. You can attribute these problems to incompatible hardware but I would run what ever disk storage you choose through the ringer before you commit to it because I have had this problem with other san storage units as well. We also keep disk storage in multiple locations across campus via long haul san connections which mean multiple luns to manage and many filesystems which if you are in an HACMP configuration takes time for failover to occur and filesystem mounts to take place. In conclusion make sure what ever storage you choose is reliable and able to handle the high I/O load tsm will can on it. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Zarnowski Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:40 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: VTS or san disk storage At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote: >We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily >backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. >The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...] I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple filesystems. After hearing this, we have been leaning towards investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL appliance. I'm interested in other's comments about where, specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM. ..Paul -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Systems Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947.
Re: VTS or san disk storage
At 11:33 AM 11/23/2005, Dearman, Richard wrote: We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare [...] I am curious what kind of problems you are running into. At the TSM Symposium at Oxford this year, IBM indicated that they were going to further develop the serial access disk support in TSM. And, TSM 5.3 just added the ability for a SAD devclass to span multiple filesystems. After hearing this, we have been leaning towards investing in inexpensive disk managed by TSM rather than buying a VTL appliance. I'm interested in other's comments about where, specifically, they are having problems managing SAD directly by TSM. ..Paul -- Paul ZarnowskiPh: 607-255-4757 Manager, Storage Systems Fx: 607-255-8521 719 Rhodes Hall, Ithaca, NY 14853-3801Em: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VTS or san disk storage
Ah, that is right I don't work in the Mainframe arena so I forgot about that VTS. As Mark stated, there is now a new VTL (Virual Tape Libary) that IBM sells. I believe it was announced in October. Here is a link http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/tape/virtualization/index.html This product is not running TSM under the covers. Kyle TSM_User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The latest VTS from IBM does not run TSM under the covers. I'm not sure if you are thinking about VTS (Virtual Tape System) or something else like a Document Management system. "Gee, Norman" wrote: I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VTS or san disk storage We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from EMC. Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had good or bad experiences with them. thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: VTS or san disk storage
The latest VTS from IBM does not run TSM under the covers. I'm not sure if you are thinking about VTS (Virtual Tape System) or something else like a Document Management system. "Gee, Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VTS or san disk storage We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from EMC. Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had good or bad experiences with them. thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: VTS or san disk storage
If it is the rumored OEM-version of FalconStor's VTL product, then it may not be bad. I've worked with that product and it "appeared" pretty decent. my 2 coppers... Troy Barnhart, Sr. Systems Programmer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rapid City Regional Hospital, Rapid City, South Dakota, 57701 ph: 605-719-8068 / fax: 605-719-4206 -Original Message- From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:32 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] VTS or san disk storage IBM has a new virtual tape library; it's either out now or will be very soon. The verdict on *that* is still out. -- (note my new address) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***Note: The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the Sender immediately by a "reply to sender only" message and destroy all electronic or paper copies of the communication, including any attachments.
Re: VTS or san disk storage
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 11/23/2005 10:55:35 AM: > I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS > internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on > cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache > prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates > IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or > 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. VTS was never meant as a virtual tape library for TSM; it was constructed for mainframe storage usage. IBM has a new virtual tape library; it's either out now or will be very soon. The verdict on *that* is still out. -- (note my new address) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Electronic Privacy Notice. This e-mail, and any attachments, contains information that is, or may be, covered by electronic communications privacy laws, and is also confidential and proprietary in nature. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you are legally prohibited from retaining, using, copying, distributing, or otherwise disclosing this information in any manner. Instead, please reply to the sender that you have received this communication in error, and then immediately delete it. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. ==
Re: VTS or san disk storage
I would not consider using IBM VTS as a possible solution. The VTS internally also runs ADSM. If the tape volumes you want is not on cache, the VTS has to retrieve it from tape, place it on disk cache prior to sending it to the servers. This takes time. My VTS emulates IBM 3490E cartridge tapes. These tapes has a native capacity of 800MB or 2.4GB compress. This is not a lot of data these days. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dearman, Richard Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 8:34 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: VTS or san disk storage We currently use several TB of san based disk storage for our daily backups which gets migrated during the day to multiple tape libraries. The san disk administration has become a nightmare and I was thinking of replacing it with a VTS from IBM or other disk library such as one from EMC. Do you guys have experiences with disk library based systems and have any pro or con comments on them and whether or not you have had good or bad experiences with them. thanks **EMAIL DISCLAIMER*** This email and any files transmitted with it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender or contact Health Information Management 312.413.4947.