Re: What stripe size to use for TSM DB, LOG

2002-10-02 Thread Roger Deschner

Im my experience, it is better NOT to stripe the TSM database.
Fragmentation is a way of life for the ITSM Database. This insures that
I/O seek locations will be randomly spread across the entire database.
If you stripe, you increase the number of heads that must move for each
I/O operation. This hurts your potential multiprogramming level - better
to have just one head move for each operation, freeing the other heads
for use by other threads. So, don't stripe, unless you have the luxury
of a completely idle system when you do DBBackup. On our system,
everything happens all the time, and the best we can hope for is
"somewhat less of everything else" during a DBBackup.

The Log is VERY different; striping can help. The Log is run as a
sequential, circular buffer.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Seay, Paul wrote:

>Stripe size is very hardware dependent.
>
>Paul D. Seay, Jr.
>Technical Specialist
>Naptheon Inc.
>757-688-8180
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kilchenmann Timo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:25 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: What stripe size to use for TSM DB, LOG
>
>
>Dear all,
>
>>From a previous threat I learned, that TSM fills a DB volume an than goes to
>the next one. Same is true for the LOG volumes - no "load balancing" like on
>STG Volumes via client sessions.
>
>In this case (DB & LOG) I plan to use AIX LVM to stripe the logical volumes
>over the available physical disks. The question here is what stripe size
>should I use? Any suggestions?
>
>Many thanks in advance!!!
>
>Timo
>



Re: What stripe size to use for TSM DB, LOG

2002-10-02 Thread Seay, Paul

Stripe size is very hardware dependent.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-Original Message-
From: Kilchenmann Timo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 11:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What stripe size to use for TSM DB, LOG


Dear all,

>From a previous threat I learned, that TSM fills a DB volume an than goes to
the next one. Same is true for the LOG volumes - no "load balancing" like on
STG Volumes via client sessions.

In this case (DB & LOG) I plan to use AIX LVM to stripe the logical volumes
over the available physical disks. The question here is what stripe size
should I use? Any suggestions?

Many thanks in advance!!!

Timo



Re: What stripe size to use for TSM DB, LOG

2002-10-02 Thread Andrew Carlson

I played with this at one time, with 6 36GB SSA disks.  I found the
smallest stripe size (4K) worked the best.  I cut 50% of my DB backup
time going from 128K to 4k stripe size.  I saw little or no observable
difference for my client backups, but that machine has other resource
issues that may have masked the effect.


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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Kilchenmann Timo wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> >From a previous threat I learned, that TSM fills a DB volume an than goes
> to the next one. Same is true for the LOG volumes - no "load balancing"
> like on STG Volumes via client sessions.
>
> In this case (DB & LOG) I plan to use AIX LVM to stripe the logical volumes
> over the available physical disks. The question here is what stripe size
> should I use? Any suggestions?
>
> Many thanks in advance!!!
>
> Timo
>