Re: restore question
It sounds as though an older version of a file was restored, then later a newer version of the same file was attempted. Were you doing a Point in Time restore? -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeannie Bruno Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:21 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] restore question Hello. Wondering if anyone else has ever seen this scenario: We had a 2003 windows server that died last week. Got a new 2008 server this week. Did the restore for the 'user' drive for all their data. (Used the TSM gui to do the restore. TSM client version 6.1.2). But during the restore about 4 hours into it, we got the prompt to 'replace the existing file?' message for one of the files that was being restored. Now because this is a brand new server that never had any user data on it, why would we get prompted this message? Before we started the restore, we did not choose any of the restore options for the replacing,etc, because it was a brand new server, i didn't think this was necessary to do. anyone know why this happened?? thanks. Jeannie Bruno Systems Analyst jbr...@cenhud.com 284 South Ave. Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 845-486-5780 This message contains confidential information and is only for the intended recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this note and deleting all copies and attachments. Thank you. IMPORTANT: E-mail sent through the Internet is not secure. Legg Mason therefore recommends that you do not send any confidential or sensitive information to us via electronic mail, including social security numbers, account numbers, or personal identification numbers. Delivery, and or timely delivery of Internet mail is not guaranteed. Legg Mason therefore recommends that you do not send time sensitive or action-oriented messages to us via electronic mail. This message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author by replying to this message and then kindly delete the message. Thank you.
Re: restore question
Happens rarely, but I've seen it before. Freaked me out. Has to do with how Windows creates the under-the-covers 8.3 DOS file names. TSM backs up and catalogs the filenames with the long-name version, but when it restores the file, NTFS will still create the 8.3 filenames by default. Here's how it can happen: Suppose you have files called whoop~1.txt whoopee2001.txt If whoopee2001.txt gets restored first (totally by accident), NTFS will create the short name whoop~1.txt for it. Then when it tries to restore whoop~1.txt, you get the error message you saw, i.e. a file name clash. (And as I recall, the error message may use the long file name, so it's not necessarily apparent what the problem is.) You have to have files of just the right names, just the right length names, in the same directory, and an accident of restore order to make it happen, so you rarely see it. (It's most likely to occur in directories where files are generated by a software package where some developer has brilliantly decided to use a lot of ~ in the generated filenames, so you may be able to identify exactly which directory has the issue.) Simple solutions: -If it only happens on 1 or 2 files, be confident that TSM is OK, write the file name down. After you've finished the big restore, go back and find those files in TSM and restore them to different directories, then drag them back to where they belong. -If it happens a lot and you are nervous about the results, or your restore needs to run a long time unattended, you can disable Windows NTFS 8.3 name creation, run your restore, then re-enable the NTFS 8.3 name creation. (The downside of that is if you have users that for some reason regularly refer to the short 8.3 form of the file name -- again most likely program developers -- they may have some patching to do after the restore.) Here are references that may explain it better and help you determine if this is your problem. The MS article has instructions for turning off 8.3 filename creation: https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21304777 https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC45443 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeannie Bruno Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:21 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] restore question Hello. Wondering if anyone else has ever seen this scenario: We had a 2003 windows server that died last week. Got a new 2008 server this week. Did the restore for the 'user' drive for all their data. (Used the TSM gui to do the restore. TSM client version 6.1.2). But during the restore about 4 hours into it, we got the prompt to 'replace the existing file?' message for one of the files that was being restored. Now because this is a brand new server that never had any user data on it, why would we get prompted this message? Before we started the restore, we did not choose any of the restore options for the replacing,etc, because it was a brand new server, i didn't think this was necessary to do. anyone know why this happened?? thanks. Jeannie Bruno Systems Analyst jbr...@cenhud.com 284 South Ave. Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 845-486-5780 This message contains confidential information and is only for the intended recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this note and deleting all copies and attachments. Thank you.
Re: restore question
thanks! Our tech support didn't write down the file name and I believe it was only 1 file, but I will ask if he happens to remember the name. And I will check out those sites. - Original Message - From: Prather, Wanda wprat...@icfi.com To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] restore question Happens rarely, but I've seen it before. Freaked me out. Has to do with how Windows creates the under-the-covers 8.3 DOS file names. TSM backs up and catalogs the filenames with the long-name version, but when it restores the file, NTFS will still create the 8.3 filenames by default. Here's how it can happen: Suppose you have files called whoop~1.txt whoopee2001.txt If whoopee2001.txt gets restored first (totally by accident), NTFS will create the short name whoop~1.txt for it. Then when it tries to restore whoop~1.txt, you get the error message you saw, i.e. a file name clash. (And as I recall, the error message may use the long file name, so it's not necessarily apparent what the problem is.) You have to have files of just the right names, just the right length names, in the same directory, and an accident of restore order to make it happen, so you rarely see it. (It's most likely to occur in directories where files are generated by a software package where some developer has brilliantly decided to use a lot of ~ in the generated filenames, so you may be able to identify exactly which directory has the issue.) Simple solutions: -If it only happens on 1 or 2 files, be confident that TSM is OK, write the file name down. After you've finished the big restore, go back and find those files in TSM and restore them to different directories, then drag them back to where they belong. -If it happens a lot and you are nervous about the results, or your restore needs to run a long time unattended, you can disable Windows NTFS 8.3 name creation, run your restore, then re-enable the NTFS 8.3 name creation. (The downside of that is if you have users that for some reason regularly refer to the short 8.3 form of the file name -- again most likely program developers -- they may have some patching to do after the restore.) Here are references that may explain it better and help you determine if this is your problem. The MS article has instructions for turning off 8.3 filename creation: https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21304777 https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC45443 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/121007 -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeannie Bruno Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 10:21 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] restore question Hello. Wondering if anyone else has ever seen this scenario: We had a 2003 windows server that died last week. Got a new 2008 server this week. Did the restore for the 'user' drive for all their data. (Used the TSM gui to do the restore. TSM client version 6.1.2). But during the restore about 4 hours into it, we got the prompt to 'replace the existing file?' message for one of the files that was being restored. Now because this is a brand new server that never had any user data on it, why would we get prompted this message? Before we started the restore, we did not choose any of the restore options for the replacing,etc, because it was a brand new server, i didn't think this was necessary to do. anyone know why this happened?? thanks. Jeannie Bruno Systems Analyst jbr...@cenhud.com 284 South Ave. Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 845-486-5780 This message contains confidential information and is only for the intended recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this note and deleting all copies and attachments. Thank you.
Re: Restore question
I think you'll want to look at GRANT PROXYNODE, using it to grant access to the powered-off node's (say NODE_A) backups to another system that's still online (NODE_B). After running that command on the TSM server, you would login to NODE_B and do dsmc restore -asnode=NODE_A /path/to/file. On 06/15/10 07:01, Avy Wong wrote: Hello, Is it possible to restore a file from the backups of a box that is powered off? The old node is still registered on tivoli, it has not been removed yet and subsequently all its backups. They want the file to be restored into the new box. I appreciate your help. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S048, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: Restore question
You can start dsm or dsmc using the virtualnodename option to run as the powered off node dsmc -virtualnodename=Nodename -password=password -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Avy Wong Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Restore question Hello, Is it possible to restore a file from the backups of a box that is powered off? The old node is still registered on tivoli, it has not been removed yet and subsequently all its backups. They want the file to be restored into the new box. I appreciate your help. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
Re: Restore question
I have found it easier to start a command line or gui session using the 'virtualnodename' parameter. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Skylar Thompson Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:06 AM To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Restore question I think you'll want to look at GRANT PROXYNODE, using it to grant access to the powered-off node's (say NODE_A) backups to another system that's still online (NODE_B). After running that command on the TSM server, you would login to NODE_B and do dsmc restore -asnode=NODE_A /path/to/file. On 06/15/10 07:01, Avy Wong wrote: Hello, Is it possible to restore a file from the backups of a box that is powered off? The old node is still registered on tivoli, it has not been removed yet and subsequently all its backups. They want the file to be restored into the new box. I appreciate your help. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. -- -- Skylar Thompson (skyl...@u.washington.edu) -- Genome Sciences Department, System Administrator -- Foege Building S048, (206)-685-7354 -- University of Washington School of Medicine
Re: Restore question
Thanks Skyler and Doug for your suggestions. I did a grant proxynode, then simply change the nodename in the dsmopt to point to the target node, then I see all the backups of the target node. Thanks both for helping. i.e grant proxynode target=nascluster agent=moe,joe Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 Thorneycroft, Doug dthorneycr...@la To CSD.ORG ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent by: ADSM:cc Dist Stor Manager Subject ads...@vm.marist Re: [ADSM-L] Restore question .EDU 06/15/2010 10:12 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ads...@vm.marist .EDU You can start dsm or dsmc using the virtualnodename option to run as the powered off node dsmc -virtualnodename=Nodename -password=password -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Avy Wong Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:02 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Restore question Hello, Is it possible to restore a file from the backups of a box that is powered off? The old node is still registered on tivoli, it has not been removed yet and subsequently all its backups. They want the file to be restored into the new box. I appreciate your help. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
Re: Restore question
It's a Bad Idea to change your nodename in the options file, as that can have side effects. To perform cross-node operations, follow the instructions provided in the client manual. Richard Sims
Re: Restore question
Just curious Richard, what are the side effects? It is a one time thing and at the time I was working with and IBM with a PMR number, she did give me a document to follow it, but also suggests a quick way to do it is put the nodename to point to the target node on the dsm.opt, of course whatever it was, make sure changing it back. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
Re: Restore question
On Jun 15, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Avy Wong wrote: Just curious Richard, what are the side effects? It is a one time thing and at the time I was working with and IBM with a PMR number, she did give me a document to follow it, but also suggests a quick way to do it is put the nodename to point to the target node on the dsm.opt, of course whatever it was, make sure changing it back. A TSM Support representative should not suggest doing things like that. The effects are summarized in ADSM QuickFacts. Remember that the TSM server tracks the network address used by a client, which at a minimum can obliterate prior record of where on the network a client was. The nodename is also used for storing the access password on the client. Given that all systems these days are multi-user, it's all too easy for some other person on the system to perform a backup while the other nodename is in place, with all the obvious ramifications. Someone trying to retrieve or restore data while the other nodename is in place is going to run into problems. A happenstance backup from a node-appropriated client whose software happened to at a higher level that the original nodename can render storage pool data no longer accessible to the original nodename. This is why VIRTUALNodename is provided. Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs/
Re: Restore question
OK Richard. I will dig deep and learn more about this. Thanks. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976 The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copy of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer.
Re: Restore Question
Andrew Raibeck schrieb: Craig, I recommend you take a look at this flash that went out around end of October last year, to see if it applies: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21322625 Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009 10:36:38 PM: [image removed] Restore Question Craig Ross to: ADSM-L 02/04/2009 10:37 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I have an annoying issue. I have never encountered this before. I have 6 files, three the same, all deactivated. TSM client states the files are this large. Which is correct. tsm q backup -ina D:\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management C entre\Server Team - Unix\password-safe-db\* SizeBackup DateMgmt Class A/I File ----- --- *9,224 * *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak *13,784 * *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak * 9,224* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *13,784* *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *48* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:41 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk *48* *B* 16-01-2009 22:10:24 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk Problem is once the files are restored the files are all either 0 K or 1 KB in size. empty files Restore complete with no error. There are no errors in Act log for the backup run at these times. Has anyone ever seen these behavior before??? Thanks everyone. Craig Unfortunately the only way to find out which objects are affected ist to check the logs to find objects that growed during compression and restore/retrieve them to a different location to see the actual filesize ! And that for all client levels since 5.4.2.0 (rel. March 2008) up to 5.5.1.0 Maybe hard work if you're looking for possible affected objects and an inactive good copy of them. We randomly tested out some growing objects backed up whith different client levels and found NO bad copies. But I'm sure bad copies are out there ... Regards, Otto
Re: Restore Question
Craig, I recommend you take a look at this flash that went out around end of October last year, to see if it applies: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21322625 Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009 10:36:38 PM: [image removed] Restore Question Craig Ross to: ADSM-L 02/04/2009 10:37 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I have an annoying issue. I have never encountered this before. I have 6 files, three the same, all deactivated. TSM client states the files are this large. Which is correct. tsm q backup -ina D:\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management C entre\Server Team - Unix\password-safe-db\* SizeBackup DateMgmt Class A/I File ----- --- *9,224 * *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak *13,784 * *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak * 9,224* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *13,784* *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *48* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:41 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk *48* *B* 16-01-2009 22:10:24 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk Problem is once the files are restored the files are all either 0 K or 1 KB in size. empty files Restore complete with no error. There are no errors in Act log for the backup run at these times. Has anyone ever seen these behavior before??? Thanks everyone. Craig
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Hi Andy, I am currently at home so I cannot 100% confirm my compression settings, but those symptoms read exactly what I am seeing. Andy thanks for the detail. These kind of 'features' really start to hurt customers. Cheers (I think) Andrew Raibeck wrote: Craig, I recommend you take a look at this flash that went out around end of October last year, to see if it applies: http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21322625 Best regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development Level 3 Team Lead Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/i...@ibmus Internet e-mail: stor...@us.ibm.com IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 02/04/2009 10:36:38 PM: [image removed] Restore Question Craig Ross to: ADSM-L 02/04/2009 10:37 PM Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I have an annoying issue. I have never encountered this before. I have 6 files, three the same, all deactivated. TSM client states the files are this large. Which is correct. tsm q backup -ina D:\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management C entre\Server Team - Unix\password-safe-db\* SizeBackup DateMgmt Class A/I File ----- --- *9,224 * *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak *13,784 * *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.ibak * 9,224* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:40 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *13,784* *B* 13-01-2009 21:24:00 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3 *48* *B* 09-01-2009 21:37:41 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk *48* *B* 16-01-2009 22:10:24 DEFAULT I \\blah\d$\data\SHARED\Systems Operating Centre\Systems Management Centre\Server Team - Unix\Password-Safe-DB\prod_unix.psafe3.plk Problem is once the files are restored the files are all either 0 K or 1 KB in size. empty files Restore complete with no error. There are no errors in Act log for the backup run at these times. Has anyone ever seen these behavior before??? Thanks everyone. Craig
Re: Restore question TSM for mail Lotus Domino Window V5.4
The Domino server requests from the DP client the logs that it needs to recover the database to the specified point in time. After each log is restored, the Domino server applies the transactions to the database. If you specify applylogs without a specific point in time, all the archived logs starting from the log that was active at the time of the backup should be restored, and the Domino server should recover the restored database to the current point in time. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 09/05/2007 05:43:30 AM: Here's a breakdown of the problem I'm seeing. Last week, 8/31, we generated enough data for 17 transaction log extent files and were able to successfully execute data restores against those files. Tuesday, 9/4, I generated data for extent files 18 thru 44 and archived those extent files, however, when I do a point in time restore against that data, the Data Protection for Lotus Notes client only applies extent files 2 thru 17. If I do a restore and select 'Apply Logs' on the Activate tab, the client appears to apply transaction logs 2 thru 44 (all of the log files), however, I still am only observing data recovery from the 31st. No data from Tuesday appears to get restored during this operation. So - the question is, how can I get the data from Tuesday restored by applying transaction log extent files generated on that day? The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender and delete or destroy the material/information.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Farren Minns Is there a way to ascertain what tape volumes will be required for a file/dir restore before actually running it? This has been discussed many times; see the mailing list archives. The short answer is no. The workaround is to make all primary pool tapes unavailable and see which tape is called. The problem is that you only find out the first tape needed. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005 IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert (CATE) AIX Berbee Information Networks Office 262.521.5627
Re: restore question
Correction/clarification: TSM mounts each needed tape once and only once A colleague has pointed out that this is not always true. A tape may be mounted more than once if it contains portions of a file where the beginning of the file is on another tape. For example, lets say that we have several files that span across more than one tape: FILEA begins on TAPE01 and continues on TAPE20 FILEB begins on TAPE02 and continues on TAPE20 FILEC begins on TAPE03 and continues on TAPE20 If FILEA, FILEB, and FILEC are restored, then TAPE20 will be mounted 3 times, like this: - Restore FILEA: mount TAPE01 then TAPE20 - Restore FILEB: mount TAPE02 then TAPE20 - Restore FILEC: mount TAPE03 then TAPE20 So while TSM does indeed work to minimize tape mounts, it is possible for a tape to be mounted more than once. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/2003 05:54 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: restore question No query restore has nothing to do with minimizing tape mounts for restore. For a given restore, TSM mounts each needed tape once and only once, and reads it from front to back. The most visible benefit of no query restore is that data starts coming back from the server sooner than it does with classic restore. With classic restore, the client queries the server for all objects that match the restore file specification. The server sends this information to the client, then the client sorts it so that tape mounts will be optimized. However, the time involved in getting the information from the server, then sorting it (before any data is actually restored), can be quite lengthy. No query restore lets the TSM server do the work: the client sends the restore file specification to the server, the server figures out the optimal tape mount order, and then starts sending the restored data to the client. The server can do this faster, and thus the time it takes to start actually restoring data is reduced. In either case, for a given restore, TSM will restore the files and directories in a manner that optimizes tape mounts. If it so happens that a file is restored before it's parent directory is restored, then the client will create the parent directory, restore the file, then restore the parent directory when it encounters it in the restore sequence. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Karel Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/2003 00:02 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: restore question Hi, Depends (love that statement) on the type of restore. If you have a no-query restore, the tsm server will restore the data in a as few mounts as possible way, if you have a query restore the client will ask the tsm server for a object (being file or directory), so the TSM server can not do its thing to minimize the number of tapemounts. From the read.me: No query restore When you enter an unrestricted wildcard source file specification on the restore command and do not specify any of the options: inactive, latest, pick, fromdate, or todate, the client uses a different method for retrieving files and directories from the server. This method is called no query restore because instead of querying the server for each object to be restored, a single restore request is sent to the server. In this case, the server returns the files and directories to the client without further action by the client. The client merely accepts the data coming from the server and restores it to the destination named on the restore command Regard, Karel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: i love tsm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 19 augustus 2003 21:02 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: restore question Hi all A basic question... tapes are non collocated if you kick off a restore of multiple directories on a win2k client will TSM mount a tape and get all the data off that tape for the directories concerned then move on to the next volume, or does it restore sequentially one directory at a time, i.e it could mount the same tape numerous times as it goes through thr directories. Many Thanks
Re: restore question
Hi, Depends (love that statement) on the type of restore. If you have a no-query restore, the tsm server will restore the data in a as few mounts as possible way, if you have a query restore the client will ask the tsm server for a object (being file or directory), so the TSM server can not do its thing to minimize the number of tapemounts. From the read.me: No query restore When you enter an unrestricted wildcard source file specification on the restore command and do not specify any of the options: inactive, latest, pick, fromdate, or todate, the client uses a different method for retrieving files and directories from the server. This method is called no query restore because instead of querying the server for each object to be restored, a single restore request is sent to the server. In this case, the server returns the files and directories to the client without further action by the client. The client merely accepts the data coming from the server and restores it to the destination named on the restore command Regard, Karel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: i love tsm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 19 augustus 2003 21:02 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: restore question Hi all A basic question... tapes are non collocated if you kick off a restore of multiple directories on a win2k client will TSM mount a tape and get all the data off that tape for the directories concerned then move on to the next volume, or does it restore sequentially one directory at a time, i.e it could mount the same tape numerous times as it goes through thr directories. Many Thanks _ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband
Re: restore question
No query restore has nothing to do with minimizing tape mounts for restore. For a given restore, TSM mounts each needed tape once and only once, and reads it from front to back. The most visible benefit of no query restore is that data starts coming back from the server sooner than it does with classic restore. With classic restore, the client queries the server for all objects that match the restore file specification. The server sends this information to the client, then the client sorts it so that tape mounts will be optimized. However, the time involved in getting the information from the server, then sorting it (before any data is actually restored), can be quite lengthy. No query restore lets the TSM server do the work: the client sends the restore file specification to the server, the server figures out the optimal tape mount order, and then starts sending the restored data to the client. The server can do this faster, and thus the time it takes to start actually restoring data is reduced. In either case, for a given restore, TSM will restore the files and directories in a manner that optimizes tape mounts. If it so happens that a file is restored before it's parent directory is restored, then the client will create the parent directory, restore the file, then restore the parent directory when it encounters it in the restore sequence. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Karel Bos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20/2003 00:02 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: restore question Hi, Depends (love that statement) on the type of restore. If you have a no-query restore, the tsm server will restore the data in a as few mounts as possible way, if you have a query restore the client will ask the tsm server for a object (being file or directory), so the TSM server can not do its thing to minimize the number of tapemounts. From the read.me: No query restore When you enter an unrestricted wildcard source file specification on the restore command and do not specify any of the options: inactive, latest, pick, fromdate, or todate, the client uses a different method for retrieving files and directories from the server. This method is called no query restore because instead of querying the server for each object to be restored, a single restore request is sent to the server. In this case, the server returns the files and directories to the client without further action by the client. The client merely accepts the data coming from the server and restores it to the destination named on the restore command Regard, Karel -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: i love tsm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 19 augustus 2003 21:02 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: restore question Hi all A basic question... tapes are non collocated if you kick off a restore of multiple directories on a win2k client will TSM mount a tape and get all the data off that tape for the directories concerned then move on to the next volume, or does it restore sequentially one directory at a time, i.e it could mount the same tape numerous times as it goes through thr directories. Many Thanks _ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband
Re: restore question - NTFS time stamp?
There is nothing particularly tricky about it. During the backup, we save the timestamp information. During the restore, we create the directory, then put the timestamp information back using Windows API function SetFileTime(). I use PKZIP 2.52 (command line) and the -times=all option will preserve the timestamps, i.e.: pkzip25 -ext -dir -times=all myfile.zip Check the help info for your zip utility to see if it has a similar option. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Alexander Lazarevich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/18/2003 06:40 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:restore question - NTFS time stamp? I've got a TSM related question, but the question is really about NTFS time stamps (creation date) for folders. The reason I'm asking this newsgroup is because the only product out there that has the capability I'm looking for is TSM. What I need to be able to do is move/copy files and folders in an NTFS filesystem, and preserve the time stamp. I've tried many things: copy, xcopy, cygwin, winzip, pkzip, they all suffer from the same problem, namely, that FOLDERS that are copied/moved/unzipped with these tools do NOT preserve the original time stamp. I've asked newsgroups and gotten no answers. I've even tried contacting 3rd party software vendors to see if their windows/unix tools can do it, but they all tell me that it CAN'T be done. But that is bull, because TSM does it!!! TSM will restore files and folders, and all the time stamps (creation dates) on the folders and files are the original ones. How does TSM do that? Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Alex --- --- Alex Lazarevich | Systems Administrator | Imaging Technology Group Beckman Institute - University of Illinois [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (217)244-1565 | www.itg.uiuc.edu --- ---
Re: Restore Question??
You can get that result if you are not root. I have also had similar problems if my AIX session was running low on available colors - if you have Netscape open, try closing it to free more X screen resources. -Original Message- From: Blaine Gilbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Restore Question?? I am trying to do a restore on an AIX 4.3.3 server. When I open a dsm graphical session and try to view the files that are available for restore I can only see the directory structure. When I query my file space in ADSM I see that I have 275 GB worth of data on the particular file space that I am looking at. Am I just way off in left field or am I going crazy. Regards, Blaine
