Re: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread Reinhard Mersch

Hi,

contrary to the other responses you got so far, I would think that
1.5 GB log size should be big enough for a 13.5 GB DB if you are doing
daily DB backups. (Ours is 0.8 GB , Db size ist 38 GB.)

Was EXPIRE INVENTORY running when the server crashed?

Perhaps you had the same problem as we had last weekend: Our recovery
log went full (but did not crash the server). The reason: Due to the
Daylight Savings Time (DST) error in the Windows TSM client, many of our
Windows clients did full backups after the DST switch. So, many backup
copies became inactive and were expired through the EXPIRE INVENTORY run
last weekend, causing an unusually big amount of change activity against
the DB, which all had to be buffered in the recovery log during DB
backup.

Reinhard


Wood, Dwight - BSC writes:
 > My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
 > recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
 > impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
 > while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
 > DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
 > showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
 > the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
 > -Dwight

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Re: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread Kelly J. Lipp

Lots of uncommitted transactions.  I've seen this before on logs around a
gig in size.  You wouldn't think the works would/could get that far behind,
but with large transaction loads it happens.

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Subject: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode


My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
-Dwight



Re: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread Palmadesso Jack

You may want to expand the size of your recovery log.  That would at least
reduce the chances of crashing due to a full recovery log.

The logs will usually fill up if you have alot of sessions going at once.
Or especially if you use the Lotus Notes 4.6 agent.  Its my understanding
that some data just cannot be committed to the ADSM Db until the client lets
go of it.  In my experience this is not a problem with regular clients but
with ADSM agents this can be a problem.  If you have been experiencing some
growth then you will have to expand the DB and Logs eventually.  Just
remember the max size of the ADSM recovery log is 5.5 gigs.  I wouldn't
expand past 5 gigs to be safe.

Jack

-Original Message-
From: Wood, Dwight - BSC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode


My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
-Dwight



Re: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread John Naylor

Well,
You have 2 possibles either :-
1) Your log is not big enough for you workload. Do you monitor/trend its max
utilization
2) You have a rogue session or process that caused the problem.
If you still have the ADSM log from before the crash, can you see what was going
on





Lawrence Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12/06/2000 04:07:25 PM

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It fills until the db reaches a 'sync' point. Something like a number of clients
backing up concurrently but not as yet completed can fill up the log file.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/00 10:49AM >>>
My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
-Dwight






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Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread Wood, Dwight - BSC

My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
-Dwight



Re: Recovery Log Problems while in Normal Mode

2000-12-06 Thread Lawrence Clark

It fills until the db reaches a 'sync' point. Something like a number of clients 
backing up concurrently but not as yet completed can fill up the log file.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/06/00 10:49AM >>>
My recovery log filled up and crashed the server this morning. I have the
recovery log in "Normal" mode - NOT "Roll Forward" mode. I was under the
impression that the recovery log would not fill up and crash the system
while in normal mode. The log is 1.5 GB and the DB is 13.5 GB. We do a full
DB backup once a day, sometimes twice. When I restarted the server the log
showed up as 0.1% utilized. Does anyone have any idea as to what might cause
the log to fill up? I am running TSM 3.7.3 on Solaris. Thanks,
-Dwight