Re: Seeking 3.7.5 -> 5.1 upgrade advice..

2002-11-12 Thread Sias Dealy
TSM'er

I agree with Wanda. Stick with plan A.

When migrating from TSM 3.7.X to 5.1.X, the data base should be
upgrade during the migration. When you try to start the dsmserv
process and you recieve an error message complaining about the
database, then issue the "dsmserv upgradedb" command.
You can be kind of pro-active, you can issue "dsmserv
upgradedb" and then start the dsmserv process. I have not
experience any problems issuing "dsmserv upgradedb" when the
data base is already upgraded. Unless I am one of the semi-
lucky one.

When I migrated from 3.7 to 4.2, one server the database got
upgrade but for some restange reason another server I had to
issue the "dsmserv upgradedb" commmand after there was a
message complaining about the database.

A good hint, before you start the upgrade.
Make sure that you have a current backup of the TSM server,
backup the volhist, and the devconfig. I would also backup the
dsmserv.opt file, if you would have to start from scratch you
would not have to try to remember what was set in the
dsmserv.opt file.

Speaking about Tivoli support, in the US. Have anyone call
Tivoli support since June 2002? There was an e-mail or a notice
that due to the call volume that they are experiencing that the
tech's are  calling the customer back. Basicly, you've got some
waiting time.


Sais



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 On, Prather, Wanda ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Restoring an old data base (3.7.5) to a new level of the
server (5.1) SHOULD
> work but it isn't guaranteed.
> That is, Tivoli doesn't test that process, and if it doesn't
work, they
> probably won't fix it.  And you will be going up SEVERAL
levels of code.  So
> unless you can find someone else who has done it going from
3.7 to 5.1, on
> Solaris, I recommend you stick with plan A, and upgrade in
place.  If you
> have problems with that, Tivoli support will be able to help
you.
>
> Then you can move the DB to your new server.
>
>



Re: Seeking 3.7.5 -> 5.1 upgrade advice..

2002-11-12 Thread Thomas Denier
>I would really appreciate some advice on how to proceed with an
> upgrade we are planning.
>
> Currently, we are running TSM version 3.7.5 on an Ultra 10/Solaris 7
>
> Our plans are to upgrade to 5.1.x on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2/Solaris 8.
>
> I am currently trying to figure out if it would be easier to upgrade the
> current 3.7.5 server to 5.1 which will automatically convert everything
> to 5.1 and then move the newly converted database and other needed files
> to the new server which would have 5.1 already installed and running on
> it.
>
> Or, would it be easier to restore the 3.7.5 database from tape to the
> newly configured 5.1 server and run an UPGRADEDB command to bring the
> database up to the current level?
>
> If the second path is the best, does the database have to have the same
> physical path on the disk as the first server?

No, as long as the aggregate size of the installed database volumes on
the new system is sufficient.

> And are the registered nodes, users, volumes and automated commands
> stored in a file which can be easily transferred to the new machine?

Registered nodes and administrative users are stored in the TSM database.
Information on volumes is also stored in the database. However, a TSM
server can and should be configured to save some of the volume information
to one or more flat files whenever the information is updated. Copying
the flat file involved to the new system will make the database restore
much easier. The path to the flat file is given in the server options
file. A similar situation prevails for device definitions. However, you
will probably not be able to simply copy the flat file of device
definitions to the new system; you will probably need to edit the file
to reflect the configuration differences between the two systems.
Automated commands may or may not be in the database, depending on
the exact mechanism used. Scripts and administrative schedules are in
the database, but macros are not. After the database restore is done
you may need to do some clean-up. If the disk storage pool volumes are
different you will need to delete the old ones and define the new ones.
If tape libraries and drives are different you will need to update
the library and drive definitions.

You should probably look at the discussion of server disaster recovery
in the "Administrator's Guide". Server disaster recovery is essentially
an urgent migration to new hardware.



Re: Seeking 3.7.5 -> 5.1 upgrade advice..

2002-11-12 Thread Prather, Wanda
Restoring an old data base (3.7.5) to a new level of the server (5.1) SHOULD
work but it isn't guaranteed.
That is, Tivoli doesn't test that process, and if it doesn't work, they
probably won't fix it.  And you will be going up SEVERAL levels of code.  So
unless you can find someone else who has done it going from 3.7 to 5.1, on
Solaris, I recommend you stick with plan A, and upgrade in place.  If you
have problems with that, Tivoli support will be able to help you.

Then you can move the DB to your new server.


-Original Message-
From: John N. Stacey Jr [mailto:john.stacey@;EURORSCG.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Seeking 3.7.5 -> 5.1 upgrade advice..


Hello,

   I would really appreciate some advice on how to proceed with an
upgrade we are planning.



Currently, we are running TSM version 3.7.5 on an Ultra 10/Solaris 7



Our plans are to upgrade to 5.1.x on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2/Solaris 8.



I am currently trying to figure out if it would be easier to upgrade the
current 3.7.5 server to 5.1 which will automatically convert everything
to 5.1 and then move the newly converted database and other needed files
to the new server which would have 5.1 already installed and running on
it.



Or, would it be easier to restore the 3.7.5 database from tape to the
newly configured 5.1 server and run an UPGRADEDB command to bring the
database up to the current level?



If the second path is the best, does the database have to have the same
physical path on the disk as the first server?



And are the registered nodes, users, volumes and automated commands
stored in a file which can be easily transferred to the new machine?



Thank you for any help you can give.



-john

_

John N. Stacey Jr. * Information Technology

Euro RSCG MVBMS Partners

* 350 Hudson St. * New York, NY 10014

Ph. 212.886.4369 * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Seeking 3.7.5 -> 5.1 upgrade advice..

2002-11-12 Thread John N. Stacey Jr
Hello,

   I would really appreciate some advice on how to proceed with an
upgrade we are planning.



Currently, we are running TSM version 3.7.5 on an Ultra 10/Solaris 7



Our plans are to upgrade to 5.1.x on a Sun Ultra Enterprise 2/Solaris 8.



I am currently trying to figure out if it would be easier to upgrade the
current 3.7.5 server to 5.1 which will automatically convert everything
to 5.1 and then move the newly converted database and other needed files
to the new server which would have 5.1 already installed and running on
it.



Or, would it be easier to restore the 3.7.5 database from tape to the
newly configured 5.1 server and run an UPGRADEDB command to bring the
database up to the current level?



If the second path is the best, does the database have to have the same
physical path on the disk as the first server?



And are the registered nodes, users, volumes and automated commands
stored in a file which can be easily transferred to the new machine?



Thank you for any help you can give.



-john

_

John N. Stacey Jr. * Information Technology

Euro RSCG MVBMS Partners

* 350 Hudson St. * New York, NY 10014

Ph. 212.886.4369 * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]