FW: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-24 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
Anyone else care to pitch in an Informix opinion? It would much
appreciated. It is obvious to me that TSM is not the booger here, but
somehow it keeps ending up in my court. Too bad it's not Night Court,
I'd send in Bull Shannon...

-Original Message-
From: Richard Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 6:44 PM
To: Bell, Charles (Chip)
Subject: Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

On Apr 19, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Bell, Charles ((Chip)) wrote:

> What can I gather from this?
>
> START_TIME: 2006-04-19 01:00:53.00
> END_TIME: 2006-04-19 04:27:26.00
> ACTIVITY: BACKUP
>   NUMBER: 1917621
>   ENTITY: INFORMIX_PHAR
> COMMMETH: Tcp/Ip
>  ADDRESS: 10.10.154.19:54898
>SCHEDULE_NAME: PHAR_INFORMIX_NIGHTLY
> EXAMINED: 0
> AFFECTED: 1
>   FAILED: 0
>BYTES: 18896547851
> IDLE: 0
>   MEDIAW: 0
>PROCESSES: 1
>   SUCCESSFUL: YES
>  VOLUME_NAME:
>   DRIVE_NAME:
> LIBRARY_NAME:
> LAST_USE:
>COMM_WAIT: 12352
> NUM_OFFSITE_VOLS:

Chip - That's a whopping communications wait...

where the server spent waiting 3.4 hours for the client to speak.
This is making me suspect that the Informix side of the middleware  
involved in the backup is blocked by Informix, possibly due to a held  
lock in the Informix database or the like. You may want to use some  
combination of lsof and truss commands to see what's going on there.  
I'm disappointed that no Informix customers have chimed in, as they  
have expertise in that area, where I've had no experience.

Richard

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Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-19 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
It happened again this morning, but this time one day earlier. No
shortcoming from the TSM server side. Why do I get all of the goofy
stuff?  :^)

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Richard Sims
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:34 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

Chip -

This is a case where the server records need to be examined. Look in
the TSM server Activity Log for what's happening during that period,
and review the TSM accounting records for the recorded wait time
values. If need be, perform Query SEssion during the backups to see
what clients may be waiting on (drives, volumes, etc.).

Just looking at the client side of things gives you only half the story.

   Richard Sims

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Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-18 Thread Richard Sims

Chip -

This is a case where the server records need to be examined. Look in
the TSM server Activity Log for what's happening during that period,
and review the TSM accounting records for the recorded wait time
values. If need be, perform Query SEssion during the backups to see
what clients may be waiting on (drives, volumes, etc.).

Just looking at the client side of things gives you only half the story.

  Richard Sims


Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-18 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
364 Completed backup logical log 10863.
 2006-04-12 00:57:10 16888  18364 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 01:22:44 34224  19658 Completed level 0 backup test_dbs.
 2006-04-12 01:22:47 34224  19658 Process 34224  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 Begin backup logical log 10864.
 2006-04-12 02:19:50 34250  23246 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 02:19:56 34250  23246 Completed backup logical log 10864.
 2006-04-12 02:19:56 34250  23246 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 04:11:26 21288  19658 Completed level 0 backup prod_dbs.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 21288  19658 Process 21288  19658 completed.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 19658  34038 Begin backup logical log 10865.
 2006-04-12 04:11:27 19658  34038 Successfully connected to Storage
Manager.
 2006-04-12 04:11:28 19194  11898 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d -l
 2006-04-12 04:11:29 19194  11898 WARNING: A log backup is already
running. Can'
t start another.
 2006-04-12 04:11:32 19658  34038 Completed backup logical log 10865.
 2006-04-12 04:11:32 19658  34038 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 0 (0x
00)
 2006-04-12 04:11:34 19194  11898 /digi/informix/bin/onbar_d: process
exit 152 (
0x98)



-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Alexander Verkooijen
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:34 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

I do not claim to have any knowledge of Informix
but the behaviour you describe suggests that
you use a backup schema of a full backup every
8 days and incrementals/differentials on the
other 7 days.

Just guessing...

Regards,

Alexander


Alexander Verkooijen
Senior Systems Programmer
High Performance Computing
SARA Computing & Networking Services
 

> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Bell, Charles (Chip)
> Sent: maandag 17 april 2006 16:45
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?
> 
> Client OS AIX 4.3.3
> 
> Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.31.UD4
> 
> TDP for Informix v4.1.3 TSM v5.1.5
> 
>  
> 
> Why would the client back up in a way that is considered normal (45
> mins. to 1 hr), but every 8th day take well over 3 hrs? Has 
> anyone seen
> this happen every 'x'th day at their site?
> 
>  
> 
> God bless you!!! 
> 
> Chip Bell 
> Network Engineer I
> IBM Tivoli Certified Deployment Professional (ITSM 5.2)
> Baptist Health System 
> Birmingham, AL 
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Re: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-18 Thread Alexander Verkooijen
I do not claim to have any knowledge of Informix
but the behaviour you describe suggests that
you use a backup schema of a full backup every
8 days and incrementals/differentials on the
other 7 days.

Just guessing...

Regards,

Alexander


Alexander Verkooijen
Senior Systems Programmer
High Performance Computing
SARA Computing & Networking Services
 

> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Behalf Of Bell, Charles (Chip)
> Sent: maandag 17 april 2006 16:45
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Slow Informix backups every 8 days?
> 
> Client OS AIX 4.3.3
> 
> Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.31.UD4
> 
> TDP for Informix v4.1.3 TSM v5.1.5
> 
>  
> 
> Why would the client back up in a way that is considered normal (45
> mins. to 1 hr), but every 8th day take well over 3 hrs? Has 
> anyone seen
> this happen every 'x'th day at their site?
> 
>  
> 
> God bless you!!! 
> 
> Chip Bell 
> Network Engineer I
> IBM Tivoli Certified Deployment Professional (ITSM 5.2)
> Baptist Health System 
> Birmingham, AL 
> Office (205) 715-5106 
> Pager (205) 817-0357 
> Home (256) 739-0947 
> 
>  
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Slow Informix backups every 8 days?

2006-04-17 Thread Bell, Charles (Chip)
Client OS AIX 4.3.3

Informix Dynamic Server Version 7.31.UD4

TDP for Informix v4.1.3 TSM v5.1.5

 

Why would the client back up in a way that is considered normal (45
mins. to 1 hr), but every 8th day take well over 3 hrs? Has anyone seen
this happen every 'x'th day at their site?

 

God bless you!!! 

Chip Bell 
Network Engineer I
IBM Tivoli Certified Deployment Professional (ITSM 5.2)
Baptist Health System 
Birmingham, AL 
Office (205) 715-5106 
Pager (205) 817-0357 
Home (256) 739-0947 

 




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