Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-14 Thread Bruce Lowrie 

All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.  IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations.
Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-14 Thread Seay, Paul 

We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.  IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM 

Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name). So if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed up.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.  IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Sparrman 

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM, so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN. We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN
translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Bergkällavägen 31D
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Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name). So
if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed
up.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.  IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Adolph Kahan 

I thought that IBM oem'd the EMULEX cards.

-Original Message-
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Daniel Sparrman
Sent: February 15, 2002 7:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM,
so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN.
We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you
will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN
translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51


 

"Loon, E.J.

van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Subject: Re: Sun Solaris
and Qlogic QLA2202FS 
Sent by: (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

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2002-02-15

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Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name).
So
if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed
up.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used
for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI
card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you
may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in
performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.
IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex
LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available
in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Dylan Ryback 

I don't know how/if this will be an issue for you, but we bought the OEM
version of the Qlogic QLA2202F PCI card for use with an A5000 disk array.
We did this because the Sun-branded version of the card was about 3x as
expensive.  We later found out that you can not bind the native Sun Solaris
fibre channel drivers to the card and had to use the ones supplied by
Qlogic.  What this meant was that we had to define the SCSI targets in the
sd.conf file in order for the server to see the disks and it saw them as
just that, SCSI devices.  The downside was that since we had to use the
Qlogic drivers, the OS would not recognize the array as being a SENA, and
hence none of the tools that one would use to manage the array (e.g.,
luxadm) would work with it.  The fcode loaded on the Sun-branded PCI version
of the 2202F is different than the fcode loaded on the OEM versions of the
card, which is why the Sun SUNWqlc drivers wouldn't bind to the OEM version
(at least on Solaris 7).

If this even remotely sounds like it could be an issue, research the card
you are getting very thoroughly (if it's not Sun-branded) and see if there
are any patches/bug fixes on SunSolve.

HTH,
Dylan

- Original Message -
From: "Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.  IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Daniel Sparrman 

Hi

It differs... Also, if you visit the 3584 site, you can see that the Qlogic
2200 adapter is certified to be used with the 3584. This means no problems
when doing SCSI >> WWN translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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I thought that IBM oem'd the EMULEX cards.

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Daniel Sparrman
Sent: February 15, 2002 7:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM,
so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN.
We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you
will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN
translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51




"Loon, E.J.

van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Subject: Re: Sun Solaris
and Qlogic QLA2202FS
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Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name).
So
if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed
up.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used
for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI
card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you
may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in
performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would lik

Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Joshua S. Bassi 

I thought the:

IBM 6227 was the Emulex 7000
and the
IBM 6228 was the Emulex 8000


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Daniel Sparrman
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM,
so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN.
We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you
will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN
translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51


 

"Loon, E.J.

van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Subject: Re: Sun Solaris
and Qlogic QLA2202FS 
Sent by: (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

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Stor Manager"

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RIST.EDU>

 

 

2002-02-15

12:59

Please

respond to

"ADSM: Dist

Stor Manager"

 

 





Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name).
So
if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed
up.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used
for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI
card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you
may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in
performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A.
IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex
LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available
in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Voice: (989) 496-6404
7 Fax: (989) 496-6437
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Seay, Paul 

You are correct about the brand.  They are Emulex.  I have put the cards in
before and they are Emulex. Trust me.  Just like the ones in the Shark.

What is not correct here is the LP8000 is not the 6228.  I actually think
that is the 6227.  The 6228 has an LC connector on it and is 2Gbit.  I think
it is the LP9000.  You have to order the 6228 with the jumper to convert to
SC connectors if you need that.

-Original Message-
From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


I thought the:

IBM 6227 was the Emulex 7000
and the
IBM 6228 was the Emulex 8000


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

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Daniel Sparrman
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM, so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN. We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
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and Qlogic QLA2202FS 
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Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name). So if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed up.
Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A. IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
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Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-15 Thread Seay, Paul 

I did not completely answer the first question.  The dual ported cards do
not perform as well as the single ported cards either.  We discussed this
with SUN when we decided to go with the PCI single ported SUN provided
Qlogic cards.  Basically, the chip that is on the card can really only
support about 1.5 equivalents of FC throughput.  The dual ported cards are
for failover to a different switch and connectivity and when you are short
on slots.  In no way should they be considered a replacement for dual access
to a LUN versus two separate cards on different IO boards (in SUN).  If the
card fails both paths are gone.

Again, this is a performance issue.  Solaris just like other FC attached
machines will scream if you put the PCI stuff in.

What Eric says, depends.  Yes, you can not do persistent binding of WWPN/LUN
to a controller/scsi device so that each LUN is presented to the system with
the same SCSI id.  A SUN machine walks the bus.  So, it really depends on
the device.  If each LUN/drive is a different WWPN then you have the
problem.  But, if it is like an IBM Shark where each LUN is presented with
the same SCSI id and a consistent WWPN, then you do not have the problem.
As I say, it depends.  I only have experience with photons and IBM Shark and
am speaking from that point of view.

-Original Message-
From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


I thought the:

IBM 6227 was the Emulex 7000
and the
IBM 6228 was the Emulex 8000


--
Joshua S. Bassi
Sr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.com
IBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, Shark
Tivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSM
Cell (415) 215-0326

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Daniel Sparrman
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

Hi

Perhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM, so
if you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.

And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN. We've
got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you will
get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN translation.

Best Regards

Daniel Sparrman
---
Daniel Sparrman
Exist i Stockholm AB
Bergkällavägen 31D
192 79 SOLLENTUNA
Växel: 08 - 754 98 00
Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51


 

"Loon, E.J.

van - SPLXM" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Subject: Re: Sun Solaris
and Qlogic QLA2202FS 
Sent by: (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

"ADSM: Dist

Stor Manager"

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RIST.EDU>

 

 

2002-02-15

12:59

Please

respond to

"ADSM: Dist

Stor Manager"

 

 





Hi all!
I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI address
assignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI address
assignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name). So if
another FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed up.
Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-Original Message-
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


We use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine why
there would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used for
both.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card
(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you may
not have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performance
when you start running both FC disk and tape.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA


All,
Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to use
Qlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A. IBM's
website only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000S
cards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available in
dual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?

Bruce E. Lowrie
Sr. Systems Analyst
Information Technology Services
Storage, Output, Legacy
*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Voice: (989) 496-6404
7 Fax: (989) 496-6437
*Pos

Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-02-16 Thread Daniel Sparrman 
HiThe Qlogic adapter is not and IBM RS/6000 oem, it's a X-series(PC) oem.The 6227 is a LP7000, and the 6228 is a LP9000. The LP8000 is not oem:ed by IBM yet. I know this because I have tried implementing the LP8000 on a P-Series 610. When running CFGMGR, AIX asks for a driver called devices.pci.fc.df1000f8. This driver doesn't exist for AIX, only df1000f7 and df1000f9(LP7000 and LP9000).However, BULL has a driver for AIX wich supports the LP8000.Best RegardsDaniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkällavägen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVäxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 "Seay, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>2002-02-15 20:50 ESTPlease respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:  bcc:  Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA You are correct about the brand.  They are Emulex.  I have put the cards inbefore and they are Emulex. Trust me.  Just like the ones in the Shark.What is not correct here is the LP8000 is not the 6228.  I actually thinkthat is the 6227.  The 6228 has an LC connector on it and is 2Gbit.  I thinkit is the LP9000.  You have to order the 6228 with the jumper to convert toSC connectors if you need that.-Original Message-From: Joshua S. Bassi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:17 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIAI thought the:IBM 6227 was the Emulex 7000and theIBM 6228 was the Emulex 8000--Joshua S. BassiSr. Solutions Architect @ rs-unix.comIBM Certified - AIX/HACMP, SAN, SharkTivoli Certified Consultant- ADSM/TSMCell (415) 215-0326-Original Message-From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf OfDaniel SparrmanSent: Friday, February 15, 2002 4:11 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIAHiPerhaps I misunderstood you, but the Qlogic adapters are oem:ed by IBM, soif you buy a IBM FC adapter, this is normally a Qlogic adapter.And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN. We'vegot this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you willget the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN translation.Best RegardsDaniel Sparrman---Daniel SparrmanExist i Stockholm ABBergkällavägen 31D192 79 SOLLENTUNAVäxel: 08 - 754 98 00Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51                    "Loon, E.J.                    van - SPLXM"         To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]                                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]>           Subject:     Re: Sun Solarisand Qlogic QLA2202FS                    Sent by:             (Sbus) and 3590-EIA                    "ADSM: Dist                    Stor Manager"                    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]                    RIST.EDU>                    2002-02-15                    12:59                    Please                    respond to                    "ADSM: Dist                    Stor Manager"Hi all!I believe I heard about an issue with Qlogic adapters and SCSI addressassignments. For Qlogic adapters you cannot define fixed SCSI addressassignment (fixed relation between SCSI LUN's and FC World Wide Name). So ifanother FC device is added to the host, your SCSI assignments are messed up.Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines-Original Message-From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 02:41To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIAWe use the QLA2200F PCI card without any problems.  I cannot imagine whythere would be a problem with this.  I believe the same driver is used forboth.  The real issue is SBUS is going to be MUCH slower than the PCI card(25mhz vs 66mhz).  Yes the IO slot board for PCI is about 10K and you maynot have room for it, but it is really worth the difference in performancewhen you start running both FC disk and tape.-Original Message-From: Bruce Lowrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 2:09 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIAAll,Bringing up a Sun Solaris E6000 as a TSM Server and would like to useQlogic's QLA2202FS Sbus Fibre Channel cards to connect to 3590-E1A. IBM'swebsite only mentions support for QLA2200F (PCI). We can get Emulex LP8000Scards but these are single port whereas the Qlogic cards are available indual port configurations. Has anyone out there been down this road?Bruce E. LowrieSr. Systems AnalystInformation Technology ServicesStorage, Output, Legacy*E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*Voice: (989) 496-64047 Fax: (989) 496-6437*Post: 2200 W. Salzburg Rd.*Post: Mail: CO2111*Post: Midland, MI 48686-0994This e-mail t

Re: Sun Solaris and Qlogic QLA2202FS (Sbus) and 3590-EIA

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Stapleton 

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:11:26 +0100, Daniel Sparrman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And the FC attached 3584 uses SCSI address translation against WWN. We've
>got this running today on AIX, and if you do a lsdev -C|grep rmt, you will
>get the scsi addresses for each drive. Same with the library(/dev/smcX).
>This should mean that the Qlogic adapter can handle SCSI >> WWN
>translation.

I can confirm this in the Windows environment, as well. We have
connected Qlogic 2200F cards to a FAStT500 for customers without a
bobble.

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])