TDP - Client Rename

2003-01-15 Thread Brian L. Nick
Good morning,

 We are currently backing up our NT Lotus Domino environment using TDP and
our e-mail group wants to rename some of the Domino servers. So here are my
questions, can I simply rename the node as defined to TSM and if yes how
does TDP handle the transactional logs for Domino? The way the rename
process was presented to me was that the transaction log will be deleted
and recreated. I'm not a Domino expert but I have concerns regarding the
deletion of the existing transaction logs. We have a process in place for
renaming TSM clients but this is our first TDP for Domino client rename.
Just wondering if anyone has done this and any problems or gotchas that I
should be aware of.

 Any information that you can provide would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
Brian



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Re: TDP - Client Rename

2003-01-15 Thread Marc Lowers
If you rename the node in TSM this will simply force a new full backup to
which subsequent transaction log archives will be associated with.  The
transaction logs from the old backups remain until the databases to which
they are associated expire.  You need to run regular INACTIVATELOGS
commands to expire the older logs.

Marc.





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Good morning,

 We are currently backing up our NT Lotus Domino environment using TDP and
our e-mail group wants to rename some of the Domino servers. So here are
my
questions, can I simply rename the node as defined to TSM and if yes how
does TDP handle the transactional logs for Domino? The way the rename
process was presented to me was that the transaction log will be deleted
and recreated. I'm not a Domino expert but I have concerns regarding the
deletion of the existing transaction logs. We have a process in place for
renaming TSM clients but this is our first TDP for Domino client rename.
Just wondering if anyone has done this and any problems or gotchas that I
should be aware of.

 Any information that you can provide would be appreciated.



Re: TDP - Client Rename

2003-01-15 Thread Del Hoobler
Brian,

If you are renaming the TSM NODENAME and the Domino server name,
all of your old backups (database and log files) will remain
on the TSM server... untouched.

Are you planning to rename the filespaces too?
TDP for Domino filespaces have the Domino Server in the name,
and so, if you do not rename the filespaces, those filespaces
will remain on the TSM server forever and not expire.
If you rename the filespaces to match the Domino server name,
(be careful of the case that you rename the spaces to because
the Domino server name is stored case sensitive on the TSM Server)
then you might be able make this work seemlessly.
I haven't tried it myself... so you may want to try this out
with a test server first.

If you want to make it easy... you could just keep the
old data around by not renaming the filespaces, run a new
full backup of all of your Domino databases, and when
your are far enough into your new renamed server backup cycle,
you could delete the old data from the TSM Server.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
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- Commit yourself to constant improvement.


 If you rename the node in TSM this will simply force a new full backup to
 which subsequent transaction log archives will be associated with.  The
 transaction logs from the old backups remain until the databases to which
 they are associated expire.  You need to run regular INACTIVATELOGS
 commands to expire the older logs.

 Marc.

 Brian L. Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We are currently backing up our NT Lotus Domino environment using TDP
and
 our e-mail group wants to rename some of the Domino servers. So here are
 my
 questions, can I simply rename the node as defined to TSM and if yes how
 does TDP handle the transactional logs for Domino? The way the rename
 process was presented to me was that the transaction log will be deleted
 and recreated. I'm not a Domino expert but I have concerns regarding the
 deletion of the existing transaction logs. We have a process in place
for
 renaming TSM clients but this is our first TDP for Domino client rename.
 Just wondering if anyone has done this and any problems or gotchas that
I
 should be aware of.

  Any information that you can provide would be appreciated.



Re: TDP - Client Rename

2003-01-15 Thread Brian L. Nick
Thanks Del. I was aware of the file space rename and I did consider leaving
the old name there for 45 days  (don't ask), but as you said we will be
testing this before we apply the procedure to any production server. I was
just looking for a head start.

 Thanks again for the information.

 - Brian






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Brian,

If you are renaming the TSM NODENAME and the Domino server name,
all of your old backups (database and log files) will remain
on the TSM server... untouched.

Are you planning to rename the filespaces too?
TDP for Domino filespaces have the Domino Server in the name,
and so, if you do not rename the filespaces, those filespaces
will remain on the TSM server forever and not expire.
If you rename the filespaces to match the Domino server name,
(be careful of the case that you rename the spaces to because
the Domino server name is stored case sensitive on the TSM Server)
then you might be able make this work seemlessly.
I haven't tried it myself... so you may want to try this out
with a test server first.

If you want to make it easy... you could just keep the
old data around by not renaming the filespaces, run a new
full backup of all of your Domino databases, and when
your are far enough into your new renamed server backup cycle,
you could delete the old data from the TSM Server.

Thanks,

Del



Del Hoobler
IBM Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Never cut what can be untied.
- Commit yourself to constant improvement.


 If you rename the node in TSM this will simply force a new full backup to
 which subsequent transaction log archives will be associated with.  The
 transaction logs from the old backups remain until the databases to which
 they are associated expire.  You need to run regular INACTIVATELOGS
 commands to expire the older logs.

 Marc.

 Brian L. Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We are currently backing up our NT Lotus Domino environment using TDP
and
 our e-mail group wants to rename some of the Domino servers. So here are
 my
 questions, can I simply rename the node as defined to TSM and if yes how
 does TDP handle the transactional logs for Domino? The way the rename
 process was presented to me was that the transaction log will be deleted
 and recreated. I'm not a Domino expert but I have concerns regarding the
 deletion of the existing transaction logs. We have a process in place
for
 renaming TSM clients but this is our first TDP for Domino client rename.
 Just wondering if anyone has done this and any problems or gotchas that
I
 should be aware of.

  Any information that you can provide would be appreciated.