Re: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...

2004-02-13 Thread goran
thank you

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From: "Del Hoobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...


Niklas,

Goran is correct. You need to make sure that MAXNUMMP for the
NODENAME you are using for your SQL backups is set to at least
to the number of stripes you are using. Also, turning on
collocation by filespace will ensure that data for different stripes
remains on different tapes so that the restores will also be able to
read from separate tapes at the same time.

>From Chapter 3 of the User's Guide:

- The maxnummp parameter for register or update node must be at least the
  maximum number of stripes to be used for backup or restore when
removable
  media such as tapes are used or if migration occurs during the backup or
restore
  operation. The default value is 1. This value is the maximum number of
mount
  points a node can have at one time. If other backups or restores may
occur at
  the same time, the value of this parameter must be large enough to allow
for all
  of the needed mount points.

- The collocate parameter for define stgpool should be set to "filespace"
to ensure
  that individual data stripes stay on separate removable volumes. The
default
  value is no. Not doing so may require move operations to make the data
for
  each stripe of a restore simultaneously accessible.

There is also a nice IBM KB article (1145253) describing more details. Go
here:
   www.ibm.com

Search for this (include the double quotes in the search window):
   "DP for SQL : Data Striping"

Del



"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/13/2004
04:04:00 AM:

> Hello
>
> I've been running a backup of a SQL server db but I took too long so
> I increased the stripe-parameter to 2 so it would utilize 2 sessions
> and 2 tape drives for the backup. However when the backup starts
> both sessions wants to write to the same volume, leaving one of the
> session in a media-wait state for the whole backup and the backup
> fails after 12h.
>
> 12,064 BPX-T- RecvW0 S   20.5 K  62.6 G Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
> cp/Ip  QL
> 12,066 BPX-T- MediaW 13.0 H   5.2 K   2.5 M Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
> cp/Ip  QL
>
> What can I do to fix this???
>
>
> Regards
> Niklas Lundstrvm
> Swedbank


Re: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...

2004-02-13 Thread Del Hoobler
Niklas,

Goran is correct. You need to make sure that MAXNUMMP for the
NODENAME you are using for your SQL backups is set to at least
to the number of stripes you are using. Also, turning on 
collocation by filespace will ensure that data for different stripes 
remains on different tapes so that the restores will also be able to
read from separate tapes at the same time.

>From Chapter 3 of the User's Guide:

- The maxnummp parameter for register or update node must be at least the
  maximum number of stripes to be used for backup or restore when 
removable
  media such as tapes are used or if migration occurs during the backup or 
restore
  operation. The default value is 1. This value is the maximum number of 
mount
  points a node can have at one time. If other backups or restores may 
occur at
  the same time, the value of this parameter must be large enough to allow 
for all
  of the needed mount points.

- The collocate parameter for define stgpool should be set to "filespace" 
to ensure
  that individual data stripes stay on separate removable volumes. The 
default
  value is no. Not doing so may require move operations to make the data 
for
  each stripe of a restore simultaneously accessible.

There is also a nice IBM KB article (1145253) describing more details. Go 
here:
   www.ibm.com

Search for this (include the double quotes in the search window):
   "DP for SQL : Data Striping"

Del



"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/13/2004 
04:04:00 AM:

> Hello
> 
> I've been running a backup of a SQL server db but I took too long so
> I increased the stripe-parameter to 2 so it would utilize 2 sessions
> and 2 tape drives for the backup. However when the backup starts 
> both sessions wants to write to the same volume, leaving one of the 
> session in a media-wait state for the whole backup and the backup 
> fails after 12h.
> 
> 12,064 BPX-T- RecvW0 S   20.5 K  62.6 G Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
> cp/Ip  QL
> 12,066 BPX-T- MediaW 13.0 H   5.2 K   2.5 M Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
> cp/Ip  QL
> 
> What can I do to fix this???
> 
> 
> Regards
> Niklas Lundström
> Swedbank


SV: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...

2004-02-13 Thread Niklas Lundstrom
Hello

No problems with moutpoints ,and the pool is collocated. Perhaps I should change it to 
collocate by filespace instead. Thats sounds like a solution actually


/Niklas

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if its same node with collocation turned on it might be max mount points value that 
should be increased (im not sure if this is aplicable for SQL
TDP)

goran.


- Original Message -
From: "Niklas Lundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...


Hello

I've been running a backup of a SQL server db but I took too long so I increased the 
stripe-parameter to 2 so it would utilize 2 sessions and 2 tape drives for the backup. 
However when the backup starts both sessions wants to write to the same volume, 
leaving one of the session in a media-wait state for the whole backup and the backup 
fails after 12h.

12,064 BPX-T- RecvW0 S   20.5 K  62.6 G Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL
12,066 BPX-T- MediaW 13.0 H   5.2 K   2.5 M Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL

What can I do to fix this???


Regards
Niklas Lundstrvm
Swedbank


Re: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...

2004-02-13 Thread goran
if its same node with collocation turned on it might be max mount points
value that should be increased (im not sure if this is aplicable for SQL
TDP)

goran.


- Original Message -
From: "Niklas Lundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...


Hello

I've been running a backup of a SQL server db but I took too long so I
increased the stripe-parameter to 2 so it would utilize 2 sessions and 2
tape drives for the backup. However when the backup starts both sessions
wants to write to the same volume, leaving one of the session in a
media-wait state for the whole backup and the backup fails after 12h.

12,064 BPX-T- RecvW0 S   20.5 K  62.6 G Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL
12,066 BPX-T- MediaW 13.0 H   5.2 K   2.5 M Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL

What can I do to fix this???


Regards
Niklas Lundstrvm
Swedbank


TDP SQL sessions wants to write to same tape...

2004-02-13 Thread Niklas Lundstrom
Hello
 
I've been running a backup of a SQL server db but I took too long so I increased the 
stripe-parameter to 2 so it would utilize 2 sessions and 2 tape drives for the backup. 
However when the backup starts both sessions wants to write to the same volume, 
leaving one of the session in a media-wait state for the whole backup and the backup 
fails after 12h.
 
12,064 BPX-T- RecvW0 S   20.5 K  62.6 G Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL
12,066 BPX-T- MediaW 13.0 H   5.2 K   2.5 M Node  TDP MSS- ROBUR22_SQL
cp/Ip  QL
 
What can I do to fix this???
 
 
Regards
Niklas Lundström
Swedbank