Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice!
Hi Ralph, I believe you have 2 options. 1. Restore and re-save to a permanent management class... goto 3 2. remove the tape with the backup on it, protect from overwrite ... goto 3 3. Save the current TSM Database, Volhist, Devconfig and prepare files. (Use NT Backup or something that you can trust to be able to read in the future!!! DVD ROM's are too short lifetime for what you need) (2) You can still get to your data if you set the system date to today (7th June 2004) before you build a restore environment... I have done it!!! (Arrrhhh!!!) It rather depends on whether you expect to ever have to read the data again!!! It will be a pain in (2) but is the least work for now. BTW: Don't forget to record the EXACT Version of Exchange, and TSM, and ALL the SP's/hotfixs.. and have ALL the software media available for the restore in the future... its not going to be available on the web. Record any current passwords before you start - you won't remember them! Also, you need an NT domain controller to re-install Exchange, so make sure that is available to a current point in time too. Maybe an idea to hold onto an old PC or two and an NT install... The current technology won't run NT very well in the future. Feel free to contact me direct if you get stuck. I am serious about the above, although it looks like I am joking (Its a really hard task to protect MS Exchange to this level) It could be worse... I am currently trying to get Exchange back to 2000 from Arcserve 6.0!!! Best Regards Good Luck Tony Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: 07 June 2004 18:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange From: Levi, Ralph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to keep a single backup for legal reasons of our oldest Exchange DB full backup. Does anyone know how I can keep this without changing my existing management class and normal backup retention ? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coats, Jack generate a backupset. keep that. I do not believe you can make a backupset from API-generated backups, such as TDP for Exchange. -- Mark Stapleton This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice!
Hi Tony, Thanks for the response. I think I will try the export server methodology first. It should be simpler but I will use this as my fallback should that not suffice. Thanks for the quick turnaround. Ralph -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan Sent: June 07, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Hi Ralph, I believe you have 2 options. 1. Restore and re-save to a permanent management class... goto 3 2. remove the tape with the backup on it, protect from overwrite ... goto 3 3. Save the current TSM Database, Volhist, Devconfig and prepare files. (Use NT Backup or something that you can trust to be able to read in the future!!! DVD ROM's are too short lifetime for what you need) (2) You can still get to your data if you set the system date to today (7th June 2004) before you build a restore environment... I have done it!!! (Arrrhhh!!!) It rather depends on whether you expect to ever have to read the data again!!! It will be a pain in (2) but is the least work for now. BTW: Don't forget to record the EXACT Version of Exchange, and TSM, and ALL the SP's/hotfixs.. and have ALL the software media available for the restore in the future... its not going to be available on the web. Record any current passwords before you start - you won't remember them! Also, you need an NT domain controller to re-install Exchange, so make sure that is available to a current point in time too. Maybe an idea to hold onto an old PC or two and an NT install... The current technology won't run NT very well in the future. Feel free to contact me direct if you get stuck. I am serious about the above, although it looks like I am joking (Its a really hard task to protect MS Exchange to this level) It could be worse... I am currently trying to get Exchange back to 2000 from Arcserve 6.0!!! Best Regards Good Luck Tony Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: 07 June 2004 18:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange From: Levi, Ralph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to keep a single backup for legal reasons of our oldest Exchange DB full backup. Does anyone know how I can keep this without changing my existing management class and normal backup retention ? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coats, Jack generate a backupset. keep that. I do not believe you can make a backupset from API-generated backups, such as TDP for Exchange. -- Mark Stapleton This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice!
Make sure that the export server works with the Exchange TDP... I don't know, but I imagine it would. Best Of Luck Tony -Original Message- From: Levi, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2004 18:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Hi Tony, Thanks for the response. I think I will try the export server methodology first. It should be simpler but I will use this as my fallback should that not suffice. Thanks for the quick turnaround. Ralph -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan Sent: June 07, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Hi Ralph, I believe you have 2 options. 1. Restore and re-save to a permanent management class... goto 3 2. remove the tape with the backup on it, protect from overwrite ... goto 3 3. Save the current TSM Database, Volhist, Devconfig and prepare files. (Use NT Backup or something that you can trust to be able to read in the future!!! DVD ROM's are too short lifetime for what you need) (2) You can still get to your data if you set the system date to today (7th June 2004) before you build a restore environment... I have done it!!! (Arrrhhh!!!) It rather depends on whether you expect to ever have to read the data again!!! It will be a pain in (2) but is the least work for now. BTW: Don't forget to record the EXACT Version of Exchange, and TSM, and ALL the SP's/hotfixs.. and have ALL the software media available for the restore in the future... its not going to be available on the web. Record any current passwords before you start - you won't remember them! Also, you need an NT domain controller to re-install Exchange, so make sure that is available to a current point in time too. Maybe an idea to hold onto an old PC or two and an NT install... The current technology won't run NT very well in the future. Feel free to contact me direct if you get stuck. I am serious about the above, although it looks like I am joking (Its a really hard task to protect MS Exchange to this level) It could be worse... I am currently trying to get Exchange back to 2000 from Arcserve 6.0!!! Best Regards Good Luck Tony Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: 07 June 2004 18:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange From: Levi, Ralph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to keep a single backup for legal reasons of our oldest Exchange DB full backup. Does anyone know how I can keep this without changing my existing management class and normal backup retention ? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coats, Jack generate a backupset. keep that. I do not believe you can make a backupset from API-generated backups, such as TDP for Exchange. -- Mark Stapleton This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice!
Looks like it will work. I just ran the preview and got results that look reasonable. BTW - To set the record straight in case someone else needs this info, I'm using Export Node . Export Server exports the TSM server info not the client info I am needing. Thanks again, Ralph -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan Sent: June 07, 2004 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Make sure that the export server works with the Exchange TDP... I don't know, but I imagine it would. Best Of Luck Tony -Original Message- From: Levi, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2004 18:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Hi Tony, Thanks for the response. I think I will try the export server methodology first. It should be simpler but I will use this as my fallback should that not suffice. Thanks for the quick turnaround. Ralph -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Morgan Sent: June 07, 2004 1:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange - The answer is not nice! Hi Ralph, I believe you have 2 options. 1. Restore and re-save to a permanent management class... goto 3 2. remove the tape with the backup on it, protect from overwrite ... goto 3 3. Save the current TSM Database, Volhist, Devconfig and prepare files. (Use NT Backup or something that you can trust to be able to read in the future!!! DVD ROM's are too short lifetime for what you need) (2) You can still get to your data if you set the system date to today (7th June 2004) before you build a restore environment... I have done it!!! (Arrrhhh!!!) It rather depends on whether you expect to ever have to read the data again!!! It will be a pain in (2) but is the least work for now. BTW: Don't forget to record the EXACT Version of Exchange, and TSM, and ALL the SP's/hotfixs.. and have ALL the software media available for the restore in the future... its not going to be available on the web. Record any current passwords before you start - you won't remember them! Also, you need an NT domain controller to re-install Exchange, so make sure that is available to a current point in time too. Maybe an idea to hold onto an old PC or two and an NT install... The current technology won't run NT very well in the future. Feel free to contact me direct if you get stuck. I am serious about the above, although it looks like I am joking (Its a really hard task to protect MS Exchange to this level) It could be worse... I am currently trying to get Exchange back to 2000 from Arcserve 6.0!!! Best Regards Good Luck Tony Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stapleton, Mark Sent: 07 June 2004 18:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TDP for Exchange From: Levi, Ralph [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to keep a single backup for legal reasons of our oldest Exchange DB full backup. Does anyone know how I can keep this without changing my existing management class and normal backup retention ? From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coats, Jack generate a backupset. keep that. I do not believe you can make a backupset from API-generated backups, such as TDP for Exchange. -- Mark Stapleton This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it, are confidential and intended solely for the use of the addressee. The content of this e-mail may have been changed without the consent of the originator. The information supplied must be viewed in this context. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify our Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 20-7444-8444. Any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail or its attachments is strictly prohibited.
