Re: TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11
Ok and thanks for your answer Andy. It makes me curious.. Why and when would I use SYSTEM OBJECT in a w2k3 restore with a 5.2 client. It got to be a reason why that possibility still exist? Documentations only mentions restore systemstate/systemservices on w2k3. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=restore+%2bwindowsuid=swg21164812loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en //Henrik Andrew Raibeck To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) BM.COM Subject: Re: TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 2005-01-24 15:21 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The 5.2 (and higher) client uses Microsoft's Volume Snapshot Services (VSS) for backing up Windows 2003 system state and system services, whereas the 5.1 client uses the Microsoft legacy API functions. The two methods are incompatible and cannot be converted between each other. Since the SYSTEM OBJECT file space is still restorable by the 5.2 client, the 5.3 client does not delete that file space. Once you have been running the 5.3 client for a period time, you can delete the old SYSTEM OBJECT file space at your discretion. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 06:43:08: Hi, If I upgrade TSM client on a w2k3 server, 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11. Then I have SYSTEM OBJECT´s in 'q fi'. Compared to a clean install of 5.2.3.11. Why does SYSTEM OBJECT remain? I think SYSTEM OBJECT should be converted or expired... hopefully I´m just missing something here... Any thoughts? TSM server on w2k, 5.2.2.5. Upgraded 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW01SYSTEM OBJECT STO-TW01\\sto-tw01 \c$ STO-TW01SYSTEM STATE STO-TW01SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW01ASR 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW09SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW09SYSTEM STATE STO-TW09ASR
Re: TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11
It makes me curious.. Why and when would I use SYSTEM OBJECT in a w2k3 restore with a 5.2 client. It got to be a reason why that possibility still exist? 1) You install the 5.3 client on Monday. 2) Backup runs Monday night. New SYSTEM STATE and SYSTEM SERVICES file spaces are created. Old SYSTEM OBJECT file space is left intact. 3) You discover some problem that requires you restore back to last Friday -- before you installed the 5.3 client. You will need the 5.2 client to restore the SYSTEM OBJECT. If the 5.3 client upgrade had expired your older 5.2 SYSTEM OBJECT file space, you would be in a difficult situation. This is why I said: Once you have been running the 5.3 client for a period time, you can delete the old SYSTEM OBJECT file space at your discretion. Regads, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/25/2005 03:14:29: Ok and thanks for your answer Andy. It makes me curious.. Why and when would I use SYSTEM OBJECT in a w2k3 restore with a 5.2 client. It got to be a reason why that possibility still exist? Documentations only mentions restore systemstate/systemservices on w2k3. http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=663context=SSGSG7q1=restore+% 2bwindowsuid=swg21164812loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en //Henrik Andrew Raibeck To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) BM.COM Subject: Re: TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 2005-01-24 15:21 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager The 5.2 (and higher) client uses Microsoft's Volume Snapshot Services (VSS) for backing up Windows 2003 system state and system services, whereas the 5.1 client uses the Microsoft legacy API functions. The two methods are incompatible and cannot be converted between each other. Since the SYSTEM OBJECT file space is still restorable by the 5.2 client, the 5.3 client does not delete that file space. Once you have been running the 5.3 client for a period time, you can delete the old SYSTEM OBJECT file space at your discretion. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 06:43:08: Hi, If I upgrade TSM client on a w2k3 server, 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11. Then I have SYSTEM OBJECT´s in 'q fi'. Compared to a clean install of 5.2.3.11. Why does SYSTEM OBJECT remain? I think SYSTEM OBJECT should be converted or expired... hopefully I´m just missing something here... Any thoughts? TSM server on w2k, 5.2.2.5. Upgraded 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW01SYSTEM OBJECT STO-TW01\\sto-tw01 \c$ STO-TW01SYSTEM STATE STO-TW01SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW01ASR 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW09SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW09SYSTEM STATE STO-TW09ASR STO-TW09\\sto-tw09\c$ tia //Henrik --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11
Hi, If I upgrade TSM client on a w2k3 server, 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11. Then I have SYSTEM OBJECT´s in 'q fi'. Compared to a clean install of 5.2.3.11. Why does SYSTEM OBJECT remain? I think SYSTEM OBJECT should be converted or expired... hopefully I´m just missing something here... Any thoughts? TSM server on w2k, 5.2.2.5. Upgraded 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW01SYSTEM OBJECT STO-TW01\\sto-tw01 \c$ STO-TW01SYSTEM STATE STO-TW01SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW01ASR 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW09SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW09SYSTEM STATE STO-TW09ASR STO-TW09\\sto-tw09\c$ tia //Henrik --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: TSM client uppgrade 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11
The 5.2 (and higher) client uses Microsoft's Volume Snapshot Services (VSS) for backing up Windows 2003 system state and system services, whereas the 5.1 client uses the Microsoft legacy API functions. The two methods are incompatible and cannot be converted between each other. Since the SYSTEM OBJECT file space is still restorable by the 5.2 client, the 5.3 client does not delete that file space. Once you have been running the 5.3 client for a period time, you can delete the old SYSTEM OBJECT file space at your discretion. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 06:43:08: Hi, If I upgrade TSM client on a w2k3 server, 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11. Then I have SYSTEM OBJECT´s in 'q fi'. Compared to a clean install of 5.2.3.11. Why does SYSTEM OBJECT remain? I think SYSTEM OBJECT should be converted or expired... hopefully I´m just missing something here... Any thoughts? TSM server on w2k, 5.2.2.5. Upgraded 5.1.7.3 to 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW01SYSTEM OBJECT STO-TW01\\sto-tw01 \c$ STO-TW01SYSTEM STATE STO-TW01SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW01ASR 5.2.3.11, q fi: Node Name Filespace Name --- -- STO-TW09SYSTEM SERVICES STO-TW09SYSTEM STATE STO-TW09ASR STO-TW09\\sto-tw09\c$ tia //Henrik --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
