TSM for SAN in Solaris Zones?
Hello First of all, I am not a Solaris admin or an Oracle DBA and my knowledge about it is limited We plan to use TSM for San and TSM for databases to backup Oracle DB over the SAN. However when the Unix admin saw the requirements for it he said that there might be a problem Apparently we're using sparse local zones to run the Oracle DB. TSM Storage Agent Yes * Supported in global and non-global Whole Root zones * No support for non-global Sparse zones * No support for SAN discovery in non-global Whole Root zones Can you install TSM for SAN in the global zone, and from the local zones use the storage agent in the global zone or is the local zone unaware of the storage agent in the global zone? Or can you install everything in the global zone, and use RMAN to backup all the DB's in the local zones? Any help is appreciated Regards Niklas Lundström Niklas Lundström Storage Administrator Swedbank AB (publ) 105 34 Stockholm Telefon: +46 (0)8 5859 5164 Mobil: +46 (0)70 24 76 345 Vi ber dig lägga märke till att detta e-postmeddelande kan innehålla konfidentiell information. Om du felaktigt blivit mottagare av detta meddelande ber vi dig informera avsändaren om felet genom att använda svara-funktionen. Vi ber dig också att radera e-postmeddelandet utan att skicka det vidare eller kopiera det. Trots att vi intygar att e-postmeddelandet och eventuella bilagor inte innehåller virus och andra fel som kan påverka datorn eller IT-systemet där det mottages och läses, öppnas det på mottagarens eget ansvar. Vi tar inte på oss något ansvar för förlust eller skada, som har uppstått i samband med att e-postmeddelandet mottagits och använts. _ Please note that this message may contain confidential information. If you have received this message by mistake, please inform the sender of the mistake by sending a reply, then delete the message from your system without making, distributing or retaining any copies of it. Although we believe that the message and any attachment are free from viruses and other errors that might affect the computer or IT system where it is received and read, the recipient opens the message at his or her own risk. We assume no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this message.
SV: TSM for SAN in Solaris Zones?
Hi Niklas, What you can do is to install a SAN Agent as a Proxy Server that transport the data LANFree. Have setup a couple of them on another Swedish SUN Enterprise customer. :) Best Regards Christian Svensson Cell: +46-70-325 1577 E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se Skype: cristie.christian.svensson Supported Platform for CPU2TSM:: http://www.cristie.se/cpu2tsm-supported-platforms Från: Niklas Lundström [niklas.lundst...@swedbank.se] Skickat: den 15 oktober 2010 14:08 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM for SAN in Solaris Zones? Hello First of all, I am not a Solaris admin or an Oracle DBA and my knowledge about it is limited We plan to use TSM for San and TSM for databases to backup Oracle DB over the SAN. However when the Unix admin saw the requirements for it he said that there might be a problem Apparently we're using sparse local zones to run the Oracle DB. TSM Storage Agent Yes * Supported in global and non-global Whole Root zones * No support for non-global Sparse zones * No support for SAN discovery in non-global Whole Root zones Can you install TSM for SAN in the global zone, and from the local zones use the storage agent in the global zone or is the local zone unaware of the storage agent in the global zone? Or can you install everything in the global zone, and use RMAN to backup all the DB's in the local zones? Any help is appreciated Regards Niklas Lundström Niklas Lundström Storage Administrator Swedbank AB (publ) 105 34 Stockholm Telefon: +46 (0)8 5859 5164 Mobil: +46 (0)70 24 76 345 Vi ber dig lägga märke till att detta e-postmeddelande kan innehålla konfidentiell information. Om du felaktigt blivit mottagare av detta meddelande ber vi dig informera avsändaren om felet genom att använda svara-funktionen. Vi ber dig också att radera e-postmeddelandet utan att skicka det vidare eller kopiera det. Trots att vi intygar att e-postmeddelandet och eventuella bilagor inte innehåller virus och andra fel som kan påverka datorn eller IT-systemet där det mottages och läses, öppnas det på mottagarens eget ansvar. Vi tar inte på oss något ansvar för förlust eller skada, som har uppstått i samband med att e-postmeddelandet mottagits och använts. _ Please note that this message may contain confidential information. If you have received this message by mistake, please inform the sender of the mistake by sending a reply, then delete the message from your system without making, distributing or retaining any copies of it. Although we believe that the message and any attachment are free from viruses and other errors that might affect the computer or IT system where it is received and read, the recipient opens the message at his or her own risk. We assume no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this message.
Re: SV: TSM for SAN in Solaris Zones?
Yup, this is exactly how I've done it for a client recently too - the SAN Storage Agent installed in the global zone, in the local zones the client/TDP combos all send their data to the global zone's Storage Agent (over IP) which in turn transports the data over the SAN to the target storage. David Mc London On 15 Oct 2010, at 15:10, Christian Svensson christian.svens...@cristie.se wrote: Hi Niklas, What you can do is to install a SAN Agent as a Proxy Server that transport the data LANFree. Have setup a couple of them on another Swedish SUN Enterprise customer. :) Best Regards Christian Svensson Cell: +46-70-325 1577 E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se Skype: cristie.christian.svensson Supported Platform for CPU2TSM:: http://www.cristie.se/cpu2tsm-supported-platforms Från: Niklas Lundström [niklas.lundst...@swedbank.se] Skickat: den 15 oktober 2010 14:08 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM for SAN in Solaris Zones? Hello First of all, I am not a Solaris admin or an Oracle DBA and my knowledge about it is limited We plan to use TSM for San and TSM for databases to backup Oracle DB over the SAN. However when the Unix admin saw the requirements for it he said that there might be a problem Apparently we're using sparse local zones to run the Oracle DB. TSM Storage Agent Yes * Supported in global and non-global Whole Root zones * No support for non-global Sparse zones * No support for SAN discovery in non-global Whole Root zones Can you install TSM for SAN in the global zone, and from the local zones use the storage agent in the global zone or is the local zone unaware of the storage agent in the global zone? Or can you install everything in the global zone, and use RMAN to backup all the DB's in the local zones? Any help is appreciated Regards Niklas Lundström Niklas Lundström Storage Administrator Swedbank AB (publ) 105 34 Stockholm Telefon: +46 (0)8 5859 5164 Mobil: +46 (0)70 24 76 345 Vi ber dig lägga märke till att detta e-postmeddelande kan innehålla konfidentiell information. Om du felaktigt blivit mottagare av detta meddelande ber vi dig informera avsändaren om felet genom att använda svara-funktionen. Vi ber dig också att radera e-postmeddelandet utan att skicka det vidare eller kopiera det. Trots att vi intygar att e-postmeddelandet och eventuella bilagor inte innehåller virus och andra fel som kan påverka datorn eller IT-systemet där det mottages och läses, öppnas det på mottagarens eget ansvar. Vi tar inte på oss något ansvar för förlust eller skada, som har uppstått i samband med att e-postmeddelandet mottagits och använts. _ Please note that this message may contain confidential information. If you have received this message by mistake, please inform the sender of the mistake by sending a reply, then delete the message from your system without making, distributing or retaining any copies of it. Although we believe that the message and any attachment are free from viruses and other errors that might affect the computer or IT system where it is received and read, the recipient opens the message at his or her own risk. We assume no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the receipt or use of this message.
TSM for SAN licensing
Hi, Is Tivoli Storage Manager for SAN 6.2 licensed per terabyte? Thanks
SV: TSM for SAN licensing
Hi Mehdi, No. The only TSM Lic that is per TB by default is TSM for HSM. Best Regards Christian Svensson Cell: +46-70-325 1577 E-mail: christian.svens...@cristie.se Skype: cristie.christian.svensson Supported Platform for CPU2TSM:: http://www.cristie.se/cpu2tsm-supported-platforms Från: Mehdi Salehi [ezzo...@googlemail.com] Skickat: den 5 juli 2010 12:49 Till: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Ämne: TSM for SAN licensing Hi, Is Tivoli Storage Manager for SAN 6.2 licensed per terabyte? Thanks
TSM with SAN 5.3
Hi , I was installed tsm storage agent to all the machines, expect tsm server. I have 3584 Library with 8 drives. I have define the following policy domain with multiple client nodes, 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline 2. tapepooldb2devonline 3. tapepoolprdndailyincr 4. tapepooldevdailyincr 5. tapepoolprdnweekfull How can I separate the drives in library. example: 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline to drive 1 2. tapepooldb2devonline to drive 2 Or 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline to drive 1 2. tapepooldb2devonline to drive 1 3. tapepoolprdndailyincr to drive 1 or how to allocate the drives to all the machines. Really I didn't understand how to set up this environment. We don't have disk storage, we only have tape library with 8 drives. Please advice how to I further proceed. Note: Can u recommend any guide for tsm with san Regards Murugan DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated.
Re: TSM with SAN 5.3
This should help you: www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg246687.pdf Regards, Rama -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Murugan_Pachamallayan Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:55 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM with SAN 5.3 Hi , I was installed tsm storage agent to all the machines, expect tsm server. I have 3584 Library with 8 drives. I have define the following policy domain with multiple client nodes, 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline 2. tapepooldb2devonline 3. tapepoolprdndailyincr 4. tapepooldevdailyincr 5. tapepoolprdnweekfull How can I separate the drives in library. example: 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline to drive 1 2. tapepooldb2devonline to drive 2 Or 1. tapepooldb2prdnonline to drive 1 2. tapepooldb2devonline to drive 1 3. tapepoolprdndailyincr to drive 1 or how to allocate the drives to all the machines. Really I didn't understand how to set up this environment. We don't have disk storage, we only have tape library with 8 drives. Please advice how to I further proceed. Note: Can u recommend any guide for tsm with san Regards Murugan DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/
TSM for SAN 5.3.
Dear List, I installed TSM Extended Edition 5.3 on Windows 2003 Server, and I have 18 AIX 5.3 Servers and 10 Windows 2003 Server. All are the systems connected through SAN. I have IBM Total Storage 3584 Tape Library with 8 LTO Drives. I have some queries; please can any one help me out in this regard. Queries 1. I can install Tivoli Storage Manager Storage agent 5.3.0 to all the machines except TSM server? 2. And Can I install all the machine B/A Client 5.3.0,? 3. I have 5 DB2 Servers; it is possible to take online backup to the Tape Library. Regards, Murugan DISCLAIMER: This email (including any attachments) is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient/s and may contain material that is CONFIDENTIAL AND PRIVATE COMPANY INFORMATION. Any review or reliance by others or copying or distribution or forwarding of any or all of the contents in this message is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated.
Re: Antwort: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM server s to share a library?
Thanks to everyone who responded for the help! -Original Message- From: Markus Veit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Antwort: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library? Hi Neil, I agree with Zlatko, as does our IBM sales rep. That's what we do now with TSM EX. I already ask that question once and Zlatko responded, so I hit the sales rep with it and after aggreeing the maintanance dropped :-). Thanks Zlatko Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Markus Veit An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kopie: Thema: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received : 02.07.2003 00:52 Bitte antworten an ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Can somebody verify that we don't need the TSM for SAN add-on to share a library (ADIC 10K or 3494) between 2 TSM servers? The TSM servers are both running on AIX. The drives are zoned so each server get's half, and the LM is Ethernet. Why would we need the add-on? We aren't doing any LAN-free backups. Thanks! Neil
Re: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library?
You can use the feature library sharing between servers. The storage agent is just for TSM Clients. - Original Message - From: Poland, Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library? Can somebody verify that we don't need the TSM for SAN add-on to share a library (ADIC 10K or 3494) between 2 TSM servers? The TSM servers are both running on AIX. The drives are zoned so each server get's half, and the LM is Ethernet. Why would we need the add-on? We aren't doing any LAN-free backups. Thanks! Neil
Re: Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library?
You need Library Sharing feature as Anderson already suggested. It is part of TSM Extended Edition and not TSM for SAN. On the end you already ought to have TSM XE due to size of the library (ADIC 10k and IBM 3494 are sure beyond 40 slots). Bottom line: you already have all necessary licenses! Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Poland, Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02.07.2003 01:12 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is the TSM for SAN Add-on necessary for 2 TSM servers to share a library? Can somebody verify that we don't need the TSM for SAN add-on to share a library (ADIC 10K or 3494) between 2 TSM servers? The TSM servers are both running on AIX. The drives are zoned so each server get's half, and the LM is Ethernet. Why would we need the add-on? We aren't doing any LAN-free backups. Thanks! Neil
Re: TSM on SAN
Hi, I thing that the modules you need are: 1. IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Extended Edition 2. IBM Tivoli Storage Manager for SAN 3. Tivoli SANergy You need licenses for all your processors and for library if you have more than two drives in 3583 (where the max is 6) Bese Regards, Svetoslav Tolev -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Murthy V Gongala Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM on SAN Hi TSM Guru's, I am currently running TSM 4.2 on AIX. Am planning to upgrade 5.1 Which version of TSM is best suited to run on SAN having 3583 libraries and a Shark. What are all the modules required in TSM to have LAN Free Server Free backups. Are there any stumbling blocks that should be looked out for while implementing TSM on SAN. Would greatly appreciate any inputs on how to go about implementing and avoid pitfalls. Thanks in Advance murthy bangalore India
TSM on SAN
Hi TSM Guru's, I am currently running TSM 4.2 on AIX. Am planning to upgrade 5.1 Which version of TSM is best suited to run on SAN having 3583 libraries and a Shark. What are all the modules required in TSM to have LAN Free Server Free backups. Are there any stumbling blocks that should be looked out for while implementing TSM on SAN. Would greatly appreciate any inputs on how to go about implementing and avoid pitfalls. Thanks in Advance murthy bangalore India
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
No, we don't have a SAN now. IBM is trying to sell us one. I am just looking into ways to incorporate it into our existing configuration before making a recommendation to my boss. Our Exchange database is about 40G. It is being backed up directly to tapes through the LAN to FC 3590E tape drives in a 3494 and runs for 2 hours. Eliza I guess I do not understand why you made the 5 SAN clients SAN if you are not going to go directly to tape. How big is the Exchange Server. 2 Hours sounds like a long time for SAN attached 3590s. The only possible way to do this may be with SANErgy, but I cannot think of way to share the disk pool between the SAN and LAN clients right now. My recommendation for this type of configuration is to use Gigabit in the TSM Server and the SAN clients that you have. It is cheaper and does exactly what you are trying to do. I guess the machines/disk you have are just too slow to drive the tape drives to effectively use SAN. -Original Message- From: Eliza Lau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN What I am trying to achieve is to have all SAN and non-SAN clients backup to a disk storage pool that is on the SAN and then migrate to the SAN-attahced 3494. We will have 5 SAN clients and 300+ non-SAN clients with only 6 tape drives. I don't want the 5 SAN clients to tie up the tape drives with LAN-free backup during the backup window. The Exchange backup alone takes 2 hours. Is this doable with a AIX TSM server? Eliza -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
Wait until TSM version 5 is available (end of April) as that will allow you to do LAN free to disk as well as Tape under the same licence. Therefore you will be getting SANErgy for cheap. This will allow you to backup your SAN attached nodes to disk and then migrate the data to tape when the drives are free. Regards, Michael Swinhoe Storage Management Group E-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Eliza Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .VT.EDU cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 15/03/2002 14:19 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager No, we don't have a SAN now. IBM is trying to sell us one. I am just looking into ways to incorporate it into our existing configuration before making a recommendation to my boss. Our Exchange database is about 40G. It is being backed up directly to tapes through the LAN to FC 3590E tape drives in a 3494 and runs for 2 hours. Eliza I guess I do not understand why you made the 5 SAN clients SAN if you are not going to go directly to tape. How big is the Exchange Server. 2 Hours sounds like a long time for SAN attached 3590s. The only possible way to do this may be with SANErgy, but I cannot think of way to share the disk pool between the SAN and LAN clients right now. My recommendation for this type of configuration is to use Gigabit in the TSM Server and the SAN clients that you have. It is cheaper and does exactly what you are trying to do. I guess the machines/disk you have are just too slow to drive the tape drives to effectively use SAN. -Original Message- From: Eliza Lau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN What I am trying to achieve is to have all SAN and non-SAN clients backup to a disk storage pool that is on the SAN and then migrate to the SAN-attahced 3494. We will have 5 SAN clients and 300+ non-SAN clients with only 6 tape drives. I don't want the 5 SAN clients to tie up the tape drives with LAN-free backup during the backup window. The Exchange backup alone takes 2 hours. Is this doable with a AIX TSM server? Eliza -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ The information contained in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy or otherwise use it and do not disclose it to anyone else. Please notify the sender of the delivery error and then delete the message from your system. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author only. Thank you for your assistance. ___
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
-Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
What I am trying to achieve is to have all SAN and non-SAN clients backup to a disk storage pool that is on the SAN and then migrate to the SAN-attahced 3494. We will have 5 SAN clients and 300+ non-SAN clients with only 6 tape drives. I don't want the 5 SAN clients to tie up the tape drives with LAN-free backup during the backup window. The Exchange backup alone takes 2 hours. Is this doable with a AIX TSM server? Eliza -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
Eliza, Per Tivoli, yes it is with a SANergy MDC (on NT or Sun) and SANergy clients on all of your TSM clients that you want to have backup to a SAN shared disk pool. It is documented at http://www.tivoli.com/products/index/storage_mgr/storage_mgr_concepts.html Steffan - Original Message - From: Eliza Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:39 AM Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN What I am trying to achieve is to have all SAN and non-SAN clients backup to a disk storage pool that is on the SAN and then migrate to the SAN-attahced 3494. We will have 5 SAN clients and 300+ non-SAN clients with only 6 tape drives. I don't want the 5 SAN clients to tie up the tape drives with LAN-free backup during the backup window. The Exchange backup alone takes 2 hours. Is this doable with a AIX TSM server? Eliza -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
I guess I do not understand why you made the 5 SAN clients SAN if you are not going to go directly to tape. How big is the Exchange Server. 2 Hours sounds like a long time for SAN attached 3590s. The only possible way to do this may be with SANErgy, but I cannot think of way to share the disk pool between the SAN and LAN clients right now. My recommendation for this type of configuration is to use Gigabit in the TSM Server and the SAN clients that you have. It is cheaper and does exactly what you are trying to do. I guess the machines/disk you have are just too slow to drive the tape drives to effectively use SAN. -Original Message- From: Eliza Lau [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN What I am trying to achieve is to have all SAN and non-SAN clients backup to a disk storage pool that is on the SAN and then migrate to the SAN-attahced 3494. We will have 5 SAN clients and 300+ non-SAN clients with only 6 tape drives. I don't want the 5 SAN clients to tie up the tape drives with LAN-free backup during the backup window. The Exchange backup alone takes 2 hours. Is this doable with a AIX TSM server? Eliza -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HELP with TSM and SAN 1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. Thanks Adolph. This clears things up. But there is indeed a SANergy client for AIX. The Tivoli rep just quoted me a license. It requires 130 points. Then why can't I run the SANergy MDC on a W2K box to export the disk storage pool to the AIX SANergy client where the TSM server is. From this disk storage pool backup files will migrate to the 3494. The W2K box and the AIX TSM server will both be on the SAN. Eliza, why would you want to do this? What are you trying to achieve? Maybe we should take this off the list server. My email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP with TSM and SAN
1. LAN FREE B/A is available with the Storage Agent in TSM 4.2 2. SANergy MDC cannot run on AIX - WIN2k, WINNT, Solaris, Red Hat and SuSe. 3. The non-SAN clients can backup to a SAN or non-SAN disk pool. The TSM server writes to the disk pool, the client does not. If the TSM server has access to the SAN then I would have all of the 3494 tapes attached to the SAN. Partitioning the library is not required. All of my clients with 3494 libraries and SAN, have all of the drives on the SAN. 4. Server Free backup will require the use of a San Data Gateway - this is a hardware box- The current box available from IBM is a 2108-G07. 5. Server Free means both the TSM Server and the Client are not doing i/o to the disk or tape for backup purposes. This comes with TSM 5.1. Initially this will be very limited in the clients that are supported and the TSM server platform. Adolph Kahan -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eliza Lau Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 5:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HELP with TSM and SAN We are looking into getting a SAN. The more books I read about using TSM to back it up the more confused I am. I hope someone can answer my questions, and there are surely more to come. 1. In the Readbook Using TSM in a SAN Environment (from 12/2000, probably out of date), it states that LAN-free backup can only backup TDP for Exchange and TDP for SAP R/3 clients (p.42). Is this still true? If so, will support for the TSM B/A client be available in the future, maybe TSM 5.1? 2. LAN-free backup can only back up to tapes, but I can run SANergy to back up to a file then migrate to tapes. Someone mentioned that SANergy cannot use AIX as the server. Can anyone explain? Does this mean SANergy cannot use AIX as the MDC or with this setup you cannot backup to a AIX server? We run TSM server on AIX. Can I run SANergy MDC on another Win2000 box that serves the disk storage pool to the TSM AIX server and migrate to a 3494 tape pool? The Win2000 SANergy MDC, AIX TSM server, and 3494 will all be on the SAN. 3. The IBM salesrep recommends partitioning the 3494 so 2 tape drives will be connected to the SAN while the remaining 4 drives will not. Those 4 drives will be available to all the clients that are not on the SAN. Why can't we just connect all 6 drives to the SAN? Non-SAN Clients can still get to them through the AIX TSM server. Right? Can Non-SAN clients backup to a non-SAN disk storage pool then migrate to the SAN attached tape drives via the TSM server, i.e. the way it is now? 4. Serverless backup can only be done with SANergy. 5. Does the server in serverless backup mean the Exchange server and not the TSM server? This is the impression I get from the redbook. Serverless backup moves the Exchange data from SAN attached disks to the tape drives, bypassing the Exchange server. Right? server: TSM 4.1.3 on AIX 4.3.3 (will be TSM 4.2.1.9 soon, very soon) SAN clients: Exchange on Win2000, AIX, SUN non-SAN clients: Wins 2000/NT/98/95, SUN, AIX, Macs, Linux 3494 with 6 FC tape drives connected to the TSM server. Eliza Lau Virginia Tech Computing Center 1700 Pratt Drive Blacksburg, VA 24060 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of TSM and SAN DATAgateway and 3590 scsi drives work?
As the site says: THE LATEST. As the SAN technology is still new and there is much work to be done. Upgrade the latest (IMHO get also the one before it) microcode for SAN Data Gateway and the fabric (if you add it later). Upgrade the Atapi and atldd drivers. Upgrade by yourself or ask IBM CE to upgrade tape device microcodes. Try first with the latest TSM (or again the one before it) - I do already got v4.2 but preferred to install v4.1.4.1 and play with v4.2 in the sandbox. So you got my $0.02 :-)) Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Rick Un [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 19.09.2001 18:37:05 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:What version of TSM and SAN DATAgateway and 3590 scsi drives work? Hey, I was just wondering what version of TSM people are using in TSM land that work with this config (or similar one) IBM San DataGateway 2108 model G07 with scsi ports. ON those scsi port there are 4 IBM 3590 drives. This is connected to a fibre channel switch and then to an IBM 6227 card on a model h80 and h70 running AIX version 4.3.3. Ok, so what version of these particular filesets are people using, that works in a drive sharing config (where all 4 drives are seen and online on both servers while they share this resource) tivoli.tsm.server.rte tivoli.tsm.devices.fcprte Thanks in advance. rick un
Re: What version of TSM and SAN DATAgateway and 3590 scsi drives work?
I have a similar scenario. AIX 4.3.3, SAN McData Director ED-5000 with a 3584 library. The TSM version is 4.2, SAN is not supported in older version. You need to install de Storage Agent for AIX to work with the SAN. From: Rick Un <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What version of TSM and SAN DATAgateway and 3590 scsi drives work? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:37:05 -0500 Hey, I was just wondering what version of TSM people are using in TSM land that work with this config (or similar one) IBM San DataGateway 2108 model G07 with scsi ports. ON those scsi port there are 4 IBM 3590 drives. This is connected to a fibre channel switch and then to an IBM 6227 card on a model h80 and h70 running AIX version 4.3.3. Ok, so what version of these particular filesets are people using, that works in a drive sharing config (where all 4 drives are seen and online on both servers while they share this resource) tivoli.tsm.server.rte tivoli.tsm.devices.fcprte Thanks in advance. rick un Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
What version of TSM and SAN DATAgateway and 3590 scsi drives work?
Hey, I was just wondering what version of TSM people are using in TSM land that work with this config (or similar one) IBM San DataGateway 2108 model G07 with scsi ports. ON those scsi port there are 4 IBM 3590 drives. This is connected to a fibre channel switch and then to an IBM 6227 card on a model h80 and h70 running AIX version 4.3.3. Ok, so what version of these particular filesets are people using, that works in a drive sharing config (where all 4 drives are seen and online on both servers while they share this resource) tivoli.tsm.server.rte tivoli.tsm.devices.fcprte Thanks in advance. rick un
