Re: Audit License Running long
Didn't you change the AUDITSTORAGE key in DSMSERV.OPT to YES? If so, your server is computing summary for Q AUDITOCC command during audit. Tom -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 5:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Audit License Running long Audit license usually takes seconds to run but tonight it has been running for over an hour. Anyone might have some insight as to why this unusual change? Everything looks as normal as it ever does from what I can tell. TSM Server 5.1.6.2 on AIX 4.3.3 Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Audit License Running long
Audit license usually takes seconds to run but tonight it has been running for over an hour. Anyone might have some insight as to why this unusual change? Everything looks as normal as it ever does from what I can tell. TSM Server 5.1.6.2 on AIX 4.3.3 Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jane Bamberger I had that problem with expiration - my mail server kept pinning the process - When it finally ran to completion it took 4-5 days, and expired 16M files. Which goes to show that you simply *must* run a complete expiration on a regular basis. If your current schedule doesn't allow it, you need to shove the start time for events until you *do* have a window. In my experience, a fair percentage of heavily-used/heavily-abused TSM servers that fail to run properly often do so because of incomplete expirations. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and backups
Hi there, Env: TSM server for MVS v4.2.0.0 with about 200 client nodes At last time I had noted TSM server hangs when expire inventory or audit license processes are running. Some client backup sessions and all processes (migrations including audit or expire itself) are freezed, otherwise administration is possible. After recycling TSM server all gone OK. My question: Is there some restrictions to simultaneous running of expire inventory (or audit license) and migrations (or client backups)? Is it posible that these two precesses can definitely hangs all other server work? The system that I mentioned is relatively high-loaded and there is hard to avoid collisions with backups. Any help will be appreciated. Sorry for my english :-) Tom
Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups
Hi Tom! I have seen this too a few days ago on my AIX server, running TSM 4.2.2.0. It looks like some kind of deadlock on a logpage. You will see that the expire inventory is just hanging and that one of your backup sessions is hanging too. You don't have to recycle the server though. As soon as you cancel the hanging client session, the expire inventory process continues. I haven't seen an APAR or fix for it, but since Tivoli implemented a the command SHOW LOGPINNED in 4.2.2.1 I think it's a known problem. Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Tom Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and backups Hi there, Env: TSM server for MVS v4.2.0.0 with about 200 client nodes At last time I had noted TSM server hangs when expire inventory or audit license processes are running. Some client backup sessions and all processes (migrations including audit or expire itself) are freezed, otherwise administration is possible. After recycling TSM server all gone OK. My question: Is there some restrictions to simultaneous running of expire inventory (or audit license) and migrations (or client backups)? Is it posible that these two precesses can definitely hangs all other server work? The system that I mentioned is relatively high-loaded and there is hard to avoid collisions with backups. Any help will be appreciated. Sorry for my english :-) Tom ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups
Another variation on the theme: On a 4.1.4.1 server here we see the 'log pinned' situation a LOT - very heavily abused server. One of the oddities is that once we clear the sessions, and do an incremental db backup, the log utilization doesn't drop until we issue an expire inventory command. Running an expire inventory drives log utilization up at an extremely high rate on this server, consequently expiration has not completed on this server in a very long time. I'm shutting down all other activity on the server over a 24 hour period this weekend to see if we can force a full expiration and hopefully that will alleviate the symptoms a bit. -Original Message- From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups Hi Tom! I have seen this too a few days ago on my AIX server, running TSM 4.2.2.0. It looks like some kind of deadlock on a logpage. You will see that the expire inventory is just hanging and that one of your backup sessions is hanging too. You don't have to recycle the server though. As soon as you cancel the hanging client session, the expire inventory process continues. I haven't seen an APAR or fix for it, but since Tivoli implemented a the command SHOW LOGPINNED in 4.2.2.1 I think it's a known problem. Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Tom Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and backups Hi there, Env: TSM server for MVS v4.2.0.0 with about 200 client nodes At last time I had noted TSM server hangs when expire inventory or audit license processes are running. Some client backup sessions and all processes (migrations including audit or expire itself) are freezed, otherwise administration is possible. After recycling TSM server all gone OK. My question: Is there some restrictions to simultaneous running of expire inventory (or audit license) and migrations (or client backups)? Is it posible that these two precesses can definitely hangs all other server work? The system that I mentioned is relatively high-loaded and there is hard to avoid collisions with backups. Any help will be appreciated. Sorry for my english :-) Tom ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups
I had that problem with expiration - my mail server kept pinning the process - When it finally ran to completion it took 4-5 days, and expired 16M files. Good luck! Jane %% Jane Bamberger IS Department Bassett Healthcare 607-547-4750 - Original Message - From: Jolliff, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups Another variation on the theme: On a 4.1.4.1 server here we see the 'log pinned' situation a LOT - very heavily abused server. One of the oddities is that once we clear the sessions, and do an incremental db backup, the log utilization doesn't drop until we issue an expire inventory command. Running an expire inventory drives log utilization up at an extremely high rate on this server, consequently expiration has not completed on this server in a very long time. I'm shutting down all other activity on the server over a 24 hour period this weekend to see if we can force a full expiration and hopefully that will alleviate the symptoms a bit. -Original Message- From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups Hi Tom! I have seen this too a few days ago on my AIX server, running TSM 4.2.2.0. It looks like some kind of deadlock on a logpage. You will see that the expire inventory is just hanging and that one of your backup sessions is hanging too. You don't have to recycle the server though. As soon as you cancel the hanging client session, the expire inventory process continues. I haven't seen an APAR or fix for it, but since Tivoli implemented a the command SHOW LOGPINNED in 4.2.2.1 I think it's a known problem. Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Tom Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and backups Hi there, Env: TSM server for MVS v4.2.0.0 with about 200 client nodes At last time I had noted TSM server hangs when expire inventory or audit license processes are running. Some client backup sessions and all processes (migrations including audit or expire itself) are freezed, otherwise administration is possible. After recycling TSM server all gone OK. My question: Is there some restrictions to simultaneous running of expire inventory (or audit license) and migrations (or client backups)? Is it posible that these two precesses can definitely hangs all other server work? The system that I mentioned is relatively high-loaded and there is hard to avoid collisions with backups. Any help will be appreciated. Sorry for my english :-) Tom ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups
OK, now is question, how can I recognize hanging client session? (There is about 150 sessions at the time) I did q sess to file last time it happens, but all session were at Run state. In addition ... when I recognize it and cancel it, will the client reestablish session with server to end up backup? I see no good solution for this situation in automated manner (this is what I need), except of prevent it - this means write script to test if no client sessions are started at the time, disable clients, start expiration, and past it stops, enable clients. Any other idea? Tom -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and back ups Hi Tom! I have seen this too a few days ago on my AIX server, running TSM 4.2.2.0. It looks like some kind of deadlock on a logpage. You will see that the expire inventory is just hanging and that one of your backup sessions is hanging too. You don't have to recycle the server though. As soon as you cancel the hanging client session, the expire inventory process continues. I haven't seen an APAR or fix for it, but since Tivoli implemented a the command SHOW LOGPINNED in 4.2.2.1 I think it's a known problem. Kindest regards, Eric van Loon KLM Royal Dutch Airlines -Original Message- From: Toma9 Hrouda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 12:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Expire inventory (or audit license) hangs migrations and backups Hi there, Env: TSM server for MVS v4.2.0.0 with about 200 client nodes At last time I had noted TSM server hangs when expire inventory or audit license processes are running. Some client backup sessions and all processes (migrations including audit or expire itself) are freezed, otherwise administration is possible. After recycling TSM server all gone OK. My question: Is there some restrictions to simultaneous running of expire inventory (or audit license) and migrations (or client backups)? Is it posible that these two precesses can definitely hangs all other server work? The system that I mentioned is relatively high-loaded and there is hard to avoid collisions with backups. Any help will be appreciated. Sorry for my english :-) Tom ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. **
audit license
I was going to do an audit license over Easter vacation to update the status of my licenses. I don't want to audit the storage so I was going to do the command: AUDIT LICENSE AUDITSTORAGE I was just wondering if the syntax is correct? I looked it up in the book, but it doesn't really give the format, it just states that the administrator can use the AUDITSTORAGE parameter to exclude auditing the storage. Thanks Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
Re: audit license
How about Audit Lic... -Original Message- From: Joni Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: audit license I was going to do an audit license over Easter vacation to update the status of my licenses. I don't want to audit the storage so I was going to do the command: AUDIT LICENSE AUDITSTORAGE I was just wondering if the syntax is correct? I looked it up in the book, but it doesn't really give the format, it just states that the administrator can use the AUDITSTORAGE parameter to exclude auditing the storage. Thanks Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
Re: audit license
Do a 'help setopt' on the TSM Server. You'll see 'NoAuditStorage'. A 'q opt' reports the current option value in the 2nd column. Set it before running 'Audit License'. It's not part of the 'Audit License' command. Joni Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22-Mar-2002 08:40 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L cc: Subject:audit license I was going to do an audit license over Easter vacation to update the status of my licenses. I don't want to audit the storage so I was going to do the command: AUDIT LICENSE AUDITSTORAGE I was just wondering if the syntax is correct? I looked it up in the book, but it doesn't really give the format, it just states that the administrator can use the AUDITSTORAGE parameter to exclude auditing the storage. Thanks Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
Re: audit license
The AUDITSTORAGE parameter goes in your server options file (such as dsmserv.opt). The default value is YES. If you specify AUDITSTORAGE NO in the server options file, then AUDIT LICENSES won't audit storage. You can use the QUERY OPTION (abbreviated to Q OPT if you wish) command to determine the current AUDITSTORAGE setting. If you need to change it, you have to put AUDITSTORAGE NO in your server options file, then stop and restart the TSM server. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. Joni Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/22/2002 06:40 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:audit license I was going to do an audit license over Easter vacation to update the status of my licenses. I don't want to audit the storage so I was going to do the command: AUDIT LICENSE AUDITSTORAGE I was just wondering if the syntax is correct? I looked it up in the book, but it doesn't really give the format, it just states that the administrator can use the AUDITSTORAGE parameter to exclude auditing the storage. Thanks Joni Moyer Associate Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (717)975-8338
AUDIT LICENSE and Occupancy tables
I thought I had read somewhere that it was no longer necessary in TSM 4.1.x to do an AUDIT LICENSE in order to get good information back with a Q OCC, or with a SELECT from the occupancy tables. Is that so, or did I just imagine this? Can't find any releated doc now, or remember where I saw it (if I really did!)...
Re: AUDIT LICENSE and Occupancy tables
Wanda, You don't need to do an audit license to get good data back from 'q occ' or 'select * from occupancy ...'. But there is another table in the server called auditoccupancy and you do need to do audit license to get current data into it. I always use the occupancy table because it reports by filespace and storagepool whereas auditoccupancy adds all the filespaces together. If you only use the occupancy table you can speed up the audit license process by adding 'auditstorage no' to the server options file. Hope this helps, -- -- Bill Colwell C. S. Draper Lab Cambridge, Ma. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/23/01 at 05:10 PM, Prather, Wanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I thought I had read somewhere that it was no longer necessary in TSM 4.1.x to do an AUDIT LICENSE in order to get good information back with a Q OCC, or with a SELECT from the occupancy tables. Is that so, or did I just imagine this? Can't find any releated doc now, or remember where I saw it (if I really did!)...
Re: AUDIT LICENSE and Occupancy tables
Yes, q occ returns good info without the license audit. You still need to run the audit to use q auditocc. I prefer q auditocc for some things. _ William Mansfield Senior Consultant Solution Technology, Inc Prather, Wanda Wanda.Prather@JTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HUAPL.EDU cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: AUDIT LICENSE and Occupancy tables Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] T.EDU 10/23/2001 02:12 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager I thought I had read somewhere that it was no longer necessary in TSM 4.1.x to do an AUDIT LICENSE in order to get good information back with a Q OCC, or with a SELECT from the occupancy tables. Is that so, or did I just imagine this? Can't find any releated doc now, or remember where I saw it (if I really did!)...
