Re: backup stgpool from one server to another?

2005-04-20 Thread Prather, Wanda
You're welcome!.

And another thing I forgot to mention:

Use of TSM virtual volumes requires TSM Extended Edition to be entitled
to the server-to-server license.

 

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Mike
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Prather, Wanda might have said:

> Yes, you can use one TSM server as an "electronic vault" for another
TSM server.
>
> Look in the Administrator's Guide under the topic "Using Virtual
Volumes to Store Data on Another Server".
>
> It may not be the best approach, however:
>
> * The data is sent from the primary server to the secondary server
via TCP/IP.  How well it works for you will depend a lot on the
available throughput you have, and the amount of data involved.
>
> * It may not work like you want:  Server-to-Server virtual volumes
create an "electronic vault", not a "standby server".  If your primary
server goes down (or burns up!), the data is safe on the "other" TSM
server, but cannot be restored directly from the other server.  You have
to recreate your pirmary TSM server image first.
>
> * First let me say that I don't even know what "on demand" is, but
I'm not sure what you mean by "temporary stuff".  If you are talking
about backups, TSM doesn't really understand the notion of "temporary".
How will you get those backups to expire off the "other" server?
Archives are a better choice for something that is "temporary".
>
> * "Virtual" volumes also have to be reclaimed, and that involves
transfer via TCP/IP again.
>
> * Have you considered creating a second copy pool and just moving
the tapes of this "temporary" stuff to the other server's location?
It's usually faster and easier to manage than virtual volumes, if you
have a lot of data.
>
> * I assume from your question that your TSM servers have separate
libraries.  I don't have enough information about your config to say for
sure, but if your library will support it, a better solution may be to
use a fibre connection to let your 2 TSM servers share one of the
libraries, and have your TSM "on demand" server write its copy pool into
the other machine's library.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Wanda Prather
> "* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *"  -(me)
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> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:25 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: backup stgpool from one server to another?
>
>
> We have two TSM servers with one that backs up all nodes
> on the network (Intel and AIX) and the other that backs
> up data specifically written to an OnDemand server (historical,
> legal stuff that is kept for 6+ years).
>
> Is it possible to cause the temporary stuff, the files
> sent to OnDemand today that are not yet off-site in
> 6 year storage, to the other general purpose TSM so the
> files do get preserved and off site in some way in case
> something drastic happens?
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> I'm not trying to change OnDemand, but rather temporarily
> send files from one TSM to the other.
>
> Mike
>

Thank you very much. Just what I was looking for.

Mike


Re: backup stgpool from one server to another?

2005-04-20 Thread Mike
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Prather, Wanda might have said:

> Yes, you can use one TSM server as an "electronic vault" for another TSM 
> server.
>
> Look in the Administrator's Guide under the topic "Using Virtual Volumes to 
> Store Data on Another Server".
>
> It may not be the best approach, however:
>
> * The data is sent from the primary server to the secondary server via 
> TCP/IP.  How well it works for you will depend a lot on the available 
> throughput you have, and the amount of data involved.
>
> * It may not work like you want:  Server-to-Server virtual volumes create 
> an "electronic vault", not a "standby server".  If your primary server goes 
> down (or burns up!), the data is safe on the "other" TSM server, but cannot 
> be restored directly from the other server.  You have to recreate your 
> pirmary TSM server image first.
>
> * First let me say that I don't even know what "on demand" is, but I'm 
> not sure what you mean by "temporary stuff".  If you are talking about 
> backups, TSM doesn't really understand the notion of "temporary".  How will 
> you get those backups to expire off the "other" server?  Archives are a 
> better choice for something that is "temporary".
>
> * "Virtual" volumes also have to be reclaimed, and that involves transfer 
> via TCP/IP again.
>
> * Have you considered creating a second copy pool and just moving the 
> tapes of this "temporary" stuff to the other server's location?  It's usually 
> faster and easier to manage than virtual volumes, if you have a lot of data.
>
> * I assume from your question that your TSM servers have separate 
> libraries.  I don't have enough information about your config to say for 
> sure, but if your library will support it, a better solution may be to use a 
> fibre connection to let your 2 TSM servers share one of the libraries, and 
> have your TSM "on demand" server write its copy pool into the other machine's 
> library.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Wanda Prather
> "* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *"  -(me)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:25 AM
> To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: backup stgpool from one server to another?
>
>
> We have two TSM servers with one that backs up all nodes
> on the network (Intel and AIX) and the other that backs
> up data specifically written to an OnDemand server (historical,
> legal stuff that is kept for 6+ years).
>
> Is it possible to cause the temporary stuff, the files
> sent to OnDemand today that are not yet off-site in
> 6 year storage, to the other general purpose TSM so the
> files do get preserved and off site in some way in case
> something drastic happens?
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> I'm not trying to change OnDemand, but rather temporarily
> send files from one TSM to the other.
>
> Mike
>

Thank you very much. Just what I was looking for.

Mike


Re: backup stgpool from one server to another?

2005-04-20 Thread Prather, Wanda
Yes, you can use one TSM server as an "electronic vault" for another TSM server.

Look in the Administrator's Guide under the topic "Using Virtual Volumes to 
Store Data on Another Server".

It may not be the best approach, however:

*   The data is sent from the primary server to the secondary server via 
TCP/IP.  How well it works for you will depend a lot on the available 
throughput you have, and the amount of data involved.

*   It may not work like you want:  Server-to-Server virtual volumes create 
an "electronic vault", not a "standby server".  If your primary server goes 
down (or burns up!), the data is safe on the "other" TSM server, but cannot be 
restored directly from the other server.  You have to recreate your pirmary TSM 
server image first.

*   First let me say that I don't even know what "on demand" is, but I'm 
not sure what you mean by "temporary stuff".  If you are talking about backups, 
TSM doesn't really understand the notion of "temporary".  How will you get 
those backups to expire off the "other" server?  Archives are a better choice 
for something that is "temporary".  

*   "Virtual" volumes also have to be reclaimed, and that involves transfer 
via TCP/IP again.  

*   Have you considered creating a second copy pool and just moving the 
tapes of this "temporary" stuff to the other server's location?  It's usually 
faster and easier to manage than virtual volumes, if you have a lot of data.

*   I assume from your question that your TSM servers have separate 
libraries.  I don't have enough information about your config to say for sure, 
but if your library will support it, a better solution may be to use a fibre 
connection to let your 2 TSM servers share one of the libraries, and have your 
TSM "on demand" server write its copy pool into the other machine's library.  

Hope that helps.

Wanda Prather
"* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *"  -(me)








 

-Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:25 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: backup stgpool from one server to another?


We have two TSM servers with one that backs up all nodes
on the network (Intel and AIX) and the other that backs
up data specifically written to an OnDemand server (historical,
legal stuff that is kept for 6+ years).

Is it possible to cause the temporary stuff, the files
sent to OnDemand today that are not yet off-site in
6 year storage, to the other general purpose TSM so the
files do get preserved and off site in some way in case
something drastic happens?

Does this make sense?

I'm not trying to change OnDemand, but rather temporarily
send files from one TSM to the other.

Mike


backup stgpool from one server to another?

2005-04-20 Thread Mike
We have two TSM servers with one that backs up all nodes
on the network (Intel and AIX) and the other that backs
up data specifically written to an OnDemand server (historical,
legal stuff that is kept for 6+ years).

Is it possible to cause the temporary stuff, the files
sent to OnDemand today that are not yet off-site in
6 year storage, to the other general purpose TSM so the
files do get preserved and off site in some way in case
something drastic happens?

Does this make sense?

I'm not trying to change OnDemand, but rather temporarily
send files from one TSM to the other.

Mike