Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-17 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
It is always highly recommended to use separate nodes for B/A client
(files) and TDP (application). TSM licenses are processor-based (v5.1) or
system-size (v4.2 and below) and do not depend on number of nodes over the
system.
For TDPO (RMAN) I would highly recommend to look at TDP for Oracle manual
(you can see there a separate option file is used, not one used by B/A
client).

Zlatko Krastev
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Zlatko,
We have Oracle DB and other Data on same node (APT75) . We are backing up
all file systems (excluding Oracle DB) using DAILYMGMT management class. I
am in process ofTDP/RMAN configuration   for Oracle DB backups.
Configuration requires Retain Extra Versions=0
 And Retain Only Version=0, so I created new management class  (TDPMGMT)
with Retain extra Versions=0 and Retain Only Version=0 as I cannot change
these values in DAILYMGMT class. DAILYMGMT class is
used for Daily backups   values for Retain Extra Versions=180 and Retain
Only Version=180.

How TDPMGMT class can be used for TDP/RMAN configuration?  Is there any
other way to accomplish this?

Thanks
SD









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Re: binding backups to different management classes






You are not binding a whole node. You can bind a set of files to a class,
another set to different class, etc.
If bindings are not defined through include options (dsm.sys for UNIX,
dsm.opt from Windows, cloptset for both) it is equivalent to binding of
everything to the default class.
Only one class can be default in a policy domain and node can belong to
only one domain at any particular moment (later another class can become
default or node can be moved to another domain).

Thus you have two options:
- bind everything to a particular class
-- for UNIX - include  /.../*  class name
-- for Windows - include ?:\...\*  class name
- move the node to a domain in which the class is default - upd no node
name dom=domain name

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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let me correct my question : How I can  bind a node with different
management class .

...


Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-17 Thread shekhar Dhotre
I am testing the NODENAME option in the dsm.sys file of the TDP client to
specify a different nodename. By specifying different nodename in dsm.sys
,I will  have separate nodenames for the baclient and the TDP client.
and can use different domain  I will let you know .



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It is always highly recommended to use separate nodes for B/A client
(files) and TDP (application). TSM licenses are processor-based (v5.1) or
system-size (v4.2 and below) and do not depend on number of nodes over the
system.
For TDPO (RMAN) I would highly recommend to look at TDP for Oracle manual
(you can see there a separate option file is used, not one used by B/A
client).

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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Zlatko,
We have Oracle DB and other Data on same node (APT75) . We are backing up
all file systems (excluding Oracle DB) using DAILYMGMT management class. I
am in process ofTDP/RMAN configuration   for Oracle DB backups.
Configuration requires Retain Extra Versions=0
 And Retain Only Version=0, so I created new management class  (TDPMGMT)
with Retain extra Versions=0 and Retain Only Version=0 as I cannot change
these values in DAILYMGMT class. DAILYMGMT class is
used for Daily backups   values for Retain Extra Versions=180 and Retain
Only Version=180.

How TDPMGMT class can be used for TDP/RMAN configuration?  Is there any
other way to accomplish this?

Thanks
SD









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You are not binding a whole node. You can bind a set of files to a class,
another set to different class, etc.
If bindings are not defined through include options (dsm.sys for UNIX,
dsm.opt from Windows, cloptset for both) it is equivalent to binding of
everything to the default class.
Only one class can be default in a policy domain and node can belong to
only one domain at any particular moment (later another class can become
default or node can be moved to another domain).

Thus you have two options:
- bind everything to a particular class
-- for UNIX - include  /.../*  class name
-- for Windows - include ?:\...\*  class name
- move the node to a domain in which the class is default - upd no node
name dom=domain name

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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let me correct my question : How I can  bind a node with different
management class .

...


binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread shekhar Dhotre
Hi All,

Is there anyway so that I can bind backup data  to different management
classes ?

Thanks
SD.


Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread David Longo
The simplest way if I understand question is this.
In dsm.opt for instance put these lines:

include /data1/*.db  7day_class
include /data2/*.db  14day_class

You could get quite detailed with this, try
to keep it as simple as possible though.


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Hi All,

Is there anyway so that I can bind backup data  to different management
classes ?

Thanks
SD.



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Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread shekhar Dhotre
let me correct my question : How I can  bind a node with different
management class .





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Actually either paths have to be specified with backslashes or the
includes have to be made in dsm.sys.
- on UNIX forward slashes are used but includes reside in dsm.sys
- on Windows includes reside in dsm.opt but backslashes are to be used
(even if it often works with forward ones)

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The simplest way if I understand question is this.
In dsm.opt for instance put these lines:

include /data1/*.db  7day_class
include /data2/*.db  14day_class

You could get quite detailed with this, try
to keep it as simple as possible though.


David B. Longo
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Health First, Inc.
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Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH  321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/03 12:35 PM 
Hi All,

Is there anyway so that I can bind backup data  to different management
classes ?

Thanks
SD.



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Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
You are not binding a whole node. You can bind a set of files to a class,
another set to different class, etc.
If bindings are not defined through include options (dsm.sys for UNIX,
dsm.opt from Windows, cloptset for both) it is equivalent to binding of
everything to the default class.
Only one class can be default in a policy domain and node can belong to
only one domain at any particular moment (later another class can become
default or node can be moved to another domain).

Thus you have two options:
- bind everything to a particular class
-- for UNIX - include  /.../*  class name
-- for Windows - include ?:\...\*  class name
- move the node to a domain in which the class is default - upd no node
name dom=domain name

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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let me correct my question : How I can  bind a node with different
management class .

...


Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread shekhar Dhotre
Zlatko,
We have Oracle DB and other Data on same node (APT75) . We are backing up
all file systems (excluding Oracle DB) using DAILYMGMT management class. I
am in process ofTDP/RMAN configuration   for Oracle DB backups.
Configuration requires Retain Extra Versions=0
 And Retain Only Version=0, so I created new management class  (TDPMGMT) with Retain 
extra Versions=0 and Retain Only Version=0 as I cannot change these values in 
DAILYMGMT class. DAILYMGMT class is
used for Daily backups   values for Retain Extra Versions=180 and Retain Only 
Version=180.

How TDPMGMT class can be used for TDP/RMAN configuration?  Is there any
other way to accomplish this?

Thanks
SD









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Re: binding backups to different management classes






You are not binding a whole node. You can bind a set of files to a class,
another set to different class, etc.
If bindings are not defined through include options (dsm.sys for UNIX,
dsm.opt from Windows, cloptset for both) it is equivalent to binding of
everything to the default class.
Only one class can be default in a policy domain and node can belong to
only one domain at any particular moment (later another class can become
default or node can be moved to another domain).

Thus you have two options:
- bind everything to a particular class
-- for UNIX - include  /.../*  class name
-- for Windows - include ?:\...\*  class name
- move the node to a domain in which the class is default - upd no node
name dom=domain name

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






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let me correct my question : How I can  bind a node with different
management class .

...


Re: binding backups to different management classes

2003-03-16 Thread Gagan Singh Rana
Yes U can do that by specifying the management class in either your dsm.opt (for 
windows)
or dsm.sys (for Unix systems) or else in your inclexclude file against the include
statement.

e.g

include /.../*  x-mgmtclass

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From: shekhar Dhotre [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:55 PM
Subject: binding backups to different management classes


 Hi All,

 Is there anyway so that I can bind backup data  to different management
 classes ?

 Thanks
 SD.