Re: deleting rman data
How do I verify the state of the objects? "Michel Engels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/15/2001 08:51:28 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data You should verify the state of the objects. After the deletion of the files via RMAN the state should change from active to inactive. Be sure your RetO value is set to 0 otherwise the files will be kept for some time depending your settings in the managementclass. When the files become inactive, the retention is set to 0 and the expiration on the server has run the files should disappear. Hope this helps, Michel "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/12/2001 10:49:32 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam) Subject: deleting rman data i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
Re: deleting rman data
*sm show versions nodename * Brgds, Othonas "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 11:31:26 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data How do I verify the state of the objects? "Michel Engels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/15/2001 08:51:28 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data You should verify the state of the objects. After the deletion of the files via RMAN the state should change from active to inactive. Be sure your RetO value is set to 0 otherwise the files will be kept for some time depending your settings in the managementclass. When the files become inactive, the retention is set to 0 and the expiration on the server has run the files should disappear. Hope this helps, Michel "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/12/2001 10:49:32 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam) Subject: deleting rman data i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
Re: deleting rman data
Othonas thanks for your reply thats exactly what I was looking for but I guess I still have a problem. My DBAs run this command change backuppiece tag 'TRIB20001215' delete. and it says the files are deleted from ORacle . I run expiration, expiration completes and yet the files are still in TSM Can anyone see if I'm still missing something or have I encountered a bug? "Othonas Xixis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 11:59:15 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data *sm show versions nodename * Brgds, Othonas "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 11:31:26 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data How do I verify the state of the objects? "Michel Engels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/15/2001 08:51:28 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data You should verify the state of the objects. After the deletion of the files via RMAN the state should change from active to inactive. Be sure your RetO value is set to 0 otherwise the files will be kept for some time depending your settings in the managementclass. When the files become inactive, the retention is set to 0 and the expiration on the server has run the files should disappear. Hope this helps, Michel "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/12/2001 10:49:32 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam) Subject: deleting rman data i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
Re: deleting rman data
It sounds like a problem at the API level between TSM and Oracle, either upgrade yr RMAN module, or the TSM Client API, or both... it seems to me that they don't hook up appropriately. Do you receive any errors on the dsierror.log file ? if yes... you might want to troubleshoot them and you will probably find the end. Finally, I trust that all your management classes/copygroup stuff are set properly... Good luck... Othonas "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 01:18:05 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data Othonas thanks for your reply thats exactly what I was looking for but I guess I still have a problem. My DBAs run this command change backuppiece tag 'TRIB20001215' delete. and it says the files are deleted from ORacle . I run expiration, expiration completes and yet the files are still in TSM Can anyone see if I'm still missing something or have I encountered a bug? "Othonas Xixis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 11:59:15 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data *sm show versions nodename * Brgds, Othonas "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/16/2001 11:31:26 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data How do I verify the state of the objects? "Michel Engels" [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 01/15/2001 08:51:28 AM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: deleting rman data You should verify the state of the objects. After the deletion of the files via RMAN the state should change from active to inactive. Be sure your RetO value is set to 0 otherwise the files will be kept for some time depending your settings in the managementclass. When the files become inactive, the retention is set to 0 and the expiration on the server has run the files should disappear. Hope this helps, Michel "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/12/2001 10:49:32 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam) Subject: deleting rman data i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
Re: deleting rman data
You should verify the state of the objects. After the deletion of the files via RMAN the state should change from active to inactive. Be sure your RetO value is set to 0 otherwise the files will be kept for some time depending your settings in the managementclass. When the files become inactive, the retention is set to 0 and the expiration on the server has run the files should disappear. Hope this helps, Michel "James healy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/12/2001 10:49:32 PM Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Michel Engels/BE/Devoteam) Subject: deleting rman data i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
deleting rman data
i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.
Re: deleting rman data
Are you running expiration regurlarly on the *SM server? That has to be done to actually delete the files. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/12/01 04:49PM i have a question about verifying the deletion of rman data. i'd like to know how anyone verifies that old versions of rman files are getting deleted. My DBAs say they are running the commands to expire old versions but I don't see it happening Are there any commands that I could erify this with. I've checked q occ and the number of files does not decrease for that rman client.