AW: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] disk layout for db and log

2005-10-20 Thread Gloeer, Kirsten
Hi,

at the Oxford TSM Symposium there was a contribution by Jarrett Potts about 
improving performance:

http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/papers/Finding%20Performance%20Bottlenecks%20in%20Tivoli%20Storage%20Manager%20Environments%20(Jarrett%20Potts).pdf

We use raw logical db (16 GB) and log volumes (4 GB) and mirror with TSM.

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer

Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe GmbH
Institut für Wissenschaftliches Rechnen (IWR)
 
Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1  Tel.: +49 (0)7247-82-8616
76344 Eggenstein-LeopoldshafenFax: +49 (0)7247-82-4972
Deutschland  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Hi,

Gloeer, Kirsten schrieb:

> within the performance guide it is recommended to use multiple db 
> volumes (4 - 16) and multiple log volumes.

Where did you get the information about using 4-16 volumes? The performance 
guide only talks about "multiple" volumes on "multiple" disks.

> A TSM server database with 195 GB seems to be very large in order to 
> reach high performance rates.

At the moment our database is 48 GB in size and is 65% utilized. What, if I use 
raw logical volumes for the db and log volumes? Maybe I should start with 3 or 
4 rlv of size 20 GB, each on a separate disk and let them be mirrored by TSM. 
My other question was about allocationg db and log volumes on the same disks or 
separating them. So there are two possible configurations:

hdisk2: db1 (20GB) + log1 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk5
hdisk3: db2 (20GB) + log2 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk6
hdisk4: db3 (20GB) + log3 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk7

or

hdisk2: db1 (20GB) + db2 (20GB) -> mirror on hdisk5
hdisk3: db3 (20GB) + db4 (20GB) -> mirror on hdisk6
hdisk4: log1 (4GB) + log2 (4GB) + log3 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk7

--
Regards,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center) Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 
Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


Re: AW: [ADSM-L] disk layout for db and log

2005-10-19 Thread Dirk Kastens

Hi,

Gloeer, Kirsten schrieb:


within the performance guide it is recommended to use multiple db volumes (4 - 
16) and multiple log volumes.


Where did you get the information about using 4-16 volumes? The
performance guide only talks about "multiple" volumes on "multiple" disks.


A TSM server database with 195 GB seems to be very large in order to reach high 
performance rates.


At the moment our database is 48 GB in size and is 65% utilized. What,
if I use raw logical volumes for the db and log volumes? Maybe I should
start with 3 or 4 rlv of size 20 GB, each on a separate disk and let
them be mirrored by TSM.
My other question was about allocationg db and log volumes on the same
disks or separating them. So there are two possible configurations:

hdisk2: db1 (20GB) + log1 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk5
hdisk3: db2 (20GB) + log2 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk6
hdisk4: db3 (20GB) + log3 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk7

or

hdisk2: db1 (20GB) + db2 (20GB) -> mirror on hdisk5
hdisk3: db3 (20GB) + db4 (20GB) -> mirror on hdisk6
hdisk4: log1 (4GB) + log2 (4GB) + log3 (4GB) -> mirror on hdisk7

--
Regards,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center)
Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


AW: [ADSM-L] disk layout for db and log

2005-10-19 Thread Gloeer, Kirsten
Hi,

within the performance guide it is recommended to use multiple db volumes (4 - 
16) and multiple log volumes.
A TSM server database with 195 GB seems to be very large in order to reach high 
performance rates.
Isn't it better to split the TSM server in two servers?

best regards,
Kirsten Glöer

Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe GmbH
Institut für Wissenschaftliches Rechnen (IWR)
 
Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1  Tel.: +49 (0)7247-82-8616
76344 Eggenstein-LeopoldshafenFax: +49 (0)7247-82-4972
Deutschland  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Von: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dirk 
Kastens
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 19. Oktober 2005 13:52
An: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Betreff: [ADSM-L] disk layout for db and log


Hi,

we bought a new IBM @server p5 520 for TSM. The server has 8 internal 70 GB 
harddisks. hdisk0 and hdisk1 contain the mirrorred rootvg with the operating 
system. So we have six disks left for the TSM db and recovery log. Both shall 
be mirrored, what makes three disks. What is the best disk layout? Should we 
create one big db volume on each of the three disks plus one big log volume? 
Maybe
hdisk2: db1 (65 GB) + log1 (4 GB)
hdisk3: db2 (65 GB) + log2 (4 GB)
hdisk4: db3 (65 GB) + log3 (4 GB)
Or should the recovery log be located on a separate disk (what will be a waste 
of space)? Shall we create on big db volume on every disk or several small 
volumes? Maybe
hdisk2: db1 + db2 + db3 (20 GB) + log1 (10 GB)
hdisk3: db4 + db5 + db6 (20 GB)
hdisk4: db7 + db8 + db9 (20 GB)

Any ideas are welcome.
--
Regards,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center) Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 
Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


Re: disk layout for db and log

2005-10-19 Thread Dirk Kastens

Jim,


Are you going to mirror at the hardware, OS, or application level?


I'm going to mirror at the application (TSM) level.


Spread the logical volumes across multiple disks at least two. The
database, logs, and storage pool volume need to run on their own disks.


The stgpool volumes are located in our SAN. If the database and log
volumes go on separate disks, I would only have two disks for the db and
one for the small recovery log (which are mirrored to the other three
disks).
I think it could be possible to have on disk with db AND log volumes on
it and the other two disks with only db volumes. Or will this layout
degrade performance too much?
--
Best wishes,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center)
Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470


disk layout for db and log

2005-10-19 Thread Dirk Kastens

Hi,

we bought a new IBM @server p5 520 for TSM. The server has 8 internal 70
GB harddisks. hdisk0 and hdisk1 contain the mirrorred rootvg with the
operating system. So we have six disks left for the TSM db and recovery
log. Both shall be mirrored, what makes three disks. What is the best
disk layout? Should we create one big db volume on each of the three
disks plus one big log volume? Maybe
hdisk2: db1 (65 GB) + log1 (4 GB)
hdisk3: db2 (65 GB) + log2 (4 GB)
hdisk4: db3 (65 GB) + log3 (4 GB)
Or should the recovery log be located on a separate disk (what will be a
waste of space)? Shall we create on big db volume on every disk or
several small volumes? Maybe
hdisk2: db1 + db2 + db3 (20 GB) + log1 (10 GB)
hdisk3: db4 + db5 + db6 (20 GB)
hdisk4: db7 + db8 + db9 (20 GB)

Any ideas are welcome.
--
Regards,

Dirk Kastens
Universitaet Osnabrueck, Rechenzentrum (Computer Center)
Albrechtstr. 28, 49069 Osnabrueck, Germany
Tel.: +49-541-969-2347, FAX: -2470