Re: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread David Browne
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Yep... Also the maxScr does play a role, you may have a diff in max scr
between used and allocated that still might be tooo small as a whole for
the amoutn of data you are trying to migrate.  ie 100 Tapes @ 100 GB = 1TB
, but you are trying to mugrate 2 TB...

Charles Hart
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No scratch tapes...


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pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage
pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?


ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL -
insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)


I check my tape pool and it appears I have scratch volumes and they are
marked read/write. See below:

 tsm: SIMTSM05>q stg tapepool1 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: TAPEPOOL1
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: TAPE_T10K
  Estimated Capacity: 126,337 G
  Space Trigger Util:
Pct Util: 13.3
Pct Migr: 65.6
 Pct Logical: 99.2
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
 Migration Processes: 1
   Reclamation Processes: 1
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: stk t10k tapes
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: Node
more...   ( to continue, 'C' to cancel)

   Reclamation Threshold: 100
   Offsite Reclamation Limit:
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 2 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
  Last Update by (administrator): TSO233
   Last Update Date/Time: 04/18/2007 08:00:55
Storage Pool Data Format: Native
Copy Storage Pool(s):
 Continue Copy on Error?:
CRC Data: No
Reclamation Type: Threshold

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Re: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread Charles A Hart
Yep... Also the maxScr does play a role, you may have a diff in max scr
between used and allocated that still might be tooo small as a whole for
the amoutn of data you are trying to migrate.  ie 100 Tapes @ 100 GB = 1TB
, but you are trying to mugrate 2 TB...

Charles Hart
UHT - Data Protection
(763)744-2263
Sharepoint:
http://unitedteams.uhc.com/uht/EnterpriseStorage/DataProtection/default.aspx




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No scratch tapes...


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485-B Elkton Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Browne
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To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage
pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage
pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?


ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL -
insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)


I check my tape pool and it appears I have scratch volumes and they are
marked read/write. See below:

 tsm: SIMTSM05>q stg tapepool1 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: TAPEPOOL1
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: TAPE_T10K
  Estimated Capacity: 126,337 G
  Space Trigger Util:
Pct Util: 13.3
Pct Migr: 65.6
 Pct Logical: 99.2
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
 Migration Processes: 1
   Reclamation Processes: 1
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: stk t10k tapes
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: Node
more...   ( to continue, 'C' to cancel)

   Reclamation Threshold: 100
   Offsite Reclamation Limit:
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 2 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
  Last Update by (administrator): TSO233
   Last Update Date/Time: 04/18/2007 08:00:55
Storage Pool Data Format: Native
Copy Storage Pool(s):
 Continue Copy on Error?:
CRC Data: No
Reclamation Type: Threshold

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Re: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread Kelly Lipp
No scratch tapes... 


Kelly J. Lipp
VP Manufacturing & CTO
STORServer, Inc.
485-B Elkton Drive
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
719-266-8777
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-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
David Browne
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:54 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage
pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage
pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?


ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL -
insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)


I check my tape pool and it appears I have scratch volumes and they are
marked read/write. See below:

 tsm: SIMTSM05>q stg tapepool1 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: TAPEPOOL1
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: TAPE_T10K
  Estimated Capacity: 126,337 G
  Space Trigger Util:
Pct Util: 13.3
Pct Migr: 65.6
 Pct Logical: 99.2
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
 Migration Processes: 1
   Reclamation Processes: 1
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: stk t10k tapes
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: Node
more...   ( to continue, 'C' to cancel)

   Reclamation Threshold: 100
   Offsite Reclamation Limit:
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 2 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
  Last Update by (administrator): TSO233
   Last Update Date/Time: 04/18/2007 08:00:55
Storage Pool Data Format: Native
Copy Storage Pool(s):
 Continue Copy on Error?:
CRC Data: No
Reclamation Type: Threshold

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?

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Re: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread Richard Sims

On Apr 18, 2007, at 10:26 AM, David Browne wrote:


 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182


David -

We lack the context of what was going on in the server when the error
appeared, or whether the operation was reattempted and consistently
failed each time.  It may be that the conditions described in APAR
IC52341 were in force.

Also, while the numbers you cite above make it appear that there is a
68 tape margin, the MAXSCRatch value is usually an arbitrary number,
and so the perceived margin may not actually exist in the library,
relative to its libvolumes complement.  Whereas you are using node
collocation, the rules as listed under "How the Server Selects
Volumes with Collocation Enabled" in the Admin Guide manual apply;
and whereas you have lots of volumes in Filling state and low
utilization, then TSM should have been able to continue writing
without such an error condition.  So something else is going on that
needs investigation, where some answers may be found by poring over
the Activity Log.

One seemingly obvious thing you should verify is that BACKUPPOOL
actually does point to TAPEPOOL1 as its next storage pool.  (It sure
would be nice if the TSM error message said what pool was in issue.)

   Richard Sims


Re: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread William Boyer
How many tapes are in the TAPEPOOL1 storage pool? You have a MAXSCRATCH of 250. 
If you have 250...then that's your issue. Try
updating the stgpool to a higher MAXSCRATCH= value.

SELECT COUNT(*) FROM VOLUMES WHERE STGPOOL_NAME='TAPEPOOL1'


Bill Boyer
"Life isn't about how fast you run, or how high you climb but how well you 
bounce" - ??


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Subject: ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL 
- insufficient space in subordinate storage
pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?


ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - 
insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS:
3433)


I check my tape pool and it appears I have scratch volumes and they are marked 
read/write. See below:

 tsm: SIMTSM05>q stg tapepool1 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: TAPEPOOL1
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: TAPE_T10K
  Estimated Capacity: 126,337 G
  Space Trigger Util:
Pct Util: 13.3
Pct Migr: 65.6
 Pct Logical: 99.2
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
 Migration Processes: 1
   Reclamation Processes: 1
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: stk t10k tapes
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: Node
more...   ( to continue, 'C' to cancel)

   Reclamation Threshold: 100
   Offsite Reclamation Limit:
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 2 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
  Last Update by (administrator): TSO233
   Last Update Date/Time: 04/18/2007 08:00:55
Storage Pool Data Format: Native
Copy Storage Pool(s):
 Continue Copy on Error?:
CRC Data: No
Reclamation Type: Threshold

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?

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ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL - insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)

2007-04-18 Thread David Browne
Any suggestions to what my problem could be?


ANR1025W Migration process 3433 terminated for storage pool BACKUPPOOL -
insufficient space in subordinate storage pool.(PROCESS: 3433)


I check my tape pool and it appears I have scratch volumes and they are
marked read/write. See below:

 tsm: SIMTSM05>q stg tapepool1 f=d

   Storage Pool Name: TAPEPOOL1
   Storage Pool Type: Primary
   Device Class Name: TAPE_T10K
  Estimated Capacity: 126,337 G
  Space Trigger Util:
Pct Util: 13.3
Pct Migr: 65.6
 Pct Logical: 99.2
High Mig Pct: 90
 Low Mig Pct: 70
 Migration Delay: 0
  Migration Continue: Yes
 Migration Processes: 1
   Reclamation Processes: 1
   Next Storage Pool:
Reclaim Storage Pool:
  Maximum Size Threshold: No Limit
  Access: Read/Write
 Description: stk t10k tapes
   Overflow Location:
   Cache Migrated Files?:
  Collocate?: Node
more...   ( to continue, 'C' to cancel)

   Reclamation Threshold: 100
   Offsite Reclamation Limit:
 Maximum Scratch Volumes Allowed: 250
  Number of Scratch Volumes Used: 182
   Delay Period for Volume Reuse: 2 Day(s)
  Migration in Progress?: No
Amount Migrated (MB): 0.00
Elapsed Migration Time (seconds): 0
Reclamation in Progress?: No
  Last Update by (administrator): TSO233
   Last Update Date/Time: 04/18/2007 08:00:55
Storage Pool Data Format: Native
Copy Storage Pool(s):
 Continue Copy on Error?:
CRC Data: No
Reclamation Type: Threshold

Any suggestions to what my problem could be?

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insufficient space in subordinate storage pool

2006-10-23 Thread Park, Rod
I have a tsm server at level 5.3.3.1. I have a disk pool that does
migrations to tapepool for any data 90 days or older. I have been
getting the following message:

10/23/06   08:34:27  ANR1025W Migration process 109294 terminated
for storage
  pool NT_DISKPOOL - insufficient space in
subordinate
  storage pool.(SESSION: 142746)


My tapepool looks like this:

tsm: TSMCORP3>q vol stg=tapepool

Volume Name  Storage Device Estimated
Pct  Volume
 Pool Name   Class Name  Capacity
Util  Status
 --- -- -
- 
T03420   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
10.1 Filling
T08313   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
8.6 Filling
T08409   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
24.5 Filling
T08412   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.2 Filling
T08420   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.0 Filling
T08424   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
3.1 Filling
T08473   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
2.3 Filling
T08499   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
1.2 Filling
T08528   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
0.8 Filling
T08554   TAPEPOOLLTO381,468.0
3.2 Filling

Tapepool is not set to collocate. If I set maxscr=15 then my migration
will continue and use the tapes listed above, it doesn't go out and grab
scratches and label them in the tapepool and use those. Question is, why
isn't the migration processes using the 10 tapes I have out there that
are "filling" before I update maxscr. I checked them and they are all
read-write.

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