Re: licensing question
-David Tyree wrote: - We are thinking about adding an additional TSM server to our environment to use for an offsite DR. Basically we would duplicate our onsite data to the new offsite TSM server. How would we go about licensing for the additional server? Or does it matter? There doesn't seem to be any source for authoritative answers to most questions about TSM licensing. However, my best guess is as follows: You will need value units for the system hosting the new offsite server, unless you already have the system licensed for some reason. You will need the same number of value units you would need if you going to install TSM client software on the same hardware and have it send backups to an existing TSM server. You will not need any additional value units for the client systems that have backups stored on one TSM server now and will have backups stored on two TSM servers in the future.
Re: licensing question
In general the way I understand this would work is that if you are using server to server to send data to the remote TSM server, then you will need to license it. If it is just sitting waiting for a DB restore and moving of tapes, then it does not need to be licensed. It falls back to the active/passive active/active philosophy, similar to clustering the TSM server. If they are both active at the same time, then you need licenses. Hope this helps. Gary Bowers Itrus Technologies On May 11, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Thomas Denier wrote: -David Tyree wrote: - We are thinking about adding an additional TSM server to our environment to use for an offsite DR. Basically we would duplicate our onsite data to the new offsite TSM server. How would we go about licensing for the additional server? Or does it matter? There doesn't seem to be any source for authoritative answers to most questions about TSM licensing. However, my best guess is as follows: You will need value units for the system hosting the new offsite server, unless you already have the system licensed for some reason. You will need the same number of value units you would need if you going to install TSM client software on the same hardware and have it send backups to an existing TSM server. You will not need any additional value units for the client systems that have backups stored on one TSM server now and will have backups stored on two TSM servers in the future.
licensing question
We are thinking about adding an additional TSM server to our environment to use for an offsite DR. Basically we would duplicate our onsite data to the new offsite TSM server. How would we go about licensing for the additional server? Or does it matter? Thanks David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155
Age-old licensing question
Hi all I know I started this in a reply to my backing up of virtual machines bit thought it best to start a new thread. My simple question is... how do I find out how much licensing costs? :-) I know it's not that simple though. My basic questions are this... 1) do I need to use the PVU calculations to work out how much a standard BA client license will cost or can I just pay for a standard client license? 2) do I use the PVU calculations to back up virtual machines? 3) are standard BA client licenses cpu based (or PVU)? Thanks in advance Farren This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. John Wiley Sons Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 641132. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ.
Re: Age-old licensing question
It is all based on PVU. For virtual machines you are paying for the number of processors of the ESX server. Gary On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:28 AM, Minns, Farren - Chichester wrote: Hi all I know I started this in a reply to my backing up of virtual machines bit thought it best to start a new thread. My simple question is... how do I find out how much licensing costs? :-) I know it's not that simple though. My basic questions are this... 1) do I need to use the PVU calculations to work out how much a standard BA client license will cost or can I just pay for a standard client license? 2) do I use the PVU calculations to back up virtual machines? 3) are standard BA client licenses cpu based (or PVU)? Thanks in advance Farren This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. John Wiley Sons Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 641132. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ.
Re: Age-old licensing question
Farren, This discussion comes up a few times a year from new and old alike. Here is the link to the PVU table from IBM. It changes regularly. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/passportadvantage/pvu_licensing_for_customers.html Sub-capacity licensing is available for VMs. However, if all your VMs need to be backed up, you are probably better off licensing all the procs on the ESX server. It most cases it is cheaper than licensing each guests processor entitlement. If you only have a few VMs that require backups sub-capacity may be cheaper. TSM license costs are based on PVU per core multiplied by number of cores per client/server. Also take into account whether you are using TSM standard or enterprise edition. A comparison is here. http://www-142.ibm.com/software/dre/hmc/compare.wss?HMC02=C136879G75391P17 Duane -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Minns, Farren - Chichester Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:28 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Age-old licensing question Hi all I know I started this in a reply to my backing up of virtual machines bit thought it best to start a new thread. My simple question is... how do I find out how much licensing costs? :-) I know it's not that simple though. My basic questions are this... 1) do I need to use the PVU calculations to work out how much a standard BA client license will cost or can I just pay for a standard client license? 2) do I use the PVU calculations to back up virtual machines? 3) are standard BA client licenses cpu based (or PVU)? Thanks in advance Farren This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. John Wiley Sons Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 641132. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ.
Re: Age-old licensing question
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this today. I'll pop off and do the maths now :-) Regards Farren -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Ochs, Duane Sent: 28 September 2009 16:28 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Age-old licensing question Farren, This discussion comes up a few times a year from new and old alike. Here is the link to the PVU table from IBM. It changes regularly. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus/passportadvantage/pvu_licensing_for_customers.html Sub-capacity licensing is available for VMs. However, if all your VMs need to be backed up, you are probably better off licensing all the procs on the ESX server. It most cases it is cheaper than licensing each guests processor entitlement. If you only have a few VMs that require backups sub-capacity may be cheaper. TSM license costs are based on PVU per core multiplied by number of cores per client/server. Also take into account whether you are using TSM standard or enterprise edition. A comparison is here. http://www-142.ibm.com/software/dre/hmc/compare.wss?HMC02=C136879G75391P17 Duane -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Minns, Farren - Chichester Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:28 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Age-old licensing question Hi all I know I started this in a reply to my backing up of virtual machines bit thought it best to start a new thread. My simple question is... how do I find out how much licensing costs? :-) I know it's not that simple though. My basic questions are this... 1) do I need to use the PVU calculations to work out how much a standard BA client license will cost or can I just pay for a standard client license? 2) do I use the PVU calculations to back up virtual machines? 3) are standard BA client licenses cpu based (or PVU)? Thanks in advance Farren This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. John Wiley Sons Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 641132. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ. This email (and any attachment) is confidential, may be legally privileged and is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient please do not disclose, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please tell us by reply and delete all copies on your system. Although this email has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. Please note that email traffic data may be monitored and that emails may be viewed for security reasons. John Wiley Sons Limited is a private limited company registered in England with registered number 641132. Registered office address: The Atrium, Southern Gate, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 8SQ.
TSM licensing question.
I am once again burdened with the idiocy that is TSM licensing with all the manual CPU determining, core counting weighted PVU madness that's involved. Just as a favor to others on the list, here are a few links that are helpful in this endeavor: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/lotus/passportadvantage/pvu_licensing_for_customers.html http://www-306.ibm.com/software/lotus/passportadvantage/guide_to_identifying_processor_family.html http://www-306.ibm.com/software/lotus/passportadvantage/IBM_servers_processor_family_identification_support.html https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/passportadvantage/valueunitcalculator/vucalc.wss Anyways, my question is this. I am backing up some very old Pentium 3 servers. What is the cost per core on those? I'd like to think it's valued at 30 PVUs like some of the other old CPUs on the list, but I am afraid it's valued at 100 PVUs, like the other single core CPUs. Anyone have some insight? Thanks, Ben The BCI Email Firewall made the following annotations - *Confidentiality Notice: This E-Mail is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this communication in error, please do not distribute, and delete the original message. Thank you for your compliance. You may contact us at: Blue Cross of Idaho 3000 E. Pine Ave. Meridian, Idaho 83642 1.208.345.4550 -
licensing question on TSM Extended Edition
Hello, I understand the calculation of PVUs and how to derive the $$ for the licensing fees for a node (server) be registered and backed up on tivoli. I have a cluster failover (window os) , one of the server houses two ips ( one is a floater ip) , two nodes using different dsm.opt files, both registered on tivoli, do I have to pay two license fees even though it is the same box? I was told that once the node(s) are live wired onto tivoli, licensing fee will be charged. I am not sure if we have to pay twice because of using different node names for failover. Thank you in advance. Avy Wong Business Continuity Administrator Mohegan Sun 1 Mohegan Sun Blvd Uncasville, CT 06382 (860)862-8164 (cell) (860)961-6976
Re: Licensing question
Given this bill along with the software maintenance contract cost we will probably be forced to do the same. I really like TSM and think it's far superior to most other backup products. It's just to damn expensive! Mark Remeta -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bell, Charles (Chip) Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:20 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Licensing question Yep, that sounds accurate. And much as I like TSM, we are having to look elsewhere to back up our environment. I know IBM probably doesn't care, but not everyone can afford that. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remeta, Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Licensing question I don't know if you remember I had emailed the list a while ago about a audit. Well I guess the reason I was audited was because my software maintenance contract was ending soon. Anyways, I called our IBM representative because there were several items under software maintenance that we were not using anymore and we did not want to pay software maintenance on. To make a long story short, we ended up auditing the entire quote for which I sent him a list of servers, cpus, cores that we were backing up. He had a rep from Tivoli do an analysis and it turns out we had 13 servers that were not licensed to be backed up. Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was quite shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost 39 thousand dollars. This is just the license to back the server up. That works out to about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this about what everyone else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a client backup license... Thanks! Mark Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately. Please be advised that someone other than the intended recipients, including a third-party in the Seligman organization and government agencies, may review all electronic communications to and from this address. - Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named in the address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this information in error, please notify the sender and delete this information from your computer and retain no copies of any of this information. Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately. Please be advised that someone other than the intended recipients, including a third-party in the Seligman organization and government agencies, may review all electronic communications to and from this address.
Licensing question
I don't know if you remember I had emailed the list a while ago about a audit. Well I guess the reason I was audited was because my software maintenance contract was ending soon. Anyways, I called our IBM representative because there were several items under software maintenance that we were not using anymore and we did not want to pay software maintenance on. To make a long story short, we ended up auditing the entire quote for which I sent him a list of servers, cpus, cores that we were backing up. He had a rep from Tivoli do an analysis and it turns out we had 13 servers that were not licensed to be backed up. Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was quite shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost 39 thousand dollars. This is just the license to back the server up. That works out to about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this about what everyone else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a client backup license... Thanks! Mark Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately. Please be advised that someone other than the intended recipients, including a third-party in the Seligman organization and government agencies, may review all electronic communications to and from this address.
Re: Licensing question
Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was quite shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost 39 thousand dollars. This is just the license to back the server up. That works out to about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this about what everyone else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a client backup license... Did you use the IBM link to get the value units yourself Mark? At least this way you can ask a few folks for a quote. https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/passportadvantage/valueunitcal culator/vucalc.wss?jadeAction=EXPERT_ARCHITECTURE Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Licensing question
Ya, we were looking at perhaps purchasing a bunch of licenses to convert a site from Veritas Netbackup to TSM and the number is shocking. Ours come in somewhere a little above $2000 per host on average. Here is the basic CPU configuration of these 291 server-class machines. MFG Server CPU CPU Cores PlatformNumber of hosts. HP DL360 2 4 Linux 23 HP DL360 2 4 Windows 116 HP DL380 2 4 Linux 3 HP DL380 2 4 Windows 21 HP DL385 2 4 Linux 3 HP DL385 2 4 Windows 4 HP DL585 4 8 Linux 8 HP DL585 4 8 VMWare ESX 6 HP DL585 4 8 Windows 33 SUN T2000 1 4 UNIX8 SUN V1251 1 UNIX3 SUN V2452 2 UNIX42 SUN V4454 4 UNIX3 SUN V4904 4 UNIX7 SUN X4600 8 8 Windows 11 291 Because most of them are high end machines with multiple CPUs and multiple cores, the TSM Value licensing is eating us alive. Even after our corporate discount it will be $600,000+ for the TSM licenses and the first 12 months of maintenance. A backup software licensing scheme based on CPU and core count is RETARDED. Some of these are just compute hosts with just the OS being backed up, but we have to pay a VERY large fee because it has a lot of CPU horsepower. Needless to say they are freaked out that it will cost more than half a million just for the software. They are pursuing quotes from other vendors and Tivoli will likely not get this business. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:12 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Licensing question Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was quite shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost 39 thousand dollars. This is just the license to back the server up. That works out to about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this about what everyone else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a client backup license... Did you use the IBM link to get the value units yourself Mark? At least this way you can ask a few folks for a quote. https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/passportadvantage/valueunitcal culator/vucalc.wss?jadeAction=EXPERT_ARCHITECTURE Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Licensing question
Yep, that sounds accurate. And much as I like TSM, we are having to look elsewhere to back up our environment. I know IBM probably doesn't care, but not everyone can afford that. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Remeta, Mark Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:38 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Licensing question I don't know if you remember I had emailed the list a while ago about a audit. Well I guess the reason I was audited was because my software maintenance contract was ending soon. Anyways, I called our IBM representative because there were several items under software maintenance that we were not using anymore and we did not want to pay software maintenance on. To make a long story short, we ended up auditing the entire quote for which I sent him a list of servers, cpus, cores that we were backing up. He had a rep from Tivoli do an analysis and it turns out we had 13 servers that were not licensed to be backed up. Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was quite shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost 39 thousand dollars. This is just the license to back the server up. That works out to about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this about what everyone else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a client backup license... Thanks! Mark Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately. Please be advised that someone other than the intended recipients, including a third-party in the Seligman organization and government agencies, may review all electronic communications to and from this address. - Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named in the address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. If you received this information in error, please notify the sender and delete this information from your computer and retain no copies of any of this information.
Re: Another Licensing question
Licensing: 1 license per physical processor. Different kinds of processors have varying costs. See your dealer. -- Mark Stapleton Berbee (a CDW company) System engineer 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 763-592-5963 www.berbee.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daad Ali Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Any takers for this please? Thanks in Advance. regards, Daad A. Daad Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/ co m.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: Another Licensing question
Any takers for this please? Thanks in Advance. regards, Daad A. Daad Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: Another Licensing question
The page refers to a separate license *file*, which is normally only installed in the default directory for the first instance running. That file must be copied to every directory that acts as the configuration file for each instance running on the same physical server. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Daad Ali Sent: Fri 8/10/2007 1:22 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Thanks Mark, That was my understanding until I saw this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers in this IBM URL http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm And this URL specifically talks about Running Multiple Servers on a Single Machine thanks, Daad Stapleton, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Licensing: 1 license per physical processor. Different kinds of processors have varying costs. See your dealer. -- Mark Stapleton Berbee (a CDW company) System engineer 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 763-592-5963 www.berbee.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daad Ali Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Any takers for this please? Thanks in Advance. regards, Daad A. Daad Ali wrote: Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/ co m.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - All new Yahoo! Mail - Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.
Re: Another Licensing question
Thanks Mark, That was my understanding until I saw this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers in this IBM URL http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm And this URL specifically talks about Running Multiple Servers on a Single Machine thanks, Daad Stapleton, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Licensing: 1 license per physical processor. Different kinds of processors have varying costs. See your dealer. -- Mark Stapleton Berbee (a CDW company) System engineer 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 763-592-5963 www.berbee.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daad Ali Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Any takers for this please? Thanks in Advance. regards, Daad A. Daad Ali wrote: Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/ co m.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - All new Yahoo! Mail - Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page.
Re: Another Licensing question
Thanks for the clarificationMakes a lot more sense. Best regards, Daad Stapleton, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The page refers to a separate license *file*, which is normally only installed in the default directory for the first instance running. That file must be copied to every directory that acts as the configuration file for each instance running on the same physical server. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Daad Ali Sent: Fri 8/10/2007 1:22 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Thanks Mark, That was my understanding until I saw this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers in this IBM URL http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm And this URL specifically talks about Running Multiple Servers on a Single Machine thanks, Daad Stapleton, Mark wrote: Licensing: 1 license per physical processor. Different kinds of processors have varying costs. See your dealer. -- Mark Stapleton Berbee (a CDW company) System engineer 7145 Boone Avenue North, Suite 140 Brooklyn Park MN 55428-1511 763-592-5963 www.berbee.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daad Ali Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:04 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Another Licensing question Any takers for this please? Thanks in Advance. regards, Daad A. Daad Ali wrote: Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/ co m.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail - All new Yahoo! Mail - Get news delivered. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.
Another Licensing question
Hello TSMers, I need some clarification on the following: If I run 2 instances on my TSM server (AIX 5.3 TSM 5.4) and I have 4 CPUs on that server, will I be charged for 8 CPU licenses. I found this note: Note: You need a separate license for each unique instance of the server in order to run additional servers. on http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tivihelp/v1r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.itsmfdt.doc/anrai5330.htm Initially, I was under the impression, that I will only be charged for more licensing if I create another instance on another LPAR. Your input is always appreciated. Thanks, Daad - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail
Re: TSM licensing question
Physical CPU's/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/06 11:56 PM I have been told that TSM licensing is done by number of CPU's not number of servers. If we have a number of virtual servers on VM Ware systems, is the TSM licensing calculated by the number of physical CPU's or the number of virtual CPU's? Regards Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
Re: TSM licensing question
Paul Dudley a écrit : I have been told that TSM licensing is done by number of CPU's not number of servers. If we have a number of virtual servers on VM Ware systems, is the TSM licensing calculated by the number of physical CPU's or the number of virtual CPU's? Regards Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person. Physical CPU !
TSM licensing question
I have been told that TSM licensing is done by number of CPU's not number of servers. If we have a number of virtual servers on VM Ware systems, is the TSM licensing calculated by the number of physical CPU's or the number of virtual CPU's? Regards Paul Paul Dudley ANL IT Operations Dept. ANL Container Line [EMAIL PROTECTED] ANL DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any file attached is confidential, and intended solely to the named addressees. Any unauthorised dissemination or use is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail from your system. Please do not copy, use or make reference to it for any purpose, or disclose its contents to any person.
Re: TSM Licensing Question
On Fri, Oct 15, 2004 at 03:12:24PM -0400, Prather, Wanda wrote: You can't download base 5.2, you will need the CD to get the license files. You *can* download base levels, including 5.2. If you have a Passport Advantage contract, you can download software from the Passport Advantage website. -- Jurjen Oskam I often reflect that if privileges had been called responsibilities or duties, I would have saved thousands of hours explaining to people why they were only gonna get them over my dead body. - Lee K. Gleason, VMS sysadmin
TSM Licensing Question
I have a quick question on TSM Server Licensing. Going from 5.1 to 5.2, is that chargeable (license payment required)? I know 3.x to 4.x was chargeable, and 4.x to 5.x was, but is 5.x to 5.x+1 or 5.x+2 chargeable? -Tom
Re: TSM Licensing Question
Yes, unless you are on a yearly maintenance contract, in which case the upgrade should be covered. If you have 5.1, but they didn't ship you 5.2, that's an indication that you probably were not covered at the time. You can't download base 5.2, you will need the CD to get the license files. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Melton Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM Licensing Question I have a quick question on TSM Server Licensing. Going from 5.1 to 5.2, is that chargeable (license payment required)? I know 3.x to 4.x was chargeable, and 4.x to 5.x was, but is 5.x to 5.x+1 or 5.x+2 chargeable? -Tom
licensing question
when I do a q lic, my licensing is valid. But when I look in my nodes table, I see I have 90 client nodes registered. Why the discrepancy? tsm: q lic Last License Audit: 08/13/04 01:52:47 Number of space management clients in use: 0 Number of space management clients licensed: 0 Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager in use ?: Yes Is Tivoli Disaster Recovery Manager licensed ?: Yes Number of TDP for Oracle in use: 0 Number of TDP for Oracle licensed: 0 Number of TDP for Oracle in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for MS SQL Server in use: 3 Number of TDP for MS SQL Server licensed: 3 Number of TDP for MS SQL Server in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for MS Exchange in use: 1 Number of TDP for MS Exchange licensed: 1 Number of TDP for MS Exchange in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Notes in use: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Notes licensed: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Notes in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Domino in use: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Domino licensed: 0 Number of TDP for Lotus Domino in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for Informix in use: 0 Number of TDP for Informix licensed: 0 Number of TDP for Informix in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for SAP R/3 in use: 0 Number of TDP for SAP R/3 licensed: 0 Number of TDP for SAP R/3 in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for ESS in use: 0 Number of TDP for ESS licensed: 0 Number of TDP for ESS in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for ESS R/3 in use: 0 Number of TDP for ESS R/3 licensed: 0 Number of TDP for ESS R/3 in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix in use: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix licensed: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix R/3 in use: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix R/3 licensed: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix R/3 in try buy mode: 0 Is Library Sharing in use: No Is Library Sharing licensed: No Number of Managed System for LAN in use: 74 Number of Managed System for LAN licensed: 74 Number of Managed System for SAN in use: 0 more... (ENTER to continue, 'C' to cancel) Number of Managed System for SAN licensed: 0 Number of Managed Libraries in use: 1 Number of Managed Libraries licensed: 1 Tivoli Data Protection for NDMP in use ?: No Tivoli Data Protection for NDMP licensed ?: No Server License Compliance: Valid tsm: tsm: select count(*) from nodes Unnamed[1] --- 90 tsm: select domain_name,count(*) from nodes group by domain_name DOMAIN_NAME Unnamed[2] -- --- AIXDOM 17 EXCHDOM 1 NTDOM 68 UNIXDOM 4
Re: Upgrade LAN FREE Licensing Question
In the past there were two different clients: MgSysLAN (B/A Client only) and MgSysSAN (B/A Client + Storage Agent). For the server you will need Library Sharing feature. Since ITSM v5.1 the licensing was modified: B/A Client is part of either IBM TSM or ITSM Extended Edition. To get Storage Agent you need ITSM for SAN license on top of ITSM or ITSM XE license. Library Sharing now is not a separately licenseable feature but is part of ITSM Extended Edition. Thus you need ITSM XE processors for both client and server + ITSM for SAN processors for the client. You cannot get lan-free client, you get lan-free (ITSM for SAN) on top of client (ITSM XE). Plus your server needs to be licensed for ITSM XE, and because server and client cannot intermix ITSM and ITSM XE, the client has to be ITSM XE. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Kamp, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 28.10.2003 16:36 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Upgrade LAN FREE Licensing Question In the process of bringing a SAN into my environment. I know I need a lan free client but is there a new piece that I need to purchase for the TSM server side? Also is the lan free client the only piece that I need for the client side or does it require a backup client? Thanks, -- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P: (954) 987-2020 x4597 F: (954) 985-1404 ---
Upgrade LAN FREE Licensing Question
In the process of bringing a SAN into my environment. I know I need a lan free client but is there a new piece that I need to purchase for the TSM server side? Also is the lan free client the only piece that I need for the client side or does it require a backup client? Thanks, -- Bruce Kamp Midrange Systems Analyst II Memorial Healthcare System E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P: (954) 987-2020 x4597 F: (954) 985-1404 ---
Re: TSM Licensing question Veritas Volume Manager Question
Answer 1: The licenses you are asking for are irrelevant to SAN. They can be used in both LAN and LAN-free scenarios. The FlashCopy feature of IBM ESS and TimeFinder feature of EMC Symmetrix allow snapshot copy to be made at the disk array. Later this copy can be used for backups and other purposes. TDP for ESS and TDP for Symmetrix (both are now part of IBM TSM for Hardware) automate the snapshot creation process and the backups of these snapshots taken from DB2, Oracle and R/3. Answer 2: TSM does not iteract with the LVM. TSM creates backups from files, directories, filesystems and raw devices. TSM for ... also iteract with different application but again have no contact with the LVM used. The impact is just like the question does TSM support IDE or only SCSI disks. Consequentially TSM can perform both LAN and LAN-free backups from those files and applications. If you are asking about Veritas filesystem, it is different story - TSM B/A Client for Sun Solaris supports VxFS, and in ITSM v5.2 VxFS is also supported on AIX. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Lawrence Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15.08.2003 17:12 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:TSM Licensing question Veritas Volume Manager Question Licensing question: We are considering implementing a SAN. Lan free backups are enabled on a SAN using the storage agent, which could be any of several vendors SANs. What then is the purpose of these licenses?: Number of TDP for ESS in use: 0 Number of TDP for ESS licensed: 0 Number of TDP for ESS in try buy mode: 0 mber of TDP for ESS R/3 in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix in use: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix licensed: 0 Veritas Volume Manager Question: Since we have a number of AIX and Windows 2000 machines that will be participating on the SAN, it has been suggested we consider implementing Veritas's Volume Manager. Has anyone any experience with this product along with TSM? -Since it replaces AIX LVM and Windows 2000 system, does it invalidate previously existing backups and archives in these environments? - Can it be used in a SAN with the storage agent for LAN - free backups. Any experience with VVM with TSM / SAN would be welcome.
TSM Licensing question Veritas Volume Manager Question
Licensing question: We are considering implementing a SAN. Lan free backups are enabled on a SAN using the storage agent, which could be any of several vendors SANs. What then is the purpose of these licenses?: Number of TDP for ESS in use: 0 Number of TDP for ESS licensed: 0 Number of TDP for ESS in try buy mode: 0 mber of TDP for ESS R/3 in try buy mode: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix in use: 0 Number of TDP for EMC Symmetrix licensed: 0 Veritas Volume Manager Question: Since we have a number of AIX and Windows 2000 machines that will be participating on the SAN, it has been suggested we consider implementing Veritas's Volume Manager. Has anyone any experience with this product along with TSM? -Since it replaces AIX LVM and Windows 2000 system, does it invalidate previously existing backups and archives in these environments? - Can it be used in a SAN with the storage agent for LAN - free backups. Any experience with VVM with TSM / SAN would be welcome.
Licensing question (technical, not pricing :-)
Hi, I've just upgraded a TSM server 4.2.1.9 running on W2K to version 5.1.6.2, but I think I did something wrong. I directly installed 5.1.6.2 on 4.2.1.9 without installing any intermediate version. After it I found that the TSM server was not able to load adsmlicn.dll. I installed the licensing component from 5.1.5.0, so the server now loads the dll, but all my licenses have disappeared. Furthermore I cannot register any license now. Anybody has an idea what can I do now? Thanks in advance, Imre
Re: Licensing question (technical, not pricing :-)
I did it once in test. In my mind the process is : Upgrade 4.2 to 5.1 then check License Upgrate 5.1 to 5.1.5 then check license Update 5.1.5 to 5.1.6.2 than check license I'm not sure but when you used the Installation CD there is a specific setup for license in those step. Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: Imre Kloknicer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Licensing question (technical, not pricing :-) Hi, I've just upgraded a TSM server 4.2.1.9 running on W2K to version 5.1.6.2, but I think I did something wrong. I directly installed 5.1.6.2 on 4.2.1.9 without installing any intermediate version. After it I found that the TSM server was not able to load adsmlicn.dll. I installed the licensing component from 5.1.5.0, so the server now loads the dll, but all my licenses have disappeared. Furthermore I cannot register any license now. Anybody has an idea what can I do now? Thanks in advance, Imre
LICENSING QUESTION
Hello Everyone !!! Question...I have 50 licenses for clientsmy question is how do I remove clients from being licensed?? Nodes that have been deleted are showing up as being licensed. Thanks much, Joyce
Re: LICENSING QUESTION
Hi Joyce, If you have more defined licenses than purchased and ... want to be clean with IBM, just remove the nodelock file in the server's bin directory and Re-register the correct number you need. rv -Message d'origine- De : Joyce Woods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoy : vendredi 20 avril 2001 15:24 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : LICENSING QUESTION Hello Everyone !!! Question...I have 50 licenses for clientsmy question is how do I remove clients from being licensed?? Nodes that have been deleted are showing up as being licensed. Thanks much, Joyce
