Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-12 Thread Ritter, John M
I had the same problem and offsitereclaimlimit=20 (or whatever you want
to limit it to) worked for me.

In my particular situation my server is 5.4.1.0 (I know, very old!)
running on AIX 5.3 (5300-09-01-0847).  I have a few (less than 5-10)
tapes at a 99% reclaimable level in my offsite COPYPOOL01 tapes, but
about 500 tapes that are 98% reclaimable.  If I do NOT specify a
offsitereclaimlimit number it seems to process tapes to reclaim at about
3 tapes per minute.  So for 500 tapes it just sits there for about 3
HOURS before it even starts mounting tapes to start the reclamation.

 I stumbled onto how useful this particular option was about  3 or 4
months ago thanks to this forum, before that I didn't have a clue what
it was supposed to be used for.  Limiting it to 20 tapes lets it
actually start mounting tapes and moving files in about 6 or 7 minutes.

I also noted that in a recent posting in this forum, IBM has fixed the
order in which tapes are reclaimed, and if you specify something like
90%, it will start with 99% first, then 98%, 97%, and so on until it
finishes or runs out of time.  This solves my biggest gripe about
reclamation that I have had.  I have two new servers that will soon be
in production, and they are running the 6.2 TSM, so they should reclaim
much faster.

John

John M. Ritter
Systems Software Specialist
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Email:  john.rit...@vanderbilt.edu


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Tyree, David
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Subject: Re: reclamation no longer working

I started a reclamation on that pool yesterday afternoon and it sat
there for several hours before it finally started moving anything. 
I guess I got behind doing the reclamation. But that doesn't make any
sense because the offsite pool and the onsite pool have the same
settings and the same content. Only difference is that one goes off
site. 

I use the same settings when I run reclamation on both pools but I run
them at completely different times and the times don't overlap. When I
run the onsite copypool script the process starts without delay. The
same settings for the offsite copypool takes forever to actually kick
off. 

I guess I'll need to keep a closer eye on things

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Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:17 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

 On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400, Tyree, David
david.ty...@sgmc.org said:

 I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points up
 to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points.


Try running one at 99% and _no_ time limit, and expect it to run for
days.

There's a huge amount of bookkeeping work TSM does at the outset.  If
you've gotten yourself stuck somewhere, and lots of time has passed,
you may have a large backlog.  In that case, trying little nibbles is
the only way to go.

You could also approach this from the

-OFFSITERECLAIMLimit--=--number_of_volumes-

side, limiting it to just a few at a time.


- Allen S. Rout


Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Grigori Solonovitch
 I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too.
 The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. 
 Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives 
 online and plenty of mount points.


Have you tried to use straight command in foreground mode move data volume 
w=y?
What are the results?

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Tyree, David
I started a reclamation on that pool yesterday afternoon and it sat
there for several hours before it finally started moving anything. 
I guess I got behind doing the reclamation. But that doesn't make any
sense because the offsite pool and the onsite pool have the same
settings and the same content. Only difference is that one goes off
site. 

I use the same settings when I run reclamation on both pools but I run
them at completely different times and the times don't overlap. When I
run the onsite copypool script the process starts without delay. The
same settings for the offsite copypool takes forever to actually kick
off. 

I guess I'll need to keep a closer eye on things

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Allen S. Rout
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 2:17 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

 On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400, Tyree, David
david.ty...@sgmc.org said:

 I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points up
 to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points.


Try running one at 99% and _no_ time limit, and expect it to run for
days.

There's a huge amount of bookkeeping work TSM does at the outset.  If
you've gotten yourself stuck somewhere, and lots of time has passed,
you may have a large backlog.  In that case, trying little nibbles is
the only way to go.

You could also approach this from the

-OFFSITERECLAIMLimit--=--number_of_volumes-

side, limiting it to just a few at a time.


- Allen S. Rout


Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Johnny Lea
Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster; but, of 
course, then that data is not offsite.

Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/


Richard, from time to time I've had to do this.  After checking in the tapes 
and updating them to r/o or r/w TSM doesn't always use them for the source on a 
'move data'.  Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.  It acts as if the tapes 
are not in the library even after I've verified them.
Would you know any reason why?
TSM 5.5.3 - LTO4 library.


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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-07 Thread Richard Sims
On May 7, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Johnny Lea wrote:

 Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster; but, 
 of course, then that data is not offsite.
 
Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/
 
 
 Richard, from time to time I've had to do this.  After checking in the tapes 
 and updating them to r/o or r/w TSM doesn't always use them for the source on 
 a 'move data'.  Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.  It acts as if the 
 tapes are not in the library even after I've verified them.
 Would you know any reason why?

In most of the cases I've examined, it is because the now-onsite tape begins 
with a segmented Physical File which is continued from a tape which is not 
available (e.g., marked Offsite), where the reclamation then runs with primary 
storage pool tapes only as it starts by copying the entirety of that first 
Physical File - which takes more time.  A few cases have remained mysterious.

   Richard Simsat Boston University


reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.  

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine. 

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either. 

 

David Tyree 
Interface Analyst 
South Georgia Medical Center 
229.333.1155 

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Rick Adamson
When you query the process or mounts does it state that it is waiting on
a volume (input or output)? It is possible that one of them is
unavailable, and/or mounted by another process.

Thank you,
~Rick


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Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working


TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.  

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine. 

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either. 

 

David Tyree 
Interface Analyst 
South Georgia Medical Center 
229.333.1155 

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Jorge Amil
I recomend you do a move data with 99% tapes.

Regards 

Jorge

 Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400
 From: david.ty...@sgmc.org
 Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 
 TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 
 
 I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
 do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
 would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
 tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 
 
 When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
 q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
 But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
 there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
 the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
 forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
 either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
 up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 
 
 I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
 will do reclamation just fine.  
 
 Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
 using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
 run reclamations just fine. 
 
 Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
 copypool and the onsite copypool either. 
 
  
 
 David Tyree 
 Interface Analyst 
 South Georgia Medical Center 
 229.333.1155 
 
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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Robert Clark
Not necessarily related to the problem, but 5.4.5 includes a change to the
way the TSM serrver selects which offsite volumes to reclaim:

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC57009

[RC]



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TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003.

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized.

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points.

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine.

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either.



David Tyree
Interface Analyst
South Georgia Medical Center
229.333.1155

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
Nope, no mention of waiting on a tape and/or volume

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Rick Adamson
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

When you query the process or mounts does it state that it is waiting on
a volume (input or output)? It is possible that one of them is
unavailable, and/or mounted by another process.

Thank you,
~Rick


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Tyree, David
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:12 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working


TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.  

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine. 

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either. 

 

David Tyree 
Interface Analyst 
South Georgia Medical Center 
229.333.1155 

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Rick Adamson
David,
  Seeing as there have been many, many, fixes since you release I would
consider an upgrade to at least the most recent version of 5.4
As a matter of fact a couple of the 5.4.1.1 apars were reclamation
related.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21273797 

Thank you,
~Rick


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Tyree, David
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:02 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

Nope, no mention of waiting on a tape and/or volume

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Rick Adamson
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

When you query the process or mounts does it state that it is waiting on
a volume (input or output)? It is possible that one of them is
unavailable, and/or mounted by another process.

Thank you,
~Rick


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Tyree, David
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:12 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working


TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.  

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine. 

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either. 

 

David Tyree 
Interface Analyst 
South Georgia Medical Center 
229.333.1155 

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
It's on the calender

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Rick Adamson
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:20 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

David,
  Seeing as there have been many, many, fixes since you release I would
consider an upgrade to at least the most recent version of 5.4
As a matter of fact a couple of the 5.4.1.1 apars were reclamation
related.

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21273797 

Thank you,
~Rick


-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Tyree, David
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 1:02 PM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

Nope, no mention of waiting on a tape and/or volume

-Original Message-
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Rick Adamson
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:29 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

When you query the process or mounts does it state that it is waiting on
a volume (input or output)? It is possible that one of them is
unavailable, and/or mounted by another process.

Thank you,
~Rick


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Tyree, David
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:12 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working


TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 

I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 

When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 

I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
will do reclamation just fine.  

Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
run reclamations just fine. 

Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
copypool and the onsite copypool either. 

 

David Tyree 
Interface Analyst 
South Georgia Medical Center 
229.333.1155 

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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. 

The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. 
Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives 
online and plenty of mount points. 

I would expect it to mount a scratch tape and start moving data primary pool to 
the tape. 

I guess I'll go ahead and do the update to version 5.5.x sooner than I 
planned..

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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Jorge 
Amil
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:59 AM
To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

I recomend you do a move data with 99% tapes.

Regards 

Jorge

 Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400
 From: david.ty...@sgmc.org
 Subject: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working
 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
 
 TSM server 5.4.1.0 running on Windows 2003. 
 
 I have an offsite copypool that has decided to no longer
 do reclamation. I noticed that I had far more tapes in that pool that I
 would have expected. I checked the pct_utilized numbers and saw that the
 tapes varied from 99% down to just 5-6% utilized. 
 
 When I manually run the reclamation process  and then do
 q process I see that I have the right number of processes that start up.
 But the status never changes from showing zero moved files. It just sits
 there like it's thinking about it but never mounts anything. It runs for
 the duration I set then closes out. I also moved the duration back and
 forth from a few minutes to a couple of hours and that didn't help
 either.  I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points
 up to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points. 
 
 I have another onsite tapepool that is identical. But it
 will do reclamation just fine.  
 
 Just for the heck of it I created a new offsite tapepool
 using essentially the same settings as the old pool and it's appears to
 run reclamations just fine. 
 
 Nothing has been changed in the settings for the offsite
 copypool and the onsite copypool either. 
 
  
 
 David Tyree 
 Interface Analyst 
 South Georgia Medical Center 
 229.333.1155 
 
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Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Sims
On May 6, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Tyree, David wrote:

 I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. 
 
 The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes moved. 
 Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount. All drives 
 online and plenty of mount points. 
 
 I would expect it to mount a scratch tape and start moving data primary pool 
 to the tape. 

In my experience, that is a manifestation of the TSM server running through the 
database (you should see a lot of disk activity there) compiling a list of all 
the onsite tapes necessary to represent all the files on the offsite tape which 
is to be reclaimed.  Eventually, this would result in a list of such onsite 
volumes, in ANR1157I messages - if all goes well.  The higher the capacity of 
the offsite tape, and the more remaining unexpired data on it, the longer this 
can take.

Watch for the conclusion of the Move Data in the Activity Log, one way or the 
other; and check for abnormalities reflected in that log during the discovery 
process.  There may be some database problems or unavailable onsite tapes 
thwarting this process.

Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster; but, of 
course, then that data is not offsite.

Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/


Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Allen S. Rout
 On Thu, 6 May 2010 11:11:34 -0400, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org 
 said:

 I've run the threshold up and down from a few percentage points up
 to 80-90% hoping something would change but no difference. I have
 plenty of scratch tapes and mount points.


Try running one at 99% and _no_ time limit, and expect it to run for
days.

There's a huge amount of bookkeeping work TSM does at the outset.  If
you've gotten yourself stuck somewhere, and lots of time has passed,
you may have a large backlog.  In that case, trying little nibbles is
the only way to go.

You could also approach this from the

-OFFSITERECLAIMLimit--=--number_of_volumes-

side, limiting it to just a few at a time.


- Allen S. Rout


Re: reclamation no longer working

2010-05-06 Thread Tyree, David
After about an hour of waiting the move data finally got rolling. 

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Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] reclamation no longer working

On May 6, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Tyree, David wrote:

 I'm doing a move data now. Or trying too. 
 
 The process has been running for about 30 minutes with zero bytes
moved. Nothing showing from a q request, nothing showing from a q mount.
All drives online and plenty of mount points. 
 
 I would expect it to mount a scratch tape and start moving data
primary pool to the tape. 

In my experience, that is a manifestation of the TSM server running
through the database (you should see a lot of disk activity there)
compiling a list of all the onsite tapes necessary to represent all the
files on the offsite tape which is to be reclaimed.  Eventually, this
would result in a list of such onsite volumes, in ANR1157I messages - if
all goes well.  The higher the capacity of the offsite tape, and the
more remaining unexpired data on it, the longer this can take.

Watch for the conclusion of the Move Data in the Activity Log, one way
or the other; and check for abnormalities reflected in that log during
the discovery process.  There may be some database problems or
unavailable onsite tapes thwarting this process.

Bringing offsite tapes back and reclaiming them onsite is much faster;
but, of course, then that data is not offsite.

Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs/