Re: restore image on windows 2000
Hi Andrew It still doesn't work ... Here is the test that I did - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - ONLINE IMAGE of C: drive - modify and delete files, - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - Crash my server - Boot with WIN PE, create partitions, DSMC QUERY IMAGE ... - RESTORE IMAGE \\backupser\c$ C: -arsmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=servername - Reboot - Format D: drive - Restore D: drive with GUI - Restore SYSTEM OBJECT with GUI - Reboot - check the modification I did ... modified files are ok ... but the folder and files that I deleted after the IMAGE BACKUP .. are still there... Is there a bug .. of It's me that doing something wrong Thanks Luc Beaudoin Administrateur Réseau / Network Administrator Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 01:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method that uses the LVSA and does not require a reboot. If you used the offline method, then it is possible that a different node or machine name was used, which have prevented the desired results during the restore. Make sure you are using the online method (which isn't really specific to WinPE). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/24/2005 13:41:59: Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Hi Luc, Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere else, but which TSM client and server versions are you using? (Be sure to give complete version info, i.e. 5.2.3.11, not just 5.2 or 5.2.3). Your procedure looks sound to me. Thanks, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-27 07:33:42: Hi Andrew It still doesn't work ... Here is the test that I did - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - ONLINE IMAGE of C: drive - modify and delete files, - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - Crash my server - Boot with WIN PE, create partitions, DSMC QUERY IMAGE ... - RESTORE IMAGE \\backupser\c$ C: -arsmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=servername - Reboot - Format D: drive - Restore D: drive with GUI - Restore SYSTEM OBJECT with GUI - Reboot - check the modification I did ... modified files are ok ... but the folder and files that I deleted after the IMAGE BACKUP .. are still there... Is there a bug .. of It's me that doing something wrong Thanks Luc Beaudoin Administrateur Réseau / Network Administrator Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 01:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method that uses the LVSA and does not require a reboot. If you used the offline method, then it is possible that a different node or machine name was used, which have prevented the desired results during the restore. Make sure you are using the online method (which isn't really specific to WinPE). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/24/2005 13:41:59: Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Hi TSM SERVER windows 2000 SP4 5.2.0.2 server windows 2000 SP4 TSM client 5.2.3.1 thnaks Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-27 03:44 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Hi Luc, Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere else, but which TSM client and server versions are you using? (Be sure to give complete version info, i.e. 5.2.3.11, not just 5.2 or 5.2.3). Your procedure looks sound to me. Thanks, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-27 07:33:42: Hi Andrew It still doesn't work ... Here is the test that I did - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - ONLINE IMAGE of C: drive - modify and delete files, - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - Crash my server - Boot with WIN PE, create partitions, DSMC QUERY IMAGE ... - RESTORE IMAGE \\backupser\c$ C: -arsmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=servername - Reboot - Format D: drive - Restore D: drive with GUI - Restore SYSTEM OBJECT with GUI - Reboot - check the modification I did ... modified files are ok ... but the folder and files that I deleted after the IMAGE BACKUP .. are still there... Is there a bug .. of It's me that doing something wrong Thanks Luc Beaudoin Administrateur Réseau / Network Administrator Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 01:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method that uses the LVSA and does not require a reboot. If you used the offline method, then it is possible that a different node or machine name was used, which have prevented the desired results during the restore. Make sure you are using the online method (which isn't really specific to WinPE). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/24/2005 13:41:59: Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Luc, One of our senior testers (and co-authoer of the WinPE white paper) ran through your WinPE scenario shared his thoughts with me. He successfully had files deleted following the image portion of the restore. Since the modified files are being restored at the file level following the image restore, at least the -INCREMENTAL option is functioning properly. The files not being deleted may be an issue with the -DELETEFILES option. Some thoughts on what might be going on: When you ran the incremental backup after the image backup, did you see Expiring --- messages for the deleted files? Do the ending statistics reflect expired files? You can verify this by using the command line client to do the backup, and make sure that QUIET mode is not in effect. Note that if you are using the -INCRBYDATE option, the files will not be expired. -DELETEFILES only deletes files, not directories. From your description, you mention that both deleted files and folders (directories) are present after the restore but I figured it is worth noting anyway, just to be sure that we are indeed talking about more than just directories not being deleted. We suspect that the same problem should be recreatable outside of WinPE. While that won't work for your C: drive, can you perform a similar test with just your D: drive? But instead of using WinPE, do the restore under your regular OS. Can you do this with a relatively small amount of data on the D: drive? If so, when you restore D: with the RESTORE IMAGE command (plus -INCREMENTAL and -DELETEFILES) option, make sure you have the following statements in your client options file: tracefile c:\tsmtrace.txt traceflags service (Note that the tracefile statement can point to any drive/file name, as long as it isn't on D:) Open a problem with IBM support and provide the trace to them. Reference this thread on ADSM-L. This should go right to Level 2, let me know if you run into any roadblocks. Sorry this is being so troublesome for you. :-( Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-27 13:49:34: Hi TSM SERVER windows 2000 SP4 5.2.0.2 server windows 2000 SP4 TSM client 5.2.3.1 thnaks Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-27 03:44 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Hi Luc, Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere else, but which TSM client and server versions are you using? (Be sure to give complete version info, i.e. 5.2.3.11, not just 5.2 or 5.2.3). Your procedure looks sound to me. Thanks, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-27 07:33:42: Hi Andrew It still doesn't work ... Here is the test that I did - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - ONLINE IMAGE of C: drive - modify and delete files, - Incremental backup of C: and D: drive - Backup of SYSTEM OBJECT - Crash my server - Boot with WIN PE, create partitions, DSMC QUERY IMAGE ... - RESTORE IMAGE \\backupser\c$ C: -arsmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=servername - Reboot - Format D: drive - Restore D: drive with GUI - Restore SYSTEM OBJECT with GUI - Reboot - check the modification I did ... modified files are ok ... but the folder and files that I deleted after the IMAGE BACKUP .. are still there... Is there a bug .. of It's me that doing something wrong Thanks Luc Beaudoin Administrateur Réseau / Network Administrator Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254 Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 01:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method
Re: restore image on windows 2000
What document are you using ? - Original Message - From: Luc Beaudoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: restore image on windows 2000 Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Hi I'm using this document Tivoli Storafe Mmanager recovery techniques using Windows pre-installation environment (windows PE) nghiatd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 05:14 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 What document are you using ? - Original Message - From: Luc Beaudoin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 3:17 AM Subject: restore image on windows 2000 Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method that uses the LVSA and does not require a reboot. If you used the offline method, then it is possible that a different node or machine name was used, which have prevented the desired results during the restore. Make sure you are using the online method (which isn't really specific to WinPE). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/24/2005 13:41:59: Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Thanks Andrew I will redo my test with an on-line Image ... because with the offline one it doesn't work I tried again ... and the files I deleted after the IMAGE BACKUP are still there after a RESTORE IMAGE -deletefiles I will let you know . Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-25 01:23 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Luc, one of the authors of the white paper happened to be monitoring this thread, and had a question regarding your image bacup step: - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure The white paper mentions two methods: an offline method that boots into WinPE, and an online method that uses the LVSA and does not require a reboot. If you used the offline method, then it is possible that a different node or machine name was used, which have prevented the desired results during the restore. Make sure you are using the online method (which isn't really specific to WinPE). Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 01/24/2005 13:41:59: Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
restore image on windows 2000
Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
Re: restore image on windows 2000
Thanks Andrew I did exactly that procedure ... but it didn't work ... I will try it again just to make sure I didn't forget a step ... but this is what I did - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - IMAGE backup using Windows PE procedure - ADD and DELETE files and folders my C: and D; drive - Full incremental of my C: and D: drive , and system object - Crash my server - Use Windows PE and DISKPART.EXE to rebuil my partitions - Restore image of my C: drive with the -deletefiles option - Reboot - Restore incremental backup of my C: and D: drive - Restore System object - Reboot - On C: drive : all new files are there .. even the one that was deleted - On D: drive : everything is perfect (because it was not an image restore of D:) I will try again Thanks again Luc Andrew Raibeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU 2005-01-24 03:32 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: restore image on windows 2000 Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? I sent this too soon: did you run a full incremental backup *before* the image, then run incremental after the image? You need to start from a full incremental backup, then run image, then subsequent incrementals, in order for the TSM server to keep track of additions to and deletions from the file system. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:28:12: Did you run an incremental backup after the image backup? If you look up the BACKUP IMAGE command in the client manual, you will see a discussion about using image backup along with incremental backups to do what you want. Check out method 1. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2005-01-24 13:17:28: Hi all I'm trying to restore an image of one of my Windows 2000 server Everything goes well except that the files or folders that have been deleted after the image are there ... and I dont want them. .. I did the command : dsmc retore image \\server\c$ c: -asrmode=yes -noprompt -incremental -deletefiles -virtualnode=server I'm using the procedure TSM recovery technique using Windows pre-installation environment I looked into the documentation ... they are talking about this procedure assumes that your backup followed the correct procedure to allow for incremental image restore using the -DELETEFILES option What correct procedure ??? any ideas ? thanks Luc Beaudoin Network Administrator / TSM / SAN Hopital General Juif S.M.B.D. Tel: (514) 340-8222 ext:8254
