Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Hello, We are testing Backup Set restores for GW post offices. In 2 of 6 the restores user files were missing in a directory which are the users mailboxes. We did a point-in-time restore and got the files back. So, somehow the backupset, when created is missing files that exist in the incremental backups. Has anyone encountered this before? Thanks for any help! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell TSM client 5.3.0.12 NW 6.5 SP2 Richard Sims wrote: Tim - Using -Virtualnodename is the standard way to restore data across clients. Try that. Have a look at the Unix client manual, which has better documentation on this point than the Novell one. Richard On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Timothy Hughes wrote: William, Thanks again, Tried it the command is, restore backupset monthlydocgrppoa.410125866 poa:swsp/ DOQCW2\poa:restore/ -subdir=yes That helps, but does not resolve the problem of restoring a backupset where the server from which the set was created no longer exists. Would this mean the client would have to rename and existing server? (not easy in Novell) according to the novell person or build a new server with the former server's name to do a backupset restore? William wrote: Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/ IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Hi, Yes we TSM 5.3.2.1 on W2K3Sp1 Novell client 5.3.2.0 NW 6.5 SP2 Had exactly the same problem and hoped downgrade to 5.3.0.12 would help Suppose we will have to log a call We are using on tsafs /enablegw=true which usually gives us 100% quality on GW backup. Kind Regards Marco Malgarini Malga Consulting Mob.: 0409 918 027 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: www.malgarini.org -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy Hughes Sent: Saturday, 18 March 2006 00:56 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] restoring backup sets from one node to another Hello, We are testing Backup Set restores for GW post offices. In 2 of 6 the restores user files were missing in a directory which are the users mailboxes. We did a point-in-time restore and got the files back. So, somehow the backupset, when created is missing files that exist in the incremental backups. Has anyone encountered this before? Thanks for any help! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell TSM client 5.3.0.12 NW 6.5 SP2 Richard Sims wrote: Tim - Using -Virtualnodename is the standard way to restore data across clients. Try that. Have a look at the Unix client manual, which has better documentation on this point than the Novell one. Richard On Mar 14, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Timothy Hughes wrote: William, Thanks again, Tried it the command is, restore backupset monthlydocgrppoa.410125866 poa:swsp/ DOQCW2\poa:restore/ -subdir=yes That helps, but does not resolve the problem of restoring a backupset where the server from which the set was created no longer exists. Would this mean the client would have to rename and existing server? (not easy in Novell) according to the novell person or build a new server with the former server's name to do a backupset restore? William wrote: Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/ IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Thanks Chris, This may be an option to consider. Chris Pasztor wrote: There is away around this issue and I use it on occasions by defining a new node I call ADHOC, I then by granting the ADHOC node a proxy for the source node I do a selective backup of the files then create the backupset. Then I define the new node on the target server define the backupset and restore it. Chris Pasztor S/390 Systems Programmer/DB2 Database Administrator Mantrack Payroll, HR Service Solutions and Facilities Management Phone: Ph: +61 1800 060 171 DDL: +61 (3) 9541 2605 Fax:: +61 (3) 9562 98221 Cell: 0411 229 151 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: www.mantrack.com http://www.mantrack.com/
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
William, Thanks again, Tried it the command is, restore backupset monthlydocgrppoa.410125866 poa:swsp/ DOQCW2\poa:restore/ -subdir=yes That helps, but does not resolve the problem of restoring a backupset where the server from which the set was created no longer exists. Would this mean the client would have to rename and existing server? (not easy in Novell) according to the novell person or build a new server with the former server's name to do a backupset restore? William wrote: Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Timothy, I do not know how to qalify or quantify what is working and what is not working without more specific info, such as copy paste of the command you are running and the output you are getting. Perhaps what you need to do is prefix the source file name with the original server name, i.e., instead of poa:swsp/, do doqcrps\poa:swsp/ ? Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-14 07:19:55: William, Thanks again, Tried it the command is, restore backupset monthlydocgrppoa.410125866 poa:swsp/ DOQCW2\poa:restore/ -subdir=yes That helps, but does not resolve the problem of restoring a backupset where the server from which the set was created no longer exists. Would this mean the client would have to rename and existing server? (not easy in Novell) according to the novell person or build a new server with the former server's name to do a backupset restore? William wrote: Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm. com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
restoring backup sets from one node to another
I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
William, Thanks.. I believe we are using the original node name and entering the commands from that server. Do we just need to insert the target server minus the Set Access command? William wrote: Yes you can. As Andy said, you must use the original node name. On 3/13/06, Timothy Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, Thanks, Does this mean that we cannot restore a backupset to a different server? Andrew Raibeck wrote: The SET ACCESS and -FROMNODE options do not pertain to backup sets. You cannot use -FROMNODE to restore data from another node's backup sets. You must connect with the node name for which the backup set was created. Also, backup sets contain backup data only; they do not contain archive data. Regards, Andy Andy Raibeck IBM Software Group Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. The command line is your friend. Good enough is the enemy of excellence. ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 2006-03-13 09:08:34: I am having problems restoring a backup set from one node to another. I set access archive * * on node DOQCRPS and tried to restore the same backupset to DOQCW2, but I get the error ANS1934E Backup set 'monthlydocqrppoi.410125866' not found. I checked the backupset name and it is still active and the name is correct. If I try a set access on DOQCRPS that specifies a path (e.g., set access archive poi:/* *) I always get ANS1083E No files have previously been archived for 'poi:/*' The command used that got ANS1934E on CW2 was: restore backupset monthlydoqcrppoi.410125866 poi:swsp/ poi:restore/ -subdir=yes This backupset was created on DOQCRPS and I issued set access archive * * on DOQCRPS before attempting the restore on CW2. But I'm not sure the command is working right because when I try to set access to a specified path, e.g. set access archive poi:/* * I get the other error ANS1083E. We should be able to restore a backupset created on one server to a different server correct? Is there something I am missing? P.S. - Is it just me or is information regarding backups extremely limited? Thanks for any help in advance! TSM 5.3.2.1 Novell client 5.3.0.12 Thanks
Re: restoring backup sets from one node to another
There is away around this issue and I use it on occasions by defining a new node I call ADHOC, I then by granting the ADHOC node a proxy for the source node I do a selective backup of the files then create the backupset. Then I define the new node on the target server define the backupset and restore it. Chris Pasztor S/390 Systems Programmer/DB2 Database Administrator Mantrack Payroll, HR Service Solutions and Facilities Management Phone: Ph: +61 1800 060 171 DDL: +61 (3) 9541 2605 Fax:: +61 (3) 9562 98221 Cell: 0411 229 151 Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: www.mantrack.com http://www.mantrack.com/
