Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
Just a shot in the dark, are you using versions of browsers officially supported by the TIP? (only supports IE7 and Mozilla 3, does not support IE8 or Mozilla 3.5). If so and you still have issues, I'd open a PMR. I think support has traces available for the TIP so they can identify the issue for you. W -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 I just looked at numbers in the host and it's not showing any stress on the server. About the most bump I saw was 10-15% on the CPU. All the other numbers show a very unused box. Policy says that if the vender supports VM then we use it. At this point TSM is not supported on VM so it's staying physical. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You should be able to easily confirm if it is in fact an issue regarding the performance of the ESX server by taking a close look at the performance tab of the VM and ESX host. VMware does a pretty good job of providing performance reporting. Personally, I have kept my TSM servers (and Admin Center) on physical hardware. ~Rick Adamson Jax, Fl. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Both servers respond promptly when I do stuff via linemode. The test box is running on older hardware and a slower network connection but I can't really tell much difference between the two. I do a lot of things via linemode and have always liked it... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
You should be able to easily confirm if it is in fact an issue regarding the performance of the ESX server by taking a close look at the performance tab of the VM and ESX host. VMware does a pretty good job of providing performance reporting. Personally, I have kept my TSM servers (and Admin Center) on physical hardware. ~Rick Adamson Jax, Fl. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Both servers respond promptly when I do stuff via linemode. The test box is running on older hardware and a slower network connection but I can't really tell much difference between the two. I do a lot of things via linemode and have always liked it... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
I just looked at numbers in the host and it's not showing any stress on the server. About the most bump I saw was 10-15% on the CPU. All the other numbers show a very unused box. Policy says that if the vender supports VM then we use it. At this point TSM is not supported on VM so it's staying physical. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You should be able to easily confirm if it is in fact an issue regarding the performance of the ESX server by taking a close look at the performance tab of the VM and ESX host. VMware does a pretty good job of providing performance reporting. Personally, I have kept my TSM servers (and Admin Center) on physical hardware. ~Rick Adamson Jax, Fl. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Both servers respond promptly when I do stuff via linemode. The test box is running on older hardware and a slower network connection but I can't really tell much difference between the two. I do a lot of things via linemode and have always liked it... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
I too had an extensive conversation with IBM/TSM support regarding virtualization support as well as the company wanted to use virtualized TSM servers at our DR site. Their official response was the TSM Server was in fact supported on VMware but due to the I/O demands it needed direct access to the network and any SAN/HBA's. What TSM (or Vmware)did not support was the use of an attached physical tape library. On another note, with the AC machine being virtual it should be easy enough to throw additional resources at it (at least temporarily) to help determine the bottleneck. Good Luck! ~Rick -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 I just looked at numbers in the host and it's not showing any stress on the server. About the most bump I saw was 10-15% on the CPU. All the other numbers show a very unused box. Policy says that if the vender supports VM then we use it. At this point TSM is not supported on VM so it's staying physical. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Adamson Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:43 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You should be able to easily confirm if it is in fact an issue regarding the performance of the ESX server by taking a close look at the performance tab of the VM and ESX host. VMware does a pretty good job of providing performance reporting. Personally, I have kept my TSM servers (and Admin Center) on physical hardware. ~Rick Adamson Jax, Fl. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Tyree, David Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:51 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Both servers respond promptly when I do stuff via linemode. The test box is running on older hardware and a slower network connection but I can't really tell much difference between the two. I do a lot of things via linemode and have always liked it... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
Have you tried to determine there are any network issues between the machine on which browser runs and the machine on which the AdminCenter is running? Are there any network issues between the machine on which the AdminCenter is running and the machine on which the TSM server is running? I see the AdminCenter is pointing at 2 different TSM servers. Do you get the same performance regardless of the TSM server being used? Harry Husfelt From: Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/14/2010 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
The admin center box is running on a ESX VMWare box and our VM admin has swears the network settings are correct. He has this box set up the same as the 30-40 other VM's we have and they are fine as far as network speeds are concerned. The production TSM (5.5) box is running dual gig nics and has been for a couple years. It's day to day performance a TSM server has always been just fine. I would expect issues with the test TSM (6.1) since it's running on old hardware and only has a single 100 meg nic. But it doesn't matter which of the TSM servers I work with through the admin center. It always seems sluggish. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Harry Husfelt Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:52 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Have you tried to determine there are any network issues between the machine on which browser runs and the machine on which the AdminCenter is running? Are there any network issues between the machine on which the AdminCenter is running and the machine on which the TSM server is running? I see the AdminCenter is pointing at 2 different TSM servers. Do you get the same performance regardless of the TSM server being used? Harry Husfelt From: Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org To: ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu Date: 06/14/2010 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager ADSM-L@vm.marist.edu I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
Both servers respond promptly when I do stuff via linemode. The test box is running on older hardware and a slower network connection but I can't really tell much difference between the two. I do a lot of things via linemode and have always liked it... -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Deschner Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:59 AM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender
slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
Re: slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2
Or you could just try entering the linemode commands to do the same thing w/ dsmadmc, and see how long that takes. (e.g. QUERY NODE followed by UPDATE NODE.) SOAPBOX Who knows - you could become a new convert to linemode. They may finally persuade me to install Admin Center when we go to 6.2, but I won't go happily, and I will probably use it as little as possible. I believe in doing simple things simply, which means linemode. /SOAPBOX Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rog...@uic.edu === The command line is your friend. === (stolen from Andy Raibeck) On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Lindsay Morris wrote: I guess you could watch dsmadmc -console output and see how long TSM is taking to respond to the query. Maybe THAT's the bottleneck. Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I've watched the task manager server while I'm doing something within the Admin Center and I'm not seeing much of a bump at all. I'm getting a 70% bump on the server when I first log in to admin center but it quickly drop down to about 4-5%. When I go to modify a client and wait for the processing screen to go away I get 40-50% bump on the server when I first hit the modify button then it drops down to background noise. While I'm waiting several seconds for the processing screen to go away the CPU has already dropped down to nothing. I'm seeing bigger bumps on my local machine but nothing really substantially different. I can't really tell any difference between IE or Firefox. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ads...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Lindsay Morris Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:34 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] slowness with Storage Manager Admin Center 6.2 You can watch task manager as you issue a request. If you see IE (or whatever browser you're using) using low CPU for 10 seconds, then see it busy as the page loads, the slowness is somewhere behind that. If you see if busy all 10-15 seconds, then it's your browser, or browser settings. Try Firefox instead of IE; we've seen that make a huge difference on some web apps. You can do similar tricks watching task manager on the Admin Center box. At least you have a repeatable problem. ;-} Lindsay Morris CEO, TSMworks Tel. 1-859-539-9900 lind...@tsmworks.com On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tyree, David david.ty...@sgmc.org wrote: I'm running a new install of the 6.2.0.0 version of the Storage Manager Admin Center on a VM box. It's loaded on Windows 2008 R2 Standard (64-bit) with a pair of 2.66 GHz CPUs with 4 gig of memory. It's dedicated to TSM support and nothing else is loaded on the machine. It's pointed to a pair of separate TSM servers, the production system running 5.5.4.1 and a test system running 6.1.0.0. According to the product info screen the WebSphere is at 7.5.1.0, Java is Standard Edition IBM Corporation 1.5.0, VM is IBM J9 VM 2.3. The task manager within the OS says the server is not busy at all and appears to have plenty of available power. The numbers from the ESX server also tell me the box isn't being stressed. When I go into the webpage for the Admin Center via IE or Firefox on my desktop (or others) it's just painfully slow. If I want to modify a client node in Client Nodes and Backup Sets tab I have to wait for 10-15 seconds for the page to refresh. Then if I make a change then I have to wait several more seconds for another refresh. And so on. It doesn't matter if I'm hitting the production server or the test server, both take 10-15 seconds for something to happen. I really like the new look of the Admin Center but this is slowness is killing me. Do I have something wrong here? David Tyree Interface Analyst South Georgia Medical Center 229.333.1155 Confidential Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.
