Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-10-10 Thread Khanduja, Opkar

I should also add, this has been fixed to some extent in server 4.2.2.0,
per APAR IC32075. Note that this will not fix any clients where the
problem already exists, but it should prevent the problem from occurring
once the PTF is installed.

This should or it will because i have the same problem happening right now.
Thanks.

O.P.


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I should also add, this has been fixed to some extent in server 4.2.2.0,
per APAR IC32075. Note that this will not fix any clients where the
problem already exists, but it should prevent the problem from occurring
once the PTF is installed.


ABSTRACT:
ANS1357S WHEN CONNECTING WITH NON-UNICODE CLIENT

ERROR DESCRIPTION:
Once a unicode TSM client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000
or V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP client)
has been used to connect to a TSM V4.2 server
with a given node name, that node name can no longer be
used by a non-unicode TSM client.  If you attempt to connect
with that node name using a non-unicode TSM client, you will
receive the following error:
.
You may see the following error:
ANR0428W Session 432 for node ENCRYP (WinNT)
refused - client is down-level with this server version.
..
ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel client code version
.
Any operation attempted by a non-unicode TSM client with this
node name, will fail with the above error message.  For example,
if the V4.2 Windows 2000 client has done queries or restores
for non-unicode filesystems for NODE1 to a V4.2 TSM server,
a V4.1 Windows 2000 client can no longer connect to
that V4.2 server as NODE1.

Initial Impact:  High
LOCAL FIX:
None.

PROBLEM SUMMARY:

* USERS AFFECTED: Non-unicode clients connecting to a V4.2 *
* server once a unicode client (V4.2.0 or  *
* higher Windows NT/2000 or V4.2.1.15 or   *
* higher Windows XP )  has been used to*
* access that server using the non-unicode *
* client's nodename.   *

* PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel*
*  client code version  received after *
*  connecting to server.   *

* RECOMMENDATION: Install the PTF  *

Once a TSM unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) node has connected to a
TSM 4.2.0 or greater server (any platform) using a non-unicode
client's node, the non-unicode client node may no longer
connect to that server. A down level client message is
received.
PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
The TSM  unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) can now be used for queries
and restores, and a lower level or non-unicode 4.2 client can
still connect to the server.  As long as no unicode filespaces
exist, the 4.2 and above TSM server will allow a lower level
or non--unicode V4.2 client to connect to the server.  If any
unicode filespaces exist for a node, a unicode client will be
required to connect to the server.  If any unicode filespaces
exist for a node, and lower level or non-unicode clients
attempt to connect, the connection will be refused, and the
down level client message will be displayed.


Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Matt,

If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous, and
are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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Good enough is the enemy of excellence

Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-31 Thread Mark Stapleton

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Roger Deschner
 We've got half a dozen clients stuck like this right now. The first case
 I had was an important, tenured, and extremely impatient professor who
 had converted from Win 98 to Win XP, decided that XP stinks, and
 wanted to format his hard drive and restore his comfortable old Win 98
 system from ITSM. (This is what backup is for, right?) Because this was
 basically a point-in-time restore, deleting the node was not a possible
 strategy. He was incredulous that it took me several days of
 communication with IBM support to straighten it out and peppered me with
 emails demanding that I work faster on it the whole time I was
 exchanging special commands and their outputs.

Sounds to me like you need an SLA that stipulates what happens when people
backgrade *anything*. Something in the realm of expect problems and no
time limit on fixing things...

 The second was an aggressively confused user who was backing up two
 computers using one node, and who thereby un-did the fix mere hours
 after I had spent several hours with IBM Support fixing it. I refused to
 fix it again for this user and made their node restore-only until I
 communicated with their supervisor about our one computer per node
 policies.

*sigh* ...and another patch on the SLA that voids your responsibility when
the user does something that none too bright.

 I really wish the existence of a correcting APAR was made more public.
 I'm going to install it soon (today!), but I'll still have those half
 dozen clients who appear to have unicode cooties to untangle.

 Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
 that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
 some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.

If I had a script that I was told would either fix everything or destroy the
database, I'd have to put that puppy back in its box and say, No, thank
you.

Every TSM environment is different (often radically so). It's a very complex
piece of software, and, being almost infinitely configurable, is also almost
infinitely capable of destruction.

You're a better man than I, Gunga Din. I wouldn't work in an academic shop
for any amount of money.

--
Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Certified TSM consultant
Certified AIX system engineer
MCSE



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-31 Thread Mark Stapleton

From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Zlatko Krastev/ACIT
 Looking at the length of this thread and shaking my memory this question
 might be a good candidate for the Monthly FAQ (Mark, what do you think ?)

Great minds think alike! ;o)

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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread Remco Post

On donderdag, augustus 29, 2002, at 04:47 , Ike Maurice Hunley wrote:

 What's the FTP site for TSM server upgrade code?


read the faq mails in the archive Monthly faq posting or something
like that

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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread Murthy V Gongala

Ike,

The URL for TSM Server Upgrades is

ftp://service.boulder.ibm.com/storage/tivoli-storage-management/maintenance/

V S Murthy Gongala
Bangalore, INDIA
Tel : 91-80-5094232



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread Roger Deschner

We've got half a dozen clients stuck like this right now. The first case
I had was an important, tenured, and extremely impatient professor who
had converted from Win 98 to Win XP, decided that XP stinks, and
wanted to format his hard drive and restore his comfortable old Win 98
system from ITSM. (This is what backup is for, right?) Because this was
basically a point-in-time restore, deleting the node was not a possible
strategy. He was incredulous that it took me several days of
communication with IBM support to straighten it out and peppered me with
emails demanding that I work faster on it the whole time I was
exchanging special commands and their outputs.

The second was an aggressively confused user who was backing up two
computers using one node, and who thereby un-did the fix mere hours
after I had spent several hours with IBM Support fixing it. I refused to
fix it again for this user and made their node restore-only until I
communicated with their supervisor about our one computer per node
policies.

I have not even begun to figure out the rest, because I know it is a
huge black hole for my time. Before I even call Support, I've got to
reach each end-user and figure out how they caused this, to insure that
they don't inadvertently un-do it after we (me and Support) spend
several hours fixing it.

Those who would want to try the solution on their own are misguided; it
cannot be done - Andy Raibeck is absolutely correct in this regard. You
must call Tivoli Support, but while they will be able to help, it will
be a lengthly and complicated process. Budget several hours per case.
And type carefully!!!

I really wish the existence of a correcting APAR was made more public.
I'm going to install it soon (today!), but I'll still have those half
dozen clients who appear to have unicode cooties to untangle.

Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread Andy Raibeck


Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.


Coincidentally, I just had that conversation with one of our server
developers, and they will look into doing this (no commitment right now,
but the odds are pretty good).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




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We've got half a dozen clients stuck like this right now. The first case
I had was an important, tenured, and extremely impatient professor who
had converted from Win 98 to Win XP, decided that XP stinks, and
wanted to format his hard drive and restore his comfortable old Win 98
system from ITSM. (This is what backup is for, right?) Because this was
basically a point-in-time restore, deleting the node was not a possible
strategy. He was incredulous that it took me several days of
communication with IBM support to straighten it out and peppered me with
emails demanding that I work faster on it the whole time I was
exchanging special commands and their outputs.

The second was an aggressively confused user who was backing up two
computers using one node, and who thereby un-did the fix mere hours
after I had spent several hours with IBM Support fixing it. I refused to
fix it again for this user and made their node restore-only until I
communicated with their supervisor about our one computer per node
policies.

I have not even begun to figure out the rest, because I know it is a
huge black hole for my time. Before I even call Support, I've got to
reach each end-user and figure out how they caused this, to insure that
they don't inadvertently un-do it after we (me and Support) spend
several hours fixing it.

Those who would want to try the solution on their own are misguided; it
cannot be done - Andy Raibeck is absolutely correct in this regard. You
must call Tivoli Support, but while they will be able to help, it will
be a lengthly and complicated process. Budget several hours per case.
And type carefully!!!

I really wish the existence of a correcting APAR was made more public.
I'm going to install it soon (today!), but I'll still have those half
dozen clients who appear to have unicode cooties to untangle.

Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread Zlatko Krastev/ACIT

Looking at the length of this thread and shaking my memory this question
might be a good candidate for the Monthly FAQ (Mark, what do you think ?)
And maybe Gianluca can quote how many times this happened without being
reported on the list.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant




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Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.


Coincidentally, I just had that conversation with one of our server
developers, and they will look into doing this (no commitment right now,
but the odds are pretty good).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Roger Deschner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We've got half a dozen clients stuck like this right now. The first case
I had was an important, tenured, and extremely impatient professor who
had converted from Win 98 to Win XP, decided that XP stinks, and
wanted to format his hard drive and restore his comfortable old Win 98
system from ITSM. (This is what backup is for, right?) Because this was
basically a point-in-time restore, deleting the node was not a possible
strategy. He was incredulous that it took me several days of
communication with IBM support to straighten it out and peppered me with
emails demanding that I work faster on it the whole time I was
exchanging special commands and their outputs.

The second was an aggressively confused user who was backing up two
computers using one node, and who thereby un-did the fix mere hours
after I had spent several hours with IBM Support fixing it. I refused to
fix it again for this user and made their node restore-only until I
communicated with their supervisor about our one computer per node
policies.

I have not even begun to figure out the rest, because I know it is a
huge black hole for my time. Before I even call Support, I've got to
reach each end-user and figure out how they caused this, to insure that
they don't inadvertently un-do it after we (me and Support) spend
several hours fixing it.

Those who would want to try the solution on their own are misguided; it
cannot be done - Andy Raibeck is absolutely correct in this regard. You
must call Tivoli Support, but while they will be able to help, it will
be a lengthly and complicated process. Budget several hours per case.
And type carefully!!!

I really wish the existence of a correcting APAR was made more public.
I'm going to install it soon (today!), but I'll still have those half
dozen clients who appear to have unicode cooties to untangle.

Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-29 Thread William F. Colwell

Roger, when I had to untangle the unicode cooties, I contacted
level 1  then 2 and got the unsupported commands to do it.
But they also told me that an export, delete node, import process
would do the trick to because the one nasty bit wasn't exported
or wasn't imported or something to that effect.

If the nodes aren't too big, this may be a simple way to solve
the problem without interacting with the users.

Hope this helps,

Bill

At 12:03 PM 8/29/2002, you wrote:
We've got half a dozen clients stuck like this right now. The first case
I had was an important, tenured, and extremely impatient professor who
had converted from Win 98 to Win XP, decided that XP stinks, and
wanted to format his hard drive and restore his comfortable old Win 98
system from ITSM. (This is what backup is for, right?) Because this was
basically a point-in-time restore, deleting the node was not a possible
strategy. He was incredulous that it took me several days of
communication with IBM support to straighten it out and peppered me with
emails demanding that I work faster on it the whole time I was
exchanging special commands and their outputs.

The second was an aggressively confused user who was backing up two
computers using one node, and who thereby un-did the fix mere hours
after I had spent several hours with IBM Support fixing it. I refused to
fix it again for this user and made their node restore-only until I
communicated with their supervisor about our one computer per node
policies.

I have not even begun to figure out the rest, because I know it is a
huge black hole for my time. Before I even call Support, I've got to
reach each end-user and figure out how they caused this, to insure that
they don't inadvertently un-do it after we (me and Support) spend
several hours fixing it.

Those who would want to try the solution on their own are misguided; it
cannot be done - Andy Raibeck is absolutely correct in this regard. You
must call Tivoli Support, but while they will be able to help, it will
be a lengthly and complicated process. Budget several hours per case.
And type carefully!!!

I really wish the existence of a correcting APAR was made more public.
I'm going to install it soon (today!), but I'll still have those half
dozen clients who appear to have unicode cooties to untangle.

Would it be possible to provide a safe and tested script, or an APAR
that introduces a new secret command, that can untangle this mess in
some automated way? The current method of fixing it is way too costly.

Roger Deschner  University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
Bill Colwell
C. S. Draper Lab
Cambridge Ma.



Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM

Hi Oscar!
I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this. If I
remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client status
in the TSM database.
I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

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Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


Hi All,

Situation :

NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
running
with 4.2.1.7.

Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the same
time
some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
from
their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get the
message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

But now my problem :

There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
anymore.
Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
(Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

Thanx,

Oscar Kolsteren
Postbank NV
Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread MacMurray, Andrea (CC-ETS Ent Storage Svcs)

Hello,
Please, let me know what the fix is, we have had this problem in the past
and we reinstalled some clients.

Thanks

Andrea Mac Murray
ConAgra Foods
(402) 577 - 3603
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Hmm,

this troubles me a bit. It's a good thing to warn people about the
dangers of certain operations, especially those infrequently used. OTOH
I don't think not documenting those in the manual is the right approach,
better to have good documentation than to have to explain these things
over the phone when the procedure is needed...

On woensdag, augustus 28, 2002, at 04:43 , Andy Raibeck wrote:

 Matt,

 If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
 support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous,
 and
 are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

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 I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
 patching or correcting this.

 Thanks,

 Matt

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 From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi Oscar!
 I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this.
 If I
 remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client
 status
 in the TSM database.
 I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
 Kindest regards,
 Eric van Loon
 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

 -Original Message-
 From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi All,

 Situation :

 NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
 running
 with 4.2.1.7.

 Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the
 same
 time
 some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

 If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
 from
 their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get
 the
 message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

 When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

 This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

 But now my problem :

 There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
 anymore.
 Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
 (Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

 Thanx,

 Oscar Kolsteren
 Postbank NV
 Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Large, Matthew

Remco,

I can understand IBM's desire not to have the most potentially dangerous
commands available to everyone. I'm not sure they'd be too happy being
expected to fix a problem that was actually created by a customers
mistake(s) with these commands.
Try and think about it from their point-of-view.

If it were your product, would you give your customers the ability to break
it and have them come to you for support? Supporting the product itself is
complex enough without adding the 'customer messed with it' factor.

Just a thought - I was there.

Matthew

Matthew Large
TSM Infrastructure Engineer
Lavington Street
Int: 7430 4995
Ext: +44 207 902 4995


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Hmm,

this troubles me a bit. It's a good thing to warn people about the
dangers of certain operations, especially those infrequently used. OTOH
I don't think not documenting those in the manual is the right approach,
better to have good documentation than to have to explain these things
over the phone when the procedure is needed...

On woensdag, augustus 28, 2002, at 04:43 , Andy Raibeck wrote:

 Matt,

 If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
 support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous,
 and
 are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

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 I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
 patching or correcting this.

 Thanks,

 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi Oscar!
 I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this.
 If I
 remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client
 status
 in the TSM database.
 I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
 Kindest regards,
 Eric van Loon
 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

 -Original Message-
 From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi All,

 Situation :

 NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
 running
 with 4.2.1.7.

 Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the
 same
 time
 some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

 If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
 from
 their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get
 the
 message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

 When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

 This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

 But now my problem :

 There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
 anymore.
 Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
 (Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

 Thanx,

 Oscar Kolsteren
 Postbank NV
 Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Stewart, Curtis

Call IBM. In our case the fix involved manually changing values in the TSM
database. It's not something I'd want to do without Tivoli Support on the
other end of the phone. We actually ran some commands, and sent them the
output. Then, they called back and talked us through the exact steps to
take. The problem was fixed rather quickly once we got them involved.

Curtis Stewart
TSM Administrator

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Hello,
Please, let me know what the fix is, we have had this problem in the past
and we reinstalled some clients.

Thanks

Andrea Mac Murray
ConAgra Foods
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Hmm,

this troubles me a bit. It's a good thing to warn people about the
dangers of certain operations, especially those infrequently used. OTOH
I don't think not documenting those in the manual is the right approach,
better to have good documentation than to have to explain these things
over the phone when the procedure is needed...

On woensdag, augustus 28, 2002, at 04:43 , Andy Raibeck wrote:

 Matt,

 If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
 support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous,
 and
 are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




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 I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
 patching or correcting this.

 Thanks,

 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi Oscar!
 I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this.
 If I
 remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client
 status
 in the TSM database.
 I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
 Kindest regards,
 Eric van Loon
 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

 -Original Message-
 From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi All,

 Situation :

 NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
 running
 with 4.2.1.7.

 Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the
 same
 time
 some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

 If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
 from
 their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get
 the
 message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

 When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

 This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

 But now my problem :

 There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
 anymore.
 Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
 (Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

 Thanx,

 Oscar Kolsteren
 Postbank NV
 Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Gianluca Mariani1

Matthew,
can I propose you for Customer of the year award? It's difficult to try
to get this across, but support is more complex than it seems...

Cordiali saluti
Gianluca Mariani
Tivoli TSM Global Response Team, Roma
Via Sciangai 53, Roma
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Remco,

I can understand IBM's desire not to have the most potentially dangerous
commands available to everyone. I'm not sure they'd be too happy being
expected to fix a problem that was actually created by a customers
mistake(s) with these commands.
Try and think about it from their point-of-view.

If it were your product, would you give your customers the ability to break
it and have them come to you for support? Supporting the product itself is
complex enough without adding the 'customer messed with it' factor.

Just a thought - I was there.

Matthew

Matthew Large
TSM Infrastructure Engineer
Lavington Street
Int: 7430 4995
Ext: +44 207 902 4995


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Hmm,

this troubles me a bit. It's a good thing to warn people about the
dangers of certain operations, especially those infrequently used. OTOH
I don't think not documenting those in the manual is the right approach,
better to have good documentation than to have to explain these things
over the phone when the procedure is needed...

On woensdag, augustus 28, 2002, at 04:43 , Andy Raibeck wrote:

 Matt,

 If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
 support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous,
 and
 are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

 Regards,

 Andy

 Andy Raibeck
 IBM Software Group
 Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
 Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
 Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

 The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
 The command line is your friend.
 Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




 Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
 patching or correcting this.

 Thanks,

 Matt

 -Original Message-
 From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi Oscar!
 I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this.
 If I
 remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client
 status
 in the TSM database.
 I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
 Kindest regards,
 Eric van Loon
 KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

 -Original Message-
 From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:17
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


 Hi All,

 Situation :

 NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
 running
 with 4.2.1.7.

 Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the
 same
 time
 some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

 If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
 from
 their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get
 the
 message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

 When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

 This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

 But now my problem :

 There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
 anymore.
 Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
 (Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

 Thanx

tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Oscar Kolsteren

Hi All,

Situation :

NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server running
with 4.2.1.7.

Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the same time
some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server from
their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get the
message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

But now my problem :

There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine anymore.
Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
(Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

Thanx,

Oscar Kolsteren
Postbank NV
Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage)

We did experience the problem, but fortunately were able to just upgrade the
clients in question.  I was curious as to if the resolution was a fairly
easy correction.  Obviously it is not.

Thanks for your response.

Matt

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Matt,

If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous, and
are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
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I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
patching or correcting this.

Thanks,

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version


Hi Oscar!
I've read on this list some time ago that there is a way to fix this. If I
remember correctly it has something to do with patching the client
status
in the TSM database.
I would recommend contacting Tivoli Support and opening a PMR.
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

-Original Message-
From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:17
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


Hi All,

Situation :

NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
running
with 4.2.1.7.

Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the
same
time
some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
from
their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get
the
message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

But now my problem :

There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
anymore.
Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
(Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

Thanx,

Oscar Kolsteren
Postbank NV
Netherlands


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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Andy Raibeck

I should also add, this has been fixed to some extent in server 4.2.2.0,
per APAR IC32075. Note that this will not fix any clients where the
problem already exists, but it should prevent the problem from occurring
once the PTF is installed.


ABSTRACT:
ANS1357S WHEN CONNECTING WITH NON-UNICODE CLIENT

ERROR DESCRIPTION:
Once a unicode TSM client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000
or V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP client)
has been used to connect to a TSM V4.2 server
with a given node name, that node name can no longer be
used by a non-unicode TSM client.  If you attempt to connect
with that node name using a non-unicode TSM client, you will
receive the following error:
.
You may see the following error:
ANR0428W Session 432 for node ENCRYP (WinNT)
refused - client is down-level with this server version.
..
ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel client code version
.
Any operation attempted by a non-unicode TSM client with this
node name, will fail with the above error message.  For example,
if the V4.2 Windows 2000 client has done queries or restores
for non-unicode filesystems for NODE1 to a V4.2 TSM server,
a V4.1 Windows 2000 client can no longer connect to
that V4.2 server as NODE1.

Initial Impact:  High
LOCAL FIX:
None.

PROBLEM SUMMARY:

* USERS AFFECTED: Non-unicode clients connecting to a V4.2 *
* server once a unicode client (V4.2.0 or  *
* higher Windows NT/2000 or V4.2.1.15 or   *
* higher Windows XP )  has been used to*
* access that server using the non-unicode *
* client's nodename.   *

* PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel*
*  client code version  received after *
*  connecting to server.   *

* RECOMMENDATION: Install the PTF  *

Once a TSM unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) node has connected to a
TSM 4.2.0 or greater server (any platform) using a non-unicode
client's node, the non-unicode client node may no longer
connect to that server. A down level client message is
received.
PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
The TSM  unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) can now be used for queries
and restores, and a lower level or non-unicode 4.2 client can
still connect to the server.  As long as no unicode filespaces
exist, the 4.2 and above TSM server will allow a lower level
or non--unicode V4.2 client to connect to the server.  If any
unicode filespaces exist for a node, a unicode client will be
required to connect to the server.  If any unicode filespaces
exist for a node, and lower level or non-unicode clients
attempt to connect, the connection will be refused, and the
down level client message will be displayed.


Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
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Matt,

If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous, and
are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




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I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
patching or correcting this.

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Jurjen Oskam

On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 04:23:15PM +0100, Large, Matthew wrote:

 commands available to everyone. I'm not sure they'd be too happy being
 expected to fix a problem that was actually created by a customers
 mistake(s) with these commands.

It is not a customer mistake. Everybody who can download a client and has
connectivity to the TSM server can cause this problem, since no
authentication is necessary for the problem to occur.

 Just a thought - I was there.

I experienced the same problem. IBM support told me to just delete all
filespaces and everyting else belonging to the client node, and recreate
it. (This was Dutch IBM-support by the way). They didn't mention there was
a fix for this at all. From this list I knew there was supposed to be an
undocumented procedure to fix it, but I didn't bother because this was a
relatively small and not-so-important node. I would *not* be happy if the
node *was* important, and the advice was just throw away everything from
that node and recreate it.


  SNIP! Is it *really* necessary to include entire messages here?

-- 
Jurjen Oskam

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Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Ike Maurice Hunley

Andy Raibeck wrote:

I should also add, this has been fixed to some extent in server 4.2.2.0,
per APAR IC32075. Note that this will not fix any clients where the
problem already exists, but it should prevent the problem from occurring
once the PTF is installed.


ABSTRACT:
ANS1357S WHEN CONNECTING WITH NON-UNICODE CLIENT

ERROR DESCRIPTION:
Once a unicode TSM client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000
or V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP client)
has been used to connect to a TSM V4.2 server
with a given node name, that node name can no longer be
used by a non-unicode TSM client.  If you attempt to connect
with that node name using a non-unicode TSM client, you will
receive the following error:
.
You may see the following error:
ANR0428W Session 432 for node ENCRYP (WinNT)
refused - client is down-level with this server version.
..
ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel client code version
.
Any operation attempted by a non-unicode TSM client with this
node name, will fail with the above error message.  For example,
if the V4.2 Windows 2000 client has done queries or restores
for non-unicode filesystems for NODE1 to a V4.2 TSM server,
a V4.1 Windows 2000 client can no longer connect to
that V4.2 server as NODE1.

Initial Impact:  High
LOCAL FIX:
None.

PROBLEM SUMMARY:

* USERS AFFECTED: Non-unicode clients connecting to a V4.2 *
* server once a unicode client (V4.2.0 or  *
* higher Windows NT/2000 or V4.2.1.15 or   *
* higher Windows XP )  has been used to*
* access that server using the non-unicode *
* client's nodename.   *

* PROBLEM DESCRIPTION: ANS1357S Session rejected: Downlevel*
*  client code version  received after *
*  connecting to server.   *

* RECOMMENDATION: Install the PTF  *

Once a TSM unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) node has connected to a
TSM 4.2.0 or greater server (any platform) using a non-unicode
client's node, the non-unicode client node may no longer
connect to that server. A down level client message is
received.
PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
The TSM  unicode client (V4.2.0 or higher Windows NT/2000 or
V4.2.1.15 or higher Windows XP ) can now be used for queries
and restores, and a lower level or non-unicode 4.2 client can
still connect to the server.  As long as no unicode filespaces
exist, the 4.2 and above TSM server will allow a lower level
or non--unicode V4.2 client to connect to the server.  If any
unicode filespaces exist for a node, a unicode client will be
required to connect to the server.  If any unicode filespaces
exist for a node, and lower level or non-unicode clients
attempt to connect, the connection will be refused, and the
down level client message will be displayed.


Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
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Matt,

If you are experiencing this problem, then you need to contact IBM
support. The procedures for resolving this are potentially dangerous, and
are therefore undocumented. They are not intended to be shared publicly.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (change eye to i to reply)

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
Good enough is the enemy of excellence.




Adams, Matt (US - Hermitage) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I would be interested in hearing what Tivoli support had to say on
patching or correcting this.

Thanks,

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 8:58 AM
To: [EMAIL

Re: tsm client is down-level with this server version

2002-08-28 Thread Williams, Tim P {PBSG}

You can't find ANY os/2 code?
os/2 isn't supported any longer. We still have it here too.
I do have the install executable...for v3.7.2.0 for os/2 if u need it.

-Original Message-
From: Oscar Kolsteren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:17 AM
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Subject: tsm client is down-level with this server version


Hi All,

Situation :

NT and OS/2 environment with TSM client 3.7.* and we have a AIX server
running
with 4.2.1.7.

Recently we installed some new servers with clientsversion 4.2. At the same
time
some administrators upgraded there local TSM version to 4.2.

If they want some info from a server running 3.7 and contact this server
from
their local installation the server won't backup anymore because we get the
message  tsm client is down-level with this server version.

When we upgrade the TSM client on this server everything is solved.

This is a known problem and has to do with unicode and non-unicode.

But now my problem :

There is no upgrade available for OS/2 and I can't backup this machine
anymore.
Does someone has a solution for this problem ???
(Remove the client and start all over is no option...)

Thanx,

Oscar Kolsteren
Postbank NV
Netherlands


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