why retries...

2010-11-17 Thread Marcel J.E. Mol
Hi List,

Can someone explain this:

11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File--14,186,959 /usr/IBMIHS/logs/error_log 
[Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File-- 8 /usr/IBMIHS/logs/httpd.pid 
[Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File--73,728 /usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagAtt 
[Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File--20,480 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagAtt.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File-- 8,192 /usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagDev 
[Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File-- 4,096 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagDev.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File--49,152 /usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagRes 
[Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File-- 8,192 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagRes.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:48 Normal File--   851,968 /usr/lib/objrepos/PdAt  
Changed
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File--14,186,959 
/usr/IBMIHS/logs/error_log [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File-- 8 
/usr/IBMIHS/logs/httpd.pid [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File--73,728 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagAtt [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File--20,480 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagAtt.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File-- 8,192 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagDev [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File-- 4,096 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagDev.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File--49,152 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagRes [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:49 Retry # 1  Normal File-- 8,192 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PDiagRes.vc [Sent]
11/16/10   23:58:50 Retry # 1  Normal File--   851,968 
/usr/lib/objrepos/PdAt [Sent]


Why does TSM retry files that are already '[Sent]'?
I would expect only the /usr/lib/objrepos/PdAt is retried as it apparently
has been changed.

-Marcel
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Re: why retries...

2010-11-17 Thread Richard Sims
The line with the Changed tells the story.  Remember that TSM client-server 
interactions are *transaction* based, not file-by-file.  If a constituent 
element of the transaction changes, the transaction is void and has to be 
repeated, according to your Changingretries choice.  This relates to 
Aggregate-based storage in the TSM server.

Richard Simshttp://people.bu.edu/rbs


Re: why retries...

2010-11-17 Thread Marcel J.E. Mol
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:24:51AM -0500, Richard Sims wrote:
 The line with the Changed tells the story.  Remember that TSM client-server 
 interactions are *transaction* based, not file-by-file.  If a constituent 
 element of the transaction changes, the transaction is void and has to be 
 repeated, according to your Changingretries choice.  This relates to 
 Aggregate-based storage in the TSM server.

Yes, I expected that much...

But it is just a waste of bandwidth to send the whole aggregate again because
maybe one (somteimes small) file in it has been changed. I saw a lot
of such retries so am worried about it a bit. I sure this can be implemented
in a miuch more optimal way.

-Marcel
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Re: why retries...

2010-11-17 Thread Maurice van 't Loo
Heey Marcel,

Long time ago ;-)
The max. size of the aggregates can be set in the options by
MoveSizeThresh and MoveBatchSize. But normaly the best choice is
high as this improves the backup speed a lot.

Mail or call me directly if you think you have a problem. I guess you
don't, but we can take a look to it together

Regards,
Maurice van 't Loo


2010/11/17 Marcel J.E. Mol mar...@mesa.nl:
 On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 08:24:51AM -0500, Richard Sims wrote:
 The line with the Changed tells the story.  Remember that TSM 
 client-server interactions are *transaction* based, not file-by-file.  If a 
 constituent element of the transaction changes, the transaction is void and 
 has to be repeated, according to your Changingretries choice.  This relates 
 to Aggregate-based storage in the TSM server.

 Yes, I expected that much...

 But it is just a waste of bandwidth to send the whole aggregate again because
 maybe one (somteimes small) file in it has been changed. I saw a lot
 of such retries so am worried about it a bit. I sure this can be implemented
 in a miuch more optimal way.

 -Marcel
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