Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-08 Thread Kevin
it appears that if I am debugging - the get is exceptionally slow.
Under production - it's quite fast.

Sorry for the false alarm.

On Jan 7, 2:04 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> The response time reported in the SOAP XML for that request was 574
> milliseconds, so the problem must be in the client library or your
> application code.
>
> Best,
> - Eric
>
> On Jan 6, 11:39 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is a requestID
> > 04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018
>
> > I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
> > seconds.
> > I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
> > 10.2 hours to sync up?
> > This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
> > perhaps 30 seconds?
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Eric,
>
> > > How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> > > point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> > > On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Kevin,
>
> > > > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > > > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > > > this problem?
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More 
> > > > specifics:
> > > > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > > > download?
> > > > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > hours.
>
> > > > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > > > Tech details:
> > > > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-08 Thread Kevin
Hi Eric,

Some further information for you:
basically this is a log file reporting - date, thread #, comments

1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:20 50 entries retreived. 101.6848161 seconds
elapsed. Google reporting: 679 Milliseconds. Request ID:
d25e781c2f8f6eafe1e5214ff3f0785c
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:14 Communicating with Google (Finished 2 AdGroups
pulled)
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:14 Finishing AdGroup Sync
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:15 6 entries retreived. 86.0729230 seconds
elapsed. Google reporting: 538 Milliseconds. Request ID:
b7a761d48fb720fc66b379e2f3329f7e
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:15 Communicating with Google (6 of 6)
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:15 Communicating with Google (Finished 6 Objects
pulled)
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:21 50 entries retreived. 84.4268289 seconds
elapsed. Google reporting: 1671 Milliseconds. Request ID:
0f72ba3117875947c492a086d8c70966
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:15 Syncing Keyword: -
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:15 Syncing Keyword: -
1/8/2011 9:07:19 PM:21 Communicating with Google (50 of 43381)


On Jan 7, 2:04 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> The response time reported in the SOAP XML for that request was 574
> milliseconds, so the problem must be in the client library or your
> application code.
>
> Best,
> - Eric
>
> On Jan 6, 11:39 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is a requestID
> > 04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018
>
> > I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
> > seconds.
> > I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
> > 10.2 hours to sync up?
> > This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
> > perhaps 30 seconds?
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Eric,
>
> > > How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> > > point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> > > On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Kevin,
>
> > > > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > > > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > > > this problem?
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More 
> > > > specifics:
> > > > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > > > download?
> > > > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > hours.
>
> > > > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > > > Tech details:
> > > > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-08 Thread Kevin
I did some looking into the clientservice object - and my last request
for 50 campaigns had a time of 885 (I think that is milliseconds?).
The request itself processed in a total of roughly 40 seconds from
start to finish.

That being said - what could be slowing this request down?   Is there
a way to examine how quickly the API is feeding data back?

Thanks!
kevin

On Jan 7, 2:04 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> The response time reported in the SOAP XML for that request was 574
> milliseconds, so the problem must be in the client library or your
> application code.
>
> Best,
> - Eric
>
> On Jan 6, 11:39 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is a requestID
> > 04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018
>
> > I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
> > seconds.
> > I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
> > 10.2 hours to sync up?
> > This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
> > perhaps 30 seconds?
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Eric,
>
> > > How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> > > point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> > > On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Kevin,
>
> > > > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > > > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > > > this problem?
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More 
> > > > specifics:
> > > > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > > > download?
> > > > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > hours.
>
> > > > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > > > Tech details:
> > > > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-08 Thread Kevin
weird - it's basically hanging in on the call for the get
(I am using the dll downloaded from google)

Any tips on what I can look at?  Also - is there a way I could pull
out the actual xml request, and do a more stepped examination of where
the delay might be?

Kevin

On Jan 7, 2:04 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> The response time reported in the SOAP XML for that request was 574
> milliseconds, so the problem must be in the client library or your
> application code.
>
> Best,
> - Eric
>
> On Jan 6, 11:39 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here is a requestID
> > 04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018
>
> > I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
> > seconds.
> > I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
> > 10.2 hours to sync up?
> > This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
> > perhaps 30 seconds?
>
> > On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Eric,
>
> > > How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> > > point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> > > On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Kevin,
>
> > > > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > > > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > > > this problem?
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More 
> > > > specifics:
> > > > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > > > download?
> > > > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > hours.
>
> > > > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > > > Tech details:
> > > > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-07 Thread AdWords API Advisor
Hi Kevin,

The response time reported in the SOAP XML for that request was 574
milliseconds, so the problem must be in the client library or your
application code.

Best,
- Eric

On Jan 6, 11:39 pm, Kevin  wrote:
> Here is a requestID
> 04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018
>
> I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
> seconds.
> I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
> 10.2 hours to sync up?
> This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
> perhaps 30 seconds?
>
> On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Eric,
>
> > How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> > point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> > On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi Kevin,
>
> > > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > > this problem?
>
> > > Best,
> > > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More 
> > > specifics:
> > > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > > download?
> > > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
> > > > > hours.
>
> > > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > > Tech details:
> > > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-06 Thread Kevin
Here is a requestID
04a2e2b34d44c37944bcf2117014f018

I cut back my request length to 50 - and this one took about 58
seconds.
I have 31,790 ads to retreive at at this speed it will take a bit over
10.2 hours to sync up?
This seems pretty slow - when a report of all this information takes
perhaps 30 seconds?

On Jan 6, 8:08 pm, Kevin  wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
> point me to where I can locate that value?
>
> On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Kevin,
>
> > That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> > end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> > this problem?
>
> > Best,
> > - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> > On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More specifics:
> > > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > > download?
> > > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
> > > > hours.
>
> > > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > > Tech details:
> > > > I am passing a page request with
> > > > numberResults = 1000
> > > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-06 Thread Kevin
Hi Eric,

How do I get the request ID?  I'll be happy to provide if you can
point me to where I can locate that value?

On Jan 5, 3:12 pm, AdWords API Advisor 
wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
> end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
> this problem?
>
> Best,
> - Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team
>
> On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:> More specifics:
> > 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> > 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> > Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> > On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
> > > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > > download?
> > > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
> > > hours.
>
> > > Is this Normal?
>
> > > Tech details:
> > > I am passing a page request with
> > > numberResults = 1000
> > > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-06 Thread AdWords API Advisor
Hi,

If you are noticing performance issues related to the client library
(and not the API itself) please file an issue on the project's site:

  http://code.google.com/p/google-api-adwords-python-lib/issues/list

Best,
- Eric

On Jan 6, 10:03 am, Alexander Parij  wrote:
> Hi ,
>
> Try to set the page size to 100 entries.
> I don't know what language library you are using,  but we used python's with
> ZSI to process the soap response. It was extremely slow when we had page
> size of let's say 1000 . I don't know what happens inside but the code is
> not that optimized
> and the processing time rises exponentially actually even 100 entires
> was a bit slow and we just changed to the older SOAPPY because it's MUCH
> faster.
>
> Hope it helps.
> Alexander Parij

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-06 Thread Alexander Parij
Hi ,

Try to set the page size to 100 entries.
I don't know what language library you are using,  but we used python's with 
ZSI to process the soap response. It was extremely slow when we had page 
size of let's say 1000 . I don't know what happens inside but the code is 
not that optimized 
and the processing time rises exponentially actually even 100 entires 
was a bit slow and we just changed to the older SOAPPY because it's MUCH 
faster.

Hope it helps.
Alexander Parij

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-05 Thread AdWords API Advisor
Hi Kevin,

That is certainly abnormal, and I'm not able to replicate it on my
end.  Can you provide the requestId of a request that demonstrates
this problem?

Best,
- Eric Koleda, AdWords API Team

On Jan 4, 11:11 pm, Kevin  wrote:
> More specifics:
> 130 campaigns took this long to return results...
>
> 4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived
>
> Seriously - 81 minutes?
>
> On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> > download?
> > I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> > operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> > I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
> > hours.
>
> > Is this Normal?
>
> > Tech details:
> > I am passing a page request with
> > numberResults = 1000
> > startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> > criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> > userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> > Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> > AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.

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Re: API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-04 Thread Kevin
More specifics:
130 campaigns took this long to return results...

4853.3525959 seconds elapsed. 130 entries retreived

Seriously - 81 minutes?


On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Kevin Hill  wrote:
> Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
> download?
> I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
> operations are taking a LONG time.
>
> I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
> hours.
>
> Is this Normal?
>
> Tech details:
> I am passing a page request with
> numberResults = 1000
> startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)
>
> criterionUse = BIDDABLE
> userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED
>
> Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
> AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.

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API Calls taking a long, LONG time.

2011-01-03 Thread Kevin Hill
Is it normal for a get operation for all campaigns to take hours to
download?
I am pulling pages with a numberResults set to 1000 - and get
operations are taking a LONG time.

I have 20-25k of keywords - and currently I am at 10,000 in roughly 4
hours.

Is this Normal?


Tech details:
I am passing a page request with
numberResults = 1000
startIndex = StartIndex + 1000  (starts at 0)

criterionUse = BIDDABLE
userStatuses = ACTIVE, DELETED, PAUSED

Using an AdGroupCriterionService to execute a Get with a
AdGroupCriterionSelector with the above info.

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