Re: Clone a campaign using only API

[Emanuele Bragagnolo]

At the moment I am doing a research to understand if copying a campaign is 
doable using only API: In my use case I want to clone a campaign changing 
only few parameters and compare the performance to the original one.

I am pretty new to AdWords system, but my idea is that copying a campaign 
is a normal operation: this is confirmed by the fact that this 
functionality is implemented in the console UI. I am only surprised that 
this functionality is not straightforward to implement using only API

BTW I think that I have all the informations I need. Thx to everyone

Emanuele


On Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 11:47:41 AM UTC+2, Zweitze wrote:
>
> I think an exact duplicate campaign is rather useless, but who am I to 
> judge. So, may I ask why you want to do this?
>
> Some ideas I can come up with:
>
>- You want to change a few settings in the cloned campaign and compare 
>the results. In that case, look at Campaign Drafts and Experiments 
>
> 
>.
>- You want to consolidate the campaigns of multiple accounts (say 8, 
>30 or 200 accounts) into one master account. You should contact your 
> Google 
>representative.
>- You want to create a snapshot every week or so, for backup purposes. 
>Try the AdWords product forum to see what others think. Note: if you want 
>the snapshot in the same account, again you can consider Campaign Drafts 
>and Experiments
>
> Also note that some things are downright impossible. For instance you 
> cannot create a video campaign, so you can't clone one either.
>
> Anyway, maybe it helps if you can offer the bigger picture.
>
>
> On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 6:05:45 PM UTC+2, Emanuele Bragagnolo wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am implementing a feature to clone a whole AdWords campaign using only 
>> the API. Basically I want the same behavior of the CTRL+C and CTRL+V that 
>> is available in the AdWords UI
>>
>> with a deep copy of the campaign and of all the AdGroups contained in it.
>>
>> I've found this old thread 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/adwords-api/rErEluYfpAQ, but 
>> it's not indicated a clear solution for this use case
>>
>> My approach is to get a campaign using the CampaignService.get and then 
>> create a new campaign using the response as template and modifying only few 
>> fields
>>
>> Because I want to clone the whole campaign the response should contain 
>> all the data: where can I find a complete list of fields to include in the 
>> selector of the request?
>>
>> I am using this documentation 
>> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/CampaignService
>>  
>>
>>
>> but it's is not straightforward to include the fields for the nested 
>> objects
>>
>> For the moment I have some problems because I cannot get the AdGroups 
>> list in the response
>>
>> Best regards, Emanuele
>>
>

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

[Zweitze]

I think an exact duplicate campaign is rather useless, but who am I to 
judge. So, may I ask why you want to do this?

Some ideas I can come up with:

   - You want to change a few settings in the cloned campaign and compare 
   the results. In that case, look at Campaign Drafts and Experiments 
   

   .
   - You want to consolidate the campaigns of multiple accounts (say 8, 30 
   or 200 accounts) into one master account. You should contact your Google 
   representative.
   - You want to create a snapshot every week or so, for backup purposes. 
   Try the AdWords product forum to see what others think. Note: if you want 
   the snapshot in the same account, again you can consider Campaign Drafts 
   and Experiments
   
Also note that some things are downright impossible. For instance you 
cannot create a video campaign, so you can't clone one either.

Anyway, maybe it helps if you can offer the bigger picture.


On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 6:05:45 PM UTC+2, Emanuele Bragagnolo wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I am implementing a feature to clone a whole AdWords campaign using only 
> the API. Basically I want the same behavior of the CTRL+C and CTRL+V that 
> is available in the AdWords UI
>
> with a deep copy of the campaign and of all the AdGroups contained in it.
>
> I've found this old thread 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/adwords-api/rErEluYfpAQ, but it's 
> not indicated a clear solution for this use case
>
> My approach is to get a campaign using the CampaignService.get and then 
> create a new campaign using the response as template and modifying only few 
> fields
>
> Because I want to clone the whole campaign the response should contain all 
> the data: where can I find a complete list of fields to include in the 
> selector of the request?
>
> I am using this documentation 
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/CampaignService
>  
>
>
> but it's is not straightforward to include the fields for the nested 
> objects
>
> For the moment I have some problems because I cannot get the AdGroups list 
> in the response
>
> Best regards, Emanuele
>

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

['Sreelakshmi Sasidharan (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Hi Emanuele, 

Unfortunately, I don't have a complete list of these dependencies. I 
addition to the guide 
 on 
objects and its hierarchy, you could also check this 

 section 
about campaign data. The AdWords API is designed in such a way that any 
service can only be used to create or manage that particular type of 
object(s). Hence, CampaignService will return data pertaining to campaign 
and not it's nested objects. I am afraid, there isn't a easy way as in the 
AdWords web interface to clone the campaign including all it's nested 
objects. 

An alternate option would be to clone a campaign via web interface and then 
check the change history to see the details of that operation. This should 
give you an idea about what all needs to be copied and verified once you 
are done with the clone.

Thanks,
Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

[Emanuele Bragagnolo]

Hi Sreelakshmi

Ok, I understand that the campaign can contain different objects. The point 
is that such objects are not returned in the CampaignService.get(). To 
figure out which objects are contained inside a campaign I need to query 
for example the AdGroupService, CampaignCriterionService, AdGroupAdService 
filtering in the predicate for the campaignId as you suggested in the 
previous mail.

Now to know which services to query I need a complete list of all the 
different kinds of objects that can be contained in a campaign. Otherwise 
my "cloned" campaigns will have less objects than expected and will not be 
a full copy of the original

Best regards, Emanuele




On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 4:57:13 PM UTC+2, Sreelakshmi Sasidharan 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Emanuele, 
>
> The objects within a given campaign could vary on a case by case basis. 
> They can be adgroups, keywords or other criterion at campaign or adgroup 
> levels, ads, extensions etc. This guide 
>  
> should help you get an idea of the objects and its hierarchy. Please note 
> that it is not mandatory to have all these objects in any campaign. 
>
> Thanks,
> Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team
>

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

['Sreelakshmi Sasidharan (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Hi Emanuele, 

The objects within a given campaign could vary on a case by case basis. 
They can be adgroups, keywords or other criterion at campaign or adgroup 
levels, ads, extensions etc. This guide 
 
should help you get an idea of the objects and its hierarchy. Please note 
that it is not mandatory to have all these objects in any campaign. 

Thanks,
Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

[Emanuele Bragagnolo]

Hi Sreelakshmi

Thank you for your quick reply

I have a question about this point

And the process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within 
> the campaign and the adgroup. 


Those nested objects are only adgroups and criterion?

If no, can you give me a list of all the nested objects that are contained 
in a campaign and need to be copied when cloning a campaign?

Thank in advance, Emanuele

PS I think there are some trouble with google groups: this is the second 
time I create this reply

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:04:19 PM UTC+2, Sreelakshmi Sasidharan 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Emanuele, 
>
> The AdWords API does not have a clone functionality. If you want to create 
> a copy of any object (campaign, adgroup, keyword..), you can first use the 
> get service of that specific object and then pass the retrieved object to 
> the mutate call of the corresponding service with the operator set as ADD. 
> Eg., If you want to clone campaign A to create campaign B, you will first 
> use the CampaignService.get() 
> 
>  and 
> retrieve all the fields of campaign A and this result will need to be 
> passed to CampaignService.mutate() 
> .
>  
> This will only create a copy of campaign A and not the nested adgroups or 
> criterion. To create the complete copy of campaign including the adgroups 
> and criterion, you will need to be repeat the process in sequence using the 
> 'get' of the respective service followed by mutate and so on. And the 
> process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within the 
> campaign and the adgroup. 
>
> To find out the adgroups under a given campaign, you could use the 
> AdGroupService.get() 
> 
>  with 
> the specific CampaignId 
> 
>  set 
> as predicate.
>
> Unlike AdWords web interface, there isn't a single service that copies the 
> entire Campaign. Please let me know if have any additional questions. 
>
> Thanks,
> Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team
>

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

[Emanuele Bragagnolo]

Hi Sreelakshmi

Thank you for your quick reply

I have a question about this point

And the process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within 
> the campaign and the adgroup. 


Those nested object are only adgroups and criterion?

If no, can you give me a list of all the nested objects that are contained 
in a campaign and need to be copied when cloning a campaign?

Thank in advance, Emanuele

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:04:19 PM UTC+2, Sreelakshmi Sasidharan 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Emanuele, 
>
> The AdWords API does not have a clone functionality. If you want to create 
> a copy of any object (campaign, adgroup, keyword..), you can first use the 
> get service of that specific object and then pass the retrieved object to 
> the mutate call of the corresponding service with the operator set as ADD. 
> Eg., If you want to clone campaign A to create campaign B, you will first 
> use the CampaignService.get() 
> 
>  and 
> retrieve all the fields of campaign A and this result will need to be 
> passed to CampaignService.mutate() 
> .
>  
> This will only create a copy of campaign A and not the nested adgroups or 
> criterion. To create the complete copy of campaign including the adgroups 
> and criterion, you will need to be repeat the process in sequence using the 
> 'get' of the respective service followed by mutate and so on. And the 
> process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within the 
> campaign and the adgroup. 
>
> To find out the adgroups under a given campaign, you could use the 
> AdGroupService.get() 
> 
>  with 
> the specific CampaignId 
> 
>  set 
> as predicate.
>
> Unlike AdWords web interface, there isn't a single service that copies the 
> entire Campaign. Please let me know if have any additional questions. 
>
> Thanks,
> Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team
>

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 8:04:19 PM UTC+2, Sreelakshmi Sasidharan 
(AdWords API Team) wrote:
>
> Hi Emanuele, 
>
> The AdWords API does not have a clone functionality. If you want to create 
> a copy of any object (campaign, adgroup, keyword..), you can first use the 
> get service of that specific object and then pass the retrieved object to 
> the mutate call of the corresponding service with the operator set as ADD. 
> Eg., If you want to clone campaign A to create campaign B, you will first 
> use the CampaignService.get() 
> 
>  and 
> retrieve all the fields of campaign A and this result will need to be 
> passed to CampaignService.mutate() 
> .
>  
> This will only create a copy of campaign A and not the nested adgroups or 
> criterion. To create the complete copy of campaign including the adgroups 
> and criterion, you will need to be repeat the process in sequence using the 
> 'get' of the respective service followed by mutate and so on. And the 
> process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within the 
> campaign and the adgroup. 
>
> To find out the adgroups under a given campaign, you could use the 
> AdGroupService.get() 
> 
>  with 
> the specific CampaignId 
> 
>  set 
> as predicate.
>
> Unlike AdWords web interface, there isn't a single service that copies the 
> entire Campaign. Please let me know if have any additional questions. 
>
> Thanks,
> Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team
>

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Re: Clone a campaign using only API

['Sreelakshmi Sasidharan (AdWords API Team)' via AdWords API Forum]

Hi Emanuele, 

The AdWords API does not have a clone functionality. If you want to create 
a copy of any object (campaign, adgroup, keyword..), you can first use the 
get service of that specific object and then pass the retrieved object to 
the mutate call of the corresponding service with the operator set as ADD. 
Eg., If you want to clone campaign A to create campaign B, you will first 
use the CampaignService.get() 

 and 
retrieve all the fields of campaign A and this result will need to be 
passed to CampaignService.mutate() 
.
 
This will only create a copy of campaign A and not the nested adgroups or 
criterion. To create the complete copy of campaign including the adgroups 
and criterion, you will need to be repeat the process in sequence using the 
'get' of the respective service followed by mutate and so on. And the 
process will have to be repeated for all the nested objects within the 
campaign and the adgroup. 

To find out the adgroups under a given campaign, you could use the 
AdGroupService.get() 

 with 
the specific CampaignId 

 set 
as predicate.

Unlike AdWords web interface, there isn't a single service that copies the 
entire Campaign. Please let me know if have any additional questions. 

Thanks,
Sreelakshmi, AdWords API Team

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Clone a campaign using only API

[Emanuele Bragagnolo]

Hi

I am implementing a feature to clone a whole AdWords campaign using only 
the API. Basically I want the same behavior of the CTRL+C and CTRL+V that 
is available in the AdWords UI

with a deep copy of the campaign and of all the AdGroups contained in it.

I've found this old thread 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/adwords-api/rErEluYfpAQ, but it's 
not indicated a clear solution for this use case

My approach is to get a campaign using the CampaignService.get and then 
create a new campaign using the response as template and modifying only few 
fields

Because I want to clone the whole campaign the response should contain all 
the data: where can I find a complete list of fields to include in the 
selector of the request?

I am using this documentation 
https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/reference/v201702/CampaignService
 


but it's is not straightforward to include the fields for the nested objects

For the moment I have some problems because I cannot get the AdGroups list 
in the response

Best regards, Emanuele

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