Re: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

[Jonathan Wu]

Alright, thanks for your help.


Regards,
Jonathan Wu

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) <
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
> The link for Merchant Center is still here
>  and has not
> changed. What has changed is that the bidding categories returned by
> ConstantDataService.getProductBiddingCategoryData
> 
>  now
> match levels 1-5 of the Merchant Center categories, with a few minor
> exceptions.
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Re: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

[Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team)]

Hi Jonathan,

The link for Merchant Center is still here 
 and has not changed. 
What has changed is that the bidding categories returned by 
ConstantDataService.getProductBiddingCategoryData 

 now 
match levels 1-5 of the Merchant Center categories, with a few minor 
exceptions.

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Re: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

[Jonathan Wu]

Oh, is there an updated link for the merchant center taxonomy?


Regards,
Jonathan Wu

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) <
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> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm happy to report that with the exception of a handful of nodes, the two
> taxonomies now match at levels 1-5.
>
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Re: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

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Hi Jonathan,

I'm happy to report that with the exception of a handful of nodes, the two 
taxonomies now match at levels 1-5.

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RE: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

[Jonathan Wu]

So far, only the US.
On Sep 2, 2014 7:01 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Sorry to hear that this work around won't be feasible for you. I'll ask
> the shopping team again if there's any way to produce the mapping between
> the two category taxonomies. For which countries would you need the mapping?
>
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> On 08/29/14 14:01:37 jonathan...@datapop.com wrote:
>
> This doesn't really help us since our customers are dictating what they
> what their feed to look like and how to bid on it. We have to execute as
> they specify.
> We already made our own mapping between the taxonomies, but again, it's
> not ideal since any change on either side will break it. If you guys could
> provide a service that returns the product bidding category id based on a
> google_product_category string, that would probably be ideal...
>
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan Wu
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:12 AM,  wrote:
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> We have an idea for a work-around to this problem and I was wondering if
> you would be willing to give it a shot. The idea is to use ProductType
> -based
> bidding instead of ProductBiddingCategory
> 
> -based bidding.
>
> *ProductType* is not tied to a predefined category taxonomy -- the
> categories are completely defined by the user when uploading his products
> to Merchant Center. As a result, bidding based on *ProductType* does not
> have the same category mismatch issues as *ProductBiddingCategory*-based
> bidding.
>
> The work-around is as follows:
>
>1. Update your existing Merchant Center products
> (either
>through the API or the UI), copying the Merchant Center
>*google_product_category* into the *product_type* for each product.
>For new products and ongoing changes to existing products, modify your feed
>upload so that you populate *product_type* with the same values that
>you use for *google_product_category*.
>2. Create your ProductPartitions
>
> 
> using ProductType
>
> 
>  dimensions
>that correspond to the *product_type* values in your feed.
>
> If you are relying on Merchant Center to automatically populate
> *google_product_category* based on the other attributes of your products,
> then step 1 above could be somewhat difficult, as you'll have to first
> upload your feed, then retrieve the products to find each one's
> *google_product_category*, and then upload your feed again with those
> values copied to the *product_type* field. On the other hand, if you are
> already specifying the *google_product_category* in your feeds, then this
> work-around should be relatively straightforward.
>
> If you're willing to give this a shot, please let me know. I would
> recommend trying this on a small Merchant Center account or a small subset
> of products in your Merchant Center account first just as a
> proof-of-concept. If all goes well then you can expand the approach to a
> larger set of products.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
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> On 08/14/14 16:17:09 jonathan...@datapop.com wrote:
>
> Any update on this?
>
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan Wu
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) <
> adwordsapiadvisor+j...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying. I'm still waiting for some people to get back to me
> on the differences between the two category sets. I'll post an update as
> soon as I have more information.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
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Re: [4-6874000004292] Google Product Taxonomy vs Product Bidding Category

[Jonathan Wu]

This doesn't really help us since our customers are dictating what they
what their feed to look like and how to bid on it. We have to execute as
they specify.
We already made our own mapping between the taxonomies, but again, it's not
ideal since any change on either side will break it. If you guys could
provide a service that returns the product bidding category id based on a
google_product_category string, that would probably be ideal...


Regards,
Jonathan Wu


On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 7:12 AM,  wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> We have an idea for a work-around to this problem and I was wondering if
> you would be willing to give it a shot. The idea is to use ProductType
> -based
> bidding instead of ProductBiddingCategory
> -based
> bidding.
>
> *ProductType* is not tied to a predefined category taxonomy -- the
> categories are completely defined by the user when uploading his products
> to Merchant Center. As a result, bidding based on *ProductType* does not
> have the same category mismatch issues as *ProductBiddingCategory*-based
> bidding.
>
> The work-around is as follows:
>
>1. Update your existing Merchant Center products
> (either
>through the API or the UI), copying the Merchant Center
>*google_product_category* into the *product_type* for each product.
>For new products and ongoing changes to existing products, modify your feed
>upload so that you populate *product_type* with the same values that
>you use for *google_product_category*.
>2. Create your ProductPartitions
>
> 
> using ProductType
>
> 
>  dimensions
>that correspond to the *product_type* values in your feed.
>
> If you are relying on Merchant Center to automatically populate
> *google_product_category* based on the other attributes of your products,
> then step 1 above could be somewhat difficult, as you'll have to first
> upload your feed, then retrieve the products to find each one's
> *google_product_category*, and then upload your feed again with those
> values copied to the *product_type* field. On the other hand, if you are
> already specifying the *google_product_category* in your feeds, then this
> work-around should be relatively straightforward.
>
> If you're willing to give this a shot, please let me know. I would
> recommend trying this on a small Merchant Center account or a small subset
> of products in your Merchant Center account first just as a
> proof-of-concept. If all goes well then you can expand the approach to a
> larger set of products.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
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> On 08/14/14 16:17:09 jonathan...@datapop.com wrote:
>
> Any update on this?
>
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan Wu
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Josh Radcliff (AdWords API Team) <
> adwordsapiadvisor+j...@google.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for clarifying. I'm still waiting for some people to get back to me
> on the differences between the two category sets. I'll post an update as
> soon as I have more information.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh, AdWords API Team
>
>
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