Re: Best practices on managing Ids?

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So, my two cents - coding AdWords API for well over ten years.

Whatever you do, be prepared for change. The Google Ads eco system is very 
alive, every month features come and go. Some changes are big, some small. 
Once you implemented a feature (say Shopping campaigns or Education ad 
extensions or Campaign experiments or Shared budgets or MCC linking or 
Campaign groups or ...) you run the risk that Google changes it, leaving 
you a little time to drop whatever you're doing, and deal with that change.

So, to be prepared for future changes, I suggest to be conservative on 
implementing features of Google Ads.



On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:11:44 PM UTC+1, F B wrote:
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> Thank you for the reply. Jupp I am very much aware of this. Have been 
> reading the documentation right to left and top to bottom.
>
> Curious to hear what others here think, how much of the objects in an 
> account should be mirrored into a database.
>
> On Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:00:44 UTC+1, googleadsapi-forumadvisor wrote:
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>> Hello Fabian, 
>>
>> I think you may already be aware of this. If not, the hierarchy of the 
>> objects in Google ads are shown in this guide 
>> . 
>> I will let other users on th forum share their experience on this topic
>>
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Re: Best practices on managing Ids?

[F B]

Thank you for the reply. Jupp I am very much aware of this. Have been 
reading the documentation right to left and top to bottom.

Curious to hear what others here think, how much of the objects in an 
account should be mirrored into a database.

On Thursday, 28 March 2019 21:00:44 UTC+1, googleadsapi-forumadvisor wrote:
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> Hello Fabian, 
>
> I think you may already be aware of this. If not, the hierarchy of the 
> objects in Google ads are shown in this guide 
> . 
> I will let other users on th forum share their experience on this topic
>
> Thanks,
> Bharani, Google Ads API Team
>
> =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~
> Also find us on our blog and discussion group:
> http://googleadsdeveloper.blogspot.com/search/label/adwords_api
> https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/community/
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RE: Best practices on managing Ids?

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Hello Fabian,

I think you may already be aware of this. If not, the hierarchy of the
objects in Google ads are shown in this guide
. I
will let other users on th forum share their experience on this topic

Thanks,
Bharani, Google Ads API Team

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Re: Best practices on managing Ids?

[F B]

I guess I had that one coming for providing so few details.

I am totally in the clear about needing a "local" (which means running on a 
server) database.

*Consider the following scenario:*

I have items (~100k), of which each will be represented by an adgroup, they 
will be clustered within campaigns. For every item there will be roughly 5, 
later 10 languages.

Now when thinking about setting up a project of managing them all 
programatically, I am considering having a local representation of most 
objects. 
However, this makes for a plethora of objects and dependencies between 
them. It almost feels like I am building a light version of the Ads 
Ecosystem.
I am wondering if there are some established systems/best practices for 
this.

Does this make more sense?

Cheers
Fabian


On Thursday, 28 March 2019 12:39:55 UTC+1, F B wrote:
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> Are there any good blogs or guides or best practices to managing the 
> representation of the Google Ads Objects locally.
>
> I.e. assuming I am creating 150 campaigns, all of them have adgroups, ads 
> and keywords. Now if I want to manage them based on our available 
> inventory, this means I will need some sort of "local" representation of my 
> google Ads objects. Such that I can use the API to enable or disable a 
> particular adgroup for example.
> I somehow feel like I am reinventing the wheel here.
>
> Cheers
>

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Re: Best practices on managing Ids?

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So the question is, how to store those IDs and other intermediate results, 
so you can use them later?
Sorry, no hints for blogs or guides... your question is a general 
programming topic.

What to do? Basically you have "storage", which enable to store 
information, and retrieve that later.

For instance, you can write to a file, then save it. Later your program (or 
a different program) can open that file again and look for your 
information. This is easy to realize, you only have to make sure you have 
read and write access to the file.

When get a lot of things to store, say over 10,000, you should look into 
databases. At that point speed becomes an issue, you may want backups of 
the information, etc.etc. With databases you can have billions and billions 
of items. On the downside, it's a complicated topic - many libraries are 
filled with books on databases.

When you're in the cloud, you can't really have a local file to read from 
and write to. You may want to look at the solution seen in many AdWords 
scripts: information, settings etc. are stored in Google sheets.





On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 12:39:55 PM UTC+1, F B wrote:
>
> Are there any good blogs or guides or best practices to managing the 
> representation of the Google Ads Objects locally.
>
> I.e. assuming I am creating 150 campaigns, all of them have adgroups, ads 
> and keywords. Now if I want to manage them based on our available 
> inventory, this means I will need some sort of "local" representation of my 
> google Ads objects. Such that I can use the API to enable or disable a 
> particular adgroup for example.
> I somehow feel like I am reinventing the wheel here.
>
> Cheers
>

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