Re: Required Minimum Functionality RMF now applies to Internal-Only users?

2014-02-06 Thread Matt Perry
Update: I contacted the API token team directly about this.  

They didn't provide too many details in their response, but it appears to 
be a case-by-case thing now.   Although the term internal-only has 
disappeared from the RMF document, in our case, as long as our use remains 
internal-only, we're good to go.




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Re: Required Minimum Functionality RMF now applies to Internal-Only users?

2014-02-06 Thread Matt Perry
Update: I contacted the API token team directly about this.  They didn't 
provide too many details in their response, but it appears to be a 
case-by-case thing now.   

Although the term internal-only has disappeared from the RMF document, 
it's still a consideration in determining RMF compliance.  In our case, 
because our use remained internal-only, we were good to go.


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Required Minimum Functionality RMF now applies to Internal-Only users?

2014-02-03 Thread Matt Perry
Hello,

As an agency, we've been developing various tools that we use internally to 
help us with account creation and management.  We've been very careful to 
not allow clients, partners, etc to use the API to maintain our status of 
an Internal-Only AdWords API Client.  And our intention is to report any 
use changes when they are developed, as required.

When we began developing these tools, the RMF document said that it didn't 
apply to Internal-Only clients:

This Section III(2)(f) does not apply to End-Advertiser-Only AdWords API 
Clients and Internal-Only AdWords API Clients
See: 
http://googledata.org/google-adwords-api/changes-to-required-minimum-functionality-for-adwords-api-clients/

But now, the RMF document does not even mention Internal-Only clients:

*End-Advertiser-Only AdWords API Clients (each as defined in the **Terms  
Conditions https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/terms) are not 
required to fully implement the required AdWords API features shown in the 
chart below; all other AdWords API Clients (as defined in the Terms  
Conditions https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/terms**) must 
fully implement the required AdWords API feature*s relevant to their tool 
type as explained below.
See: https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/requirements

I understand that this forum cannot provide legal interpretation, but I'm 
hoping I'm missing something.

Since we use the API to manage other business's accounts, we're not 
End-Advertiser-Only.  But it makes no sense to me that if we've written 
code to internally use the API to create a campaign, we also need to have 
code to use the API to create Ad Group Sitelinks.

Was there any discussion around this change?  Do we know when this change 
occurred?  Are there any other documents that address this besides the RMF 
and TOS? Am I missing something?

Thanks.


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Re: Required Minimum Functionality RMF now applies to Internal-Only users?

2014-02-03 Thread Oliver
Google removed the Internal-Only keyword from the RMF more than 6 months 
ago.  There was no discussion on this forum about this change and they 
didn't make any announcement about it.

Oliver


On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:43:53 AM UTC, Matt Perry wrote:

 Hello,

 As an agency, we've been developing various tools that we use internally 
 to help us with account creation and management.  We've been very careful 
 to not allow clients, partners, etc to use the API to maintain our status 
 of an Internal-Only AdWords API Client.  And our intention is to report 
 any use changes when they are developed, as required.

 When we began developing these tools, the RMF document said that it didn't 
 apply to Internal-Only clients:

 This Section III(2)(f) does not apply to End-Advertiser-Only AdWords API 
 Clients and Internal-Only AdWords API Clients
 See: 
 http://googledata.org/google-adwords-api/changes-to-required-minimum-functionality-for-adwords-api-clients/

 But now, the RMF document does not even mention Internal-Only clients:

 *End-Advertiser-Only AdWords API Clients (each as defined in the **Terms 
  Conditions https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/terms) are 
 not required to fully implement the required AdWords API features shown in 
 the chart below; all other AdWords API Clients (as defined in the Terms  
 Conditions https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/terms**) must 
 fully implement the required AdWords API feature*s relevant to their tool 
 type as explained below.
 See: https://developers.google.com/adwords/api/docs/requirements

 I understand that this forum cannot provide legal interpretation, but I'm 
 hoping I'm missing something.

 Since we use the API to manage other business's accounts, we're not 
 End-Advertiser-Only.  But it makes no sense to me that if we've written 
 code to internally use the API to create a campaign, we also need to have 
 code to use the API to create Ad Group Sitelinks.

 Was there any discussion around this change?  Do we know when this change 
 occurred?  Are there any other documents that address this besides the RMF 
 and TOS? Am I missing something?

 Thanks.




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