Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

[Ken Hohhof]

When you mention playing God, this Far Side cartoon comes to mind.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

We didn't switch to Preseem for the price. We paid more for saisei when it was 
the throughout pricing model and it was just too complicated. It was cool like 
procera but I felt like we were playing God with shaping certain categories 
like video, Xbox downloads, etc and I was spending too much time tinkering.

 

My effort was better spent in preseem fixing problems like interference on 
backhauls, congested ap's, spending money elevating our network to epmp. 

 

So having tried them all so to speak, I would still pick preseem again knowing 
that I spend more time on selling service and upgrading our network instead of 
playing God and shaping down video and updates. It was fun but then I did start 
to feel bad about it. 

 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 3:58 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>  wrote:

I know that WISPs tend to like things in inverse proportion to their price.  
And it appears that Procera, Saisei and Preseem are in the ballpark of 4x, 2x 
and 1x on price.  It’s easier to compare Saisei and Preseem since they both 
have per subscriber pricing.

 

All the comments about Preseem have been that it works good, not that it’s 
cheaper, but I have to ask.  If the price per subscriber was the same between 
Saisei and Preseem, would you still prefer Preseem?

 

It does make sense that supporting DPI and constantly updating the DPI 
signatures would cost more than a flow based product that doesn’t try to do 
DPI.  I also understand (maybe) the fact that with DPI you have to configure 
and constantly tweak the policies according to what you want to prioritize, and 
that maybe it’s better to have something that you just plug it in and it just 
works.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

I'll say we've used procera, saisei, in the past and they're DPI. They're cool 
and you can do lots of things with them. They also require hands-on attention 
and tweaking. They give you NO usable QoE data so you still can't tell where 
you have trouble in your network or individual customers like you can with 
preseem. 

 

We now use preseem for about 11 months and we love it! It's not DPI so don't 
even think that you can shape individual types of traffic like video, updates, 
etc because thats not what it is. 

 

It requires no tweaking or hands-on configuration at all and preseem guys do 
all the work for you. It provides the best QoE data of any service out there 
and really helps tell you what tower, sector, or customer is having a bad 
experience so you can fix it. On top of this valuable data, it does your rate 
plan shaping and it does it damn well to boot. Customers can now max out their 
rate plans without a spike in latency or complaints or laggy gaming or slow web 
browsing. It allows small traffic flows like voip, dns, web browsing, gaming to 
"jump the queue" so to speak so large flows like video and updates don't slow 
everything down. 

 

It's very handy. I've rate shaped my home down to 3 mbps and still was able to 
run 2 Netflix streams, 1 YouTube, plus a voip call and web browse without any 
lag or buffering whatsoever. 

 

I highly recommend anyone do a trial with preseem and you'll be happy campers. 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 1:34 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>  wrote:

Bufferbloat is over-hyped.

Also, https://people.ucsc.edu/~warner/buffer.html

 



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:59:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

Where is this alleged bufferbloat coming from?

 

It can’t be from rate queues.  The highest we set our Mikrotik queues is around 
40 packets before they start dropping packets.  We have pushed the queue depth 
higher to signal congestion to TCP Vegas style implementations.  But at 10 Mbps 
that’s still only ~40 milliseconds of delay. 

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

[Ken Hohhof]

OK, good explanation.  Thanks.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 4:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

We didn't switch to Preseem for the price. We paid more for saisei when it was 
the throughout pricing model and it was just too complicated. It was cool like 
procera but I felt like we were playing God with shaping certain categories 
like video, Xbox downloads, etc and I was spending too much time tinkering.

 

My effort was better spent in preseem fixing problems like interference on 
backhauls, congested ap's, spending money elevating our network to epmp. 

 

So having tried them all so to speak, I would still pick preseem again knowing 
that I spend more time on selling service and upgrading our network instead of 
playing God and shaping down video and updates. It was fun but then I did start 
to feel bad about it. 

 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 3:58 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>  wrote:

I know that WISPs tend to like things in inverse proportion to their price.  
And it appears that Procera, Saisei and Preseem are in the ballpark of 4x, 2x 
and 1x on price.  It’s easier to compare Saisei and Preseem since they both 
have per subscriber pricing.

 

All the comments about Preseem have been that it works good, not that it’s 
cheaper, but I have to ask.  If the price per subscriber was the same between 
Saisei and Preseem, would you still prefer Preseem?

 

It does make sense that supporting DPI and constantly updating the DPI 
signatures would cost more than a flow based product that doesn’t try to do 
DPI.  I also understand (maybe) the fact that with DPI you have to configure 
and constantly tweak the policies according to what you want to prioritize, and 
that maybe it’s better to have something that you just plug it in and it just 
works.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

I'll say we've used procera, saisei, in the past and they're DPI. They're cool 
and you can do lots of things with them. They also require hands-on attention 
and tweaking. They give you NO usable QoE data so you still can't tell where 
you have trouble in your network or individual customers like you can with 
preseem. 

 

We now use preseem for about 11 months and we love it! It's not DPI so don't 
even think that you can shape individual types of traffic like video, updates, 
etc because thats not what it is. 

 

It requires no tweaking or hands-on configuration at all and preseem guys do 
all the work for you. It provides the best QoE data of any service out there 
and really helps tell you what tower, sector, or customer is having a bad 
experience so you can fix it. On top of this valuable data, it does your rate 
plan shaping and it does it damn well to boot. Customers can now max out their 
rate plans without a spike in latency or complaints or laggy gaming or slow web 
browsing. It allows small traffic flows like voip, dns, web browsing, gaming to 
"jump the queue" so to speak so large flows like video and updates don't slow 
everything down. 

 

It's very handy. I've rate shaped my home down to 3 mbps and still was able to 
run 2 Netflix streams, 1 YouTube, plus a voip call and web browse without any 
lag or buffering whatsoever. 

 

I highly recommend anyone do a trial with preseem and you'll be happy campers. 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 1:34 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>  wrote:

Bufferbloat is over-hyped.

Also, https://people.ucsc.edu/~warner/buffer.html

 



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:59:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

Where is this alleged bufferbloat coming from?

 

It can’t be from rate queues.  The highest we set our Mikrotik queues is around 
40 packets before they start dropping packets.  We have pushed the queue depth 
higher to signal congestion to TCP Vegas style implementations.  But at 10 Mbps 
that’s still only ~40 milliseconds of delay.  I don’t think that qualifies as 
buffe

Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[Robert Andrews]

Starlink makes me think of a "Gravity" situation..   If you got a 
collision in that constellation seems you would put up a "shield" of 
space junk...   Or are my orbital mechanics shorts showing?


On 11/14/2018 11:32 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Speaking of Iridium. That was only 77 satellites; at least in the 
original version. How about something like 4400(+) satellites for 
Starlink? Now that looks "scary".


 (warning, we are getting into thread drift)

How it will work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEIUdMiColU

bp


On 11/14/2018 11:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
How about iridium control.  Or geo sync data link. Inmarsat.  Antenna 
would be looking up.  Harder to jam.

*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 12:00 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

Now with drones coming our with LTE control… whats the plan?

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"li...@packetflux.com" 

*Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Date: *Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:50 PM
*To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

So I ended up at their booth today.

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for 
interference hunting, but probably way expensive.  They're doing 
various things with directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type 
of setup where they use various tight pattern antennas either on an 
automatic rotator, or handheld to determine the direction a signal is 
coming from.   Nothing really special except the integration is pretty 
well done


On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary.   Yes, they will 
only sell them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal 
government users.   So probably have little risk of one showing up in 
most of our markets, except for of course the fact that the military 
probably already has similar technology.   They've got one which puts 
20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360* of blocking.   
They've also got one which has a pistol grip attached to a directional 
antenna and somewhat lower output power.


Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell, 
although I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple 
copies it would probably pay for development.   But I sure wouldn't 
want one of these turned on in my neighborhood.


On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are
not commonly used.

*From:*Forrest Christian (List Account)

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:05 PM

*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns
about either bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or
alternatively there are cases where you need the airspace clear. 
This should handle both issues, but I'm not sure if either is

worth wiping  the ism bands for a not small radius.

They also supposedly have drone detection gear.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes
 
wrote:

Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150
watt incandescent light bulb.

You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you
permanent cornea damage.

*From:*Ken Hohhof

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:16 PM

*To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power? I hope
they mean backpack size, not that someone would literally
wear that on their back while it was transmitting. 
Oooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!


*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Forrest
Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:11 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* [AFMUG] Scary Product...

I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting),
and one of the exhibitors is selling this:

http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf

Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before
one of these (or some similar product) shows up in 

Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

[Darin Steffl]

We didn't switch to Preseem for the price. We paid more for saisei when it
was the throughout pricing model and it was just too complicated. It was
cool like procera but I felt like we were playing God with shaping certain
categories like video, Xbox downloads, etc and I was spending too much time
tinkering.

My effort was better spent in preseem fixing problems like interference on
backhauls, congested ap's, spending money elevating our network to epmp.

So having tried them all so to speak, I would still pick preseem again
knowing that I spend more time on selling service and upgrading our network
instead of playing God and shaping down video and updates. It was fun but
then I did start to feel bad about it.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 3:58 PM Ken Hohhof  I know that WISPs tend to like things in inverse proportion to their
> price.  And it appears that Procera, Saisei and Preseem are in the ballpark
> of 4x, 2x and 1x on price.  It’s easier to compare Saisei and Preseem since
> they both have per subscriber pricing.
>
>
>
> All the comments about Preseem have been that it works good, not that it’s
> cheaper, but I have to ask.  If the price per subscriber was the same
> between Saisei and Preseem, would you still prefer Preseem?
>
>
>
> It does make sense that supporting DPI and constantly updating the DPI
> signatures would cost more than a flow based product that doesn’t try to do
> DPI.  I also understand (maybe) the fact that with DPI you have to
> configure and constantly tweak the policies according to what you want to
> prioritize, and that maybe it’s better to have something that you just plug
> it in and it just works.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:21 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions
>
>
>
> I'll say we've used procera, saisei, in the past and they're DPI. They're
> cool and you can do lots of things with them. They also require hands-on
> attention and tweaking. They give you NO usable QoE data so you still can't
> tell where you have trouble in your network or individual customers like
> you can with preseem.
>
>
>
> We now use preseem for about 11 months and we love it! It's not DPI so
> don't even think that you can shape individual types of traffic like video,
> updates, etc because thats not what it is.
>
>
>
> It requires no tweaking or hands-on configuration at all and preseem guys
> do all the work for you. It provides the best QoE data of any service out
> there and really helps tell you what tower, sector, or customer is having a
> bad experience so you can fix it. On top of this valuable data, it does
> your rate plan shaping and it does it damn well to boot. Customers can now
> max out their rate plans without a spike in latency or complaints or laggy
> gaming or slow web browsing. It allows small traffic flows like voip, dns,
> web browsing, gaming to "jump the queue" so to speak so large flows like
> video and updates don't slow everything down.
>
>
>
> It's very handy. I've rate shaped my home down to 3 mbps and still was
> able to run 2 Netflix streams, 1 YouTube, plus a voip call and web browse
> without any lag or buffering whatsoever.
>
>
>
> I highly recommend anyone do a trial with preseem and you'll be happy
> campers.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 1:34 PM Mike Hammett 
> Bufferbloat is over-hyped.
>
> Also, https://people.ucsc.edu/~warner/buffer.html
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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> sender.]
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> 
> --
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" 
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:59:53 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions
>
> Where is this alleged bufferbloat coming from?
>
>
>
> It can’t be from rate queues.  The highest we set our Mikrotik queues is
> around 40 packets before they start dropping packets.  We have pushed the
> queue depth higher to signal congestion to TCP Vegas style
> implementations.  But at 10 Mbps that’s still only ~40 milliseconds of
> del

Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Justin Marshal]

Lol, I know right

I think the only answers I got on the epmp forums was from myself

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 1:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

Motorola pls halp =(


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Justin Marshal 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
I figured out that I was getting the SSH error only when logged into an SM via 
mac-telnet.  I was trying to rescue an SM that my script only made it half way 
through before choking on an error

Once I connected via SSH the config set command worked.

But now that I think about it, it is kind of worrying that you can’t set IP 
addresses through mac-telnet.  You would think it’s the same exact shell with 
the same commands available

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

IP Address
config set networkBridgeIPAddressMode 1 //1 static, 2 dhcp (default)
config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.15.0.10
config set networkBridgeNetmask 255.255.255.0
config set networkBridgeGatewayIP 10.15.0.1
config save
config apply

I tried with set as an IP and string with no response either on 3.5.1 AP


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne 
St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Justin Marshal 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Not that I’m having any better luck with SSH

>config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.10.73.233
Error: Parameter "10.10.73.233" doesn't exist


Not sure what the issue is.  I've had success with this in the past (prior to 
3.5.1)


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Justin Marshal
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

Hi,

Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management IP 
Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's

For e.g.
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.73.233

Gives the following error
Error in packet.
Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.

However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in the 
same subnet, it works fine:
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.208.240
iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240

Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy 100’s/450’s or 
even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?

Thanks,
Justin



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Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

[Ken Hohhof]

I know that WISPs tend to like things in inverse proportion to their price.  
And it appears that Procera, Saisei and Preseem are in the ballpark of 4x, 2x 
and 1x on price.  It’s easier to compare Saisei and Preseem since they both 
have per subscriber pricing.

 

All the comments about Preseem have been that it works good, not that it’s 
cheaper, but I have to ask.  If the price per subscriber was the same between 
Saisei and Preseem, would you still prefer Preseem?

 

It does make sense that supporting DPI and constantly updating the DPI 
signatures would cost more than a flow based product that doesn’t try to do 
DPI.  I also understand (maybe) the fact that with DPI you have to configure 
and constantly tweak the policies according to what you want to prioritize, and 
that maybe it’s better to have something that you just plug it in and it just 
works.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 1:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

I'll say we've used procera, saisei, in the past and they're DPI. They're cool 
and you can do lots of things with them. They also require hands-on attention 
and tweaking. They give you NO usable QoE data so you still can't tell where 
you have trouble in your network or individual customers like you can with 
preseem. 

 

We now use preseem for about 11 months and we love it! It's not DPI so don't 
even think that you can shape individual types of traffic like video, updates, 
etc because thats not what it is. 

 

It requires no tweaking or hands-on configuration at all and preseem guys do 
all the work for you. It provides the best QoE data of any service out there 
and really helps tell you what tower, sector, or customer is having a bad 
experience so you can fix it. On top of this valuable data, it does your rate 
plan shaping and it does it damn well to boot. Customers can now max out their 
rate plans without a spike in latency or complaints or laggy gaming or slow web 
browsing. It allows small traffic flows like voip, dns, web browsing, gaming to 
"jump the queue" so to speak so large flows like video and updates don't slow 
everything down. 

 

It's very handy. I've rate shaped my home down to 3 mbps and still was able to 
run 2 Netflix streams, 1 YouTube, plus a voip call and web browse without any 
lag or buffering whatsoever. 

 

I highly recommend anyone do a trial with preseem and you'll be happy campers. 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 1:34 PM Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>  wrote:

Bufferbloat is over-hyped.

Also, https://people.ucsc.edu/~warner/buffer.html

 



-
Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
   
  
  
 
  Midwest Internet Exchange
   
  
 
  The Brothers WISP
   
 





  _  


From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:59:53 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

Where is this alleged bufferbloat coming from?

 

It can’t be from rate queues.  The highest we set our Mikrotik queues is around 
40 packets before they start dropping packets.  We have pushed the queue depth 
higher to signal congestion to TCP Vegas style implementations.  But at 10 Mbps 
that’s still only ~40 milliseconds of delay.  I don’t think that qualifies as 
bufferbloat.

 

Where in a typical WISP network are these huge buffers?  Are you talking about 
APs at 100% of capacity?  I admit I don’t know how much data an AP will buffer 
waiting for a timeslot to send the data over the air.  But the only time I see 
latencies soar toward 1 second under load is on my one hated WiMAX basestation, 
and I think that may be due to excessive HARQ retries or something.

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Dev
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 11:41 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bandwidth management appliance opinions

 

I looked at a couple variations of buffer bloat management, and have decided to 
build my own and maybe just open source the thing for “people who feel 50K 
seems excessive” and just need some basic functionality on a vanilla Linux box. 
The open source tech is out there, it’s just tying it all together in some sane 
way. I hope others will open source what they’re working on too, that’s what 
the community is about. I feel like the community is 

Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Speaking of Iridium. That was only 77 satellites; at least in the
  original version. How about something like 4400(+) satellites for
  Starlink? Now that looks "scary". 

    (warning, we are getting into thread drift)
How it will work:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEIUdMiColU

bp



On 11/14/2018 11:04 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  

  How about iridium control.  Or geo sync data link. 
Inmarsat.  Antenna would be looking up.  Harder to jam.  
  

   
  
From: Gino
A. Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 12:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...
  

 
  
  

  Now with drones coming our with LTE
control… whats the plan? 
   
  
  Gino Villarini
  
Founder/President
@gvillarini
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From: AF
 on behalf of
"li...@packetflux.com" 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:50
PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...
  
  
 
  
  
So I ended up at their booth today.
  

   


  The drone detector is kinda cool,
might actually be useful for interference hunting,
but probably way expensive.  They're doing various
things with directional antennas operating in a
'radar' type of setup where they use various tight
pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or
handheld to determine the direction a signal is
coming from.   Nothing really special except the
integration is pretty well done


   


  On the other hand, the jammers
get even more scary.   Yes, they will only sell them
to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal
government users.   So probably have little risk of
one showing up in most of our markets, except for of
course the fact that the military probably already
has similar technology.   They've got one which puts
20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360*
of blocking.   They've also got one which has a
pistol grip attached to a directional antenna and
somewhat lower output power.   


   


  Interesting product, not sure how
many of these they're going to sell, although I
guess if you got even a small military to buy
multiple copies it would probably pay for
development.   But I sure wouldn't want one of these
turned on in my neighborhood.

  
   
  

  On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM
Chuck McCown 
wrote:


  

  

  If you are a smart bad
  actor,  you will be using bands that are
  not commonly used.  


  

   


 

Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[chuck]

How about iridium control.  Or geo sync data link.  Inmarsat.  Antenna would be 
looking up.  Harder to jam.  

From: Gino A. Villarini 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 12:00 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

Now with drones coming our with LTE control… whats the plan? 

 

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From: AF  on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com" 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

 

So I ended up at their booth today. 

 

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for interference 
hunting, but probably way expensive.  They're doing various things with 
directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type of setup where they use 
various tight pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or handheld to 
determine the direction a signal is coming from.   Nothing really special 
except the integration is pretty well done

 

On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary.   Yes, they will only sell 
them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal government users.   So 
probably have little risk of one showing up in most of our markets, except for 
of course the fact that the military probably already has similar technology.   
They've got one which puts 20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360* 
of blocking.   They've also got one which has a pistol grip attached to a 
directional antenna and somewhat lower output power.   

 

Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell, although 
I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple copies it would 
probably pay for development.   But I sure wouldn't want one of these turned on 
in my neighborhood.

 

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are not commonly 
used.  

   

  From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:05 PM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

   

  I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns about either 
bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or alternatively there are cases 
where you need the airspace clear.  This should handle both issues, but I'm not 
sure if either is worth wiping  the ism bands for a not small radius. 

   

  They also supposedly have drone detection gear.

   

  On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes   wrote:

  Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150 watt 
incandescent light bulb.  

  You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you permanent cornea 
damage.  

   

  From: Ken Hohhof 

  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:16 PM

  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

   

  A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power?  I hope they mean 
backpack size, not that someone would literally wear that on their back while 
it was transmitting.  Oooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!

   

  From: AF  On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:11 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

   

  I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting), and one of the 
exhibitors is selling this:

   

  http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf

   

  Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before one of these 
(or some similar product) shows up in the middle of someone's network?

   

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Now with drones coming our with LTE control… whats the plan?


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From: AF  on behalf of "li...@packetflux.com" 

Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 2:50 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

So I ended up at their booth today.

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for interference 
hunting, but probably way expensive.  They're doing various things with 
directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type of setup where they use 
various tight pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or handheld to 
determine the direction a signal is coming from.   Nothing really special 
except the integration is pretty well done

On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary.   Yes, they will only sell 
them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal government users.   So 
probably have little risk of one showing up in most of our markets, except for 
of course the fact that the military probably already has similar technology.   
They've got one which puts 20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360* 
of blocking.   They've also got one which has a pistol grip attached to a 
directional antenna and somewhat lower output power.

Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell, although 
I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple copies it would 
probably pay for development.   But I sure wouldn't want one of these turned on 
in my neighborhood.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are not commonly 
used.

From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns about either 
bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or alternatively there are cases 
where you need the airspace clear.  This should handle both issues, but I'm not 
sure if either is worth wiping  the ism bands for a not small radius.

They also supposedly have drone detection gear.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes   wrote:
Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150 watt incandescent 
light bulb.
You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you permanent cornea damage.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:16 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power?  I hope they mean backpack 
size, not that someone would literally wear that on their back while it was 
transmitting.  Oooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!

From: AF  On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting), and one of the 
exhibitors is selling this:

http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf

Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before one of these (or some 
similar product) shows up in the middle of someone's network?

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Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[Jaime Solorza]

I want one

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018, 4:12 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com wrote:

> I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting), and one of the
> exhibitors is selling this:
>
> http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf
>
> Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before one of these (or
> some similar product) shows up in the middle of someone's network?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[chuck]

I will sell you one...

For educational purposes only...

In kit form...

Ships from Cuba...

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

So I ended up at their booth today. 

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for interference 
hunting, but probably way expensive.  They're doing various things with 
directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type of setup where they use 
various tight pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or handheld to 
determine the direction a signal is coming from.   Nothing really special 
except the integration is pretty well done

On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary.   Yes, they will only sell 
them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal government users.   So 
probably have little risk of one showing up in most of our markets, except for 
of course the fact that the military probably already has similar technology.   
They've got one which puts 20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360* 
of blocking.   They've also got one which has a pistol grip attached to a 
directional antenna and somewhat lower output power.   

Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell, although 
I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple copies it would 
probably pay for development.   But I sure wouldn't want one of these turned on 
in my neighborhood.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

  If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are not commonly 
used.  

  From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:05 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

  I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns about either 
bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or alternatively there are cases 
where you need the airspace clear.  This should handle both issues, but I'm not 
sure if either is worth wiping  the ism bands for a not small radius. 

  They also supposedly have drone detection gear.

  On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes   wrote:


  Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150 watt 
incandescent light bulb.  
  You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you permanent cornea 
damage.  

  From: Ken Hohhof 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:16 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

  A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power?  I hope they mean 
backpack size, not that someone would literally wear that on their back while 
it was transmitting.  Oooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!



  From: AF  On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:11 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Product...



  I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting), and one of the 
exhibitors is selling this:



  http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf



  Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before one of these 
(or some similar product) shows up in the middle of someone's network?



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Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

So I ended up at their booth today.

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for interference
hunting, but probably way expensive.  They're doing various things with
directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type of setup where they use
various tight pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or handheld
to determine the direction a signal is coming from.   Nothing really
special except the integration is pretty well done

On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary.   Yes, they will only
sell them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal government
users.   So probably have little risk of one showing up in most of our
markets, except for of course the fact that the military probably already
has similar technology.   They've got one which puts 20W each band per
sector into 4 sectors to get 360* of blocking.   They've also got one which
has a pistol grip attached to a directional antenna and somewhat lower
output power.

Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell,
although I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple copies it
would probably pay for development.   But I sure wouldn't want one of these
turned on in my neighborhood.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:

> If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are not
> commonly used.
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:05 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...
>
> I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns about
> either bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or alternatively there
> are cases where you need the airspace clear.  This should handle both
> issues, but I'm not sure if either is worth wiping  the ism bands for a not
> small radius.
>
> They also supposedly have drone detection gear.
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net wrote:
>
>> The webpage isn’t loading, but I’m not sure what this is supposed to
>> accomplish. Any UAV worth it’s weight in salt will return home if it loses
>> connection.
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2018, at 18:31,   wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150 watt
>> incandescent light bulb.
>> You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you permanent cornea
>> damage.
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 4:16 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Product...
>>
>>
>> A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power?  I hope they mean
>> backpack size, not that someone would literally wear that on their back
>> while it was transmitting.  Oooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian
>> (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:11 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Scary Product...
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting), and one of the
>> exhibitors is selling this:
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before one of these
>> (or some similar product) shows up in the middle of someone's network?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Josh Luthman]

Motorola pls halp =(


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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Justin Marshal  wrote:

> I figured out that I was getting the SSH error only when logged into an SM
> via mac-telnet.  I was trying to rescue an SM that my script only made it
> half way through before choking on an error
>
>
>
> Once I connected via SSH the config set command worked.
>
>
>
> But now that I think about it, it is kind of worrying that you can’t set
> IP addresses through mac-telnet.  You would think it’s the same exact shell
> with the same commands available
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:19 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP
> Bridged SM's
>
>
>
> IP Address
>
> config set networkBridgeIPAddressMode 1 //1 static, 2 dhcp (default)
>
> config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.15.0.10
>
> config set networkBridgeNetmask 255.255.255.0
>
> config set networkBridgeGatewayIP 10.15.0.1
>
> config save
>
> config apply
>
>
>
> I tried with set as an IP and string with no response either on 3.5.1 AP
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> 
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Justin Marshal 
> wrote:
>
> Not that I’m having any better luck with SSH
>
>
>
> >config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.10.73.233
>
> Error: Parameter "10.10.73.233" doesn't exist
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure what the issue is.  I've had success with this in the past (prior
> to 3.5.1)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Justin Marshal
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged
> SM's
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management
> IP Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's
>
>
>
> For e.g.
>
> snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a
> 10.10.73.233
>
>
>
> Gives the following error
>
> Error in packet.
>
> Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.
>
>
>
> However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in
> the same subnet, it works fine:
>
> snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a
> 10.10.208.240
>
> iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240
>
>
>
> Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy
> 100’s/450’s or even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
>
> Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Justin Marshal]

I figured out that I was getting the SSH error only when logged into an SM via 
mac-telnet.  I was trying to rescue an SM that my script only made it half way 
through before choking on an error

Once I connected via SSH the config set command worked.

But now that I think about it, it is kind of worrying that you can’t set IP 
addresses through mac-telnet.  You would think it’s the same exact shell with 
the same commands available

From: AF  On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 11:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

IP Address
config set networkBridgeIPAddressMode 1 //1 static, 2 dhcp (default)
config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.15.0.10
config set networkBridgeNetmask 255.255.255.0
config set networkBridgeGatewayIP 10.15.0.1
config save
config apply

I tried with set as an IP and string with no response either on 3.5.1 AP


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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Justin Marshal 
mailto:just...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
Not that I’m having any better luck with SSH

>config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.10.73.233
Error: Parameter "10.10.73.233" doesn't exist


Not sure what the issue is.  I've had success with this in the past (prior to 
3.5.1)


From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Justin Marshal
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

Hi,

Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management IP 
Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's

For e.g.
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.73.233

Gives the following error
Error in packet.
Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.

However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in the 
same subnet, it works fine:
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.208.240
iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240

Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy 100’s/450’s or 
even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?

Thanks,
Justin



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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber11 and CPR90G Input

[chuck]

https://www.pasternack.com/images/ProductPDF/PE9836.pdf

But that is a rectangular waveguide adapter and will not allow dual pol.
Does your antenna have a circular or rectangular waveguide?  Got a photo?

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:48 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber11 and CPR90G Input

Anyone found such adapters anywhere?
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:17 PM Tim Hardy  wrote:


VHLP - ValuLine

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:08 PM,   wrote:
>
> I just made adapters for the VLP (I think).  Terribly slow in getting 
> them out.

> (Also working Exalt).
>
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>
> Has anyone connected and AirFiber11 to an Andrew dish with a CPR90G
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Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber11 and CPR90G Input

[Matt]

Anyone found such adapters anywhere?
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:17 PM Tim Hardy  wrote:
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> VHLP - ValuLine
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:08 PM,   wrote:
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> > I just made adapters for the VLP (I think).  Terribly slow in getting them 
> > out.
> > (Also working Exalt).
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Matt
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:03 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: [AFMUG] AirFiber11 and CPR90G Input
> >
> > Has anyone connected and AirFiber11 to an Andrew dish with a CPR90G
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Adair Winter]

Depends on the size and how you can figure it but 700 to $1,000

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 10:27 AM Ben Royer  Hey Adair,
>
> Mind me asking what one of these runs roughly?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
> *From:* Adair Winter 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:58 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures
>
> www.amprod.us
> 
> minifort.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:56 PM Ben Royer  wrote:
>
>> Hey WispWorld,
>>
>> What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way
>> up in price, so shopping around.
>>
>> Thank you,
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>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Ben Royer]

Hey Adair,

Mind me asking what one of these runs roughly?

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Adair Winter 
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

www.amprod.us minifort. 


On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:56 PM Ben Royer  wrote:

  Hey WispWorld,

  What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way up 
in price, so shopping around.

  Thank you,
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  Royell Communications, Inc.
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Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Josh Luthman]

IP Address
config set networkBridgeIPAddressMode 1 //1 static, 2 dhcp (default)
config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.15.0.10
config set networkBridgeNetmask 255.255.255.0
config set networkBridgeGatewayIP 10.15.0.1
config save
config apply

I tried with set as an IP and string with no response either on 3.5.1 AP


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Justin Marshal  wrote:

> Not that I’m having any better luck with SSH
>
>
>
> >config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.10.73.233
>
> Error: Parameter "10.10.73.233" doesn't exist
>
>
>
>
>
> Not sure what the issue is.  I've had success with this in the past (prior
> to 3.5.1)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of * Justin Marshal
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:26 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged
> SM's
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management
> IP Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's
>
>
>
> For e.g.
>
> snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a
> 10.10.73.233
>
>
>
> Gives the following error
>
> Error in packet.
>
> Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.
>
>
>
> However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in
> the same subnet, it works fine:
>
> snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a
> 10.10.208.240
>
> iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240
>
>
>
> Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy
> 100’s/450’s or even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
>
> Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

[Steve Jones]

Thats what im asking, the relayed stuff wont have the proper dkim. Can it
still be allowed if it passes spf?



On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:39 AM Dennis Burgess via AF 
wrote:

> Yes, it basically states that as long as you are sending with the proper
> DKIM and SPF what the mail server should do.  If it not,  then you can tell
> it to reject.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
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>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:20 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation
>
>
>
> yes, just relaying emails without having to actually sent up
> authentication to the email server. nothing more fun than 30 devices that
> authenticate to a mailserver and doing a password change.
>
> so i just open relay through an on network server, no authentication. Same
> thing with powercode outbound emails, no authentication to our mailserver,
> just SPF policy.
>
>
>
> Does Dmarc allow me to allow authorized hosts that are present in SPF?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:13 AM Dennis Burgess via AF 
> wrote:
>
> Depends on what you are doing.  If you are relaying SMTP traffic after
> scanning it, not really of any one domain, then no that won’t work.My
> assumption though is that you are doing this for a company that has devices
> etc. and you need to relay e-mails.  My recommendation is that you install
> your dkim, setup your SFP as well as implement DMARC, this would
> effectively prevent spoofing of your domain.  Assuming that is what you are
> doing.Note that everyone should be looking at dmarc, dkim and spf to
> validate emails.  J
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:00 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation
>
>
>
> On alot of the networks we manage, we set up an smtp relay locally on the
> network for thinks like scan to email (alot of scanners and printers that
> were older didnt have authentication) and other notification/alert sending
> devices. The relay is IP restricted. We used IP SPF to allow the sending.
>
> We also did SPF to allow things like webservers to send on behalf of.
>
> If we implement dkim, will that require that the signature be attached to
> ALL domain emails, or will SPF still be functional for the relays and
> whatnot through dmarc rules?
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Andy Trimmell]

I've exclusively went to https://www.saginawcontrol.com/ for all my
enclosures. They're extremely cheaper than any place I've shopped. 

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 3:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

Hey WispWorld,

 

What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way
up in price, so shopping around.

 

Thank you,
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Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

[Dennis Burgess via AF]

Yes, it basically states that as long as you are sending with the proper DKIM 
and SPF what the mail server should do.  If it not,  then you can tell it to 
reject.


Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:20 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

yes, just relaying emails without having to actually sent up authentication to 
the email server. nothing more fun than 30 devices that authenticate to a 
mailserver and doing a password change.
so i just open relay through an on network server, no authentication. Same 
thing with powercode outbound emails, no authentication to our mailserver, just 
SPF policy.

Does Dmarc allow me to allow authorized hosts that are present in SPF?

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:13 AM Dennis Burgess via AF 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:
Depends on what you are doing.  If you are relaying SMTP traffic after scanning 
it, not really of any one domain, then no that won’t work.My assumption 
though is that you are doing this for a company that has devices etc. and you 
need to relay e-mails.  My recommendation is that you install your dkim, setup 
your SFP as well as implement DMARC, this would effectively prevent spoofing of 
your domain.  Assuming that is what you are doing.Note that everyone should 
be looking at dmarc, dkim and spf to validate emails.  ☺


Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with 
www.towercoverage.com

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:00 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

On alot of the networks we manage, we set up an smtp relay locally on the 
network for thinks like scan to email (alot of scanners and printers that were 
older didnt have authentication) and other notification/alert sending devices. 
The relay is IP restricted. We used IP SPF to allow the sending.
We also did SPF to allow things like webservers to send on behalf of.
If we implement dkim, will that require that the signature be attached to ALL 
domain emails, or will SPF still be functional for the relays and whatnot 
through dmarc rules?
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Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

[Steve Jones]

yes, just relaying emails without having to actually sent up authentication
to the email server. nothing more fun than 30 devices that authenticate to
a mailserver and doing a password change.
so i just open relay through an on network server, no authentication. Same
thing with powercode outbound emails, no authentication to our mailserver,
just SPF policy.

Does Dmarc allow me to allow authorized hosts that are present in SPF?

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:13 AM Dennis Burgess via AF 
wrote:

> Depends on what you are doing.  If you are relaying SMTP traffic after
> scanning it, not really of any one domain, then no that won’t work.My
> assumption though is that you are doing this for a company that has devices
> etc. and you need to relay e-mails.  My recommendation is that you install
> your dkim, setup your SFP as well as implement DMARC, this would
> effectively prevent spoofing of your domain.  Assuming that is what you are
> doing.Note that everyone should be looking at dmarc, dkim and spf to
> validate emails.  J
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:00 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation
>
>
>
> On alot of the networks we manage, we set up an smtp relay locally on the
> network for thinks like scan to email (alot of scanners and printers that
> were older didnt have authentication) and other notification/alert sending
> devices. The relay is IP restricted. We used IP SPF to allow the sending.
>
> We also did SPF to allow things like webservers to send on behalf of.
>
> If we implement dkim, will that require that the signature be attached to
> ALL domain emails, or will SPF still be functional for the relays and
> whatnot through dmarc rules?
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Re: [AFMUG] Archives

[Mike Hammett]

Click the link at the bottom of every e-mail. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




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From: "Paul McCall"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:17:05 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Archives 



Where are the AFMUG archives located? 

I clicked around a bit on AGMUG.COM without success at finding them 

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[AFMUG] Archives

[Paul McCall]

Where are the AFMUG archives located?

I clicked around a bit on AGMUG.COM without success at finding them

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Re: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

[Dennis Burgess via AF]

Depends on what you are doing.  If you are relaying SMTP traffic after scanning 
it, not really of any one domain, then no that won’t work.My assumption 
though is that you are doing this for a company that has devices etc. and you 
need to relay e-mails.  My recommendation is that you install your dkim, setup 
your SFP as well as implement DMARC, this would effectively prevent spoofing of 
your domain.  Assuming that is what you are doing.Note that everyone should 
be looking at dmarc, dkim and spf to validate emails.  ☺


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Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:00 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

On alot of the networks we manage, we set up an smtp relay locally on the 
network for thinks like scan to email (alot of scanners and printers that were 
older didnt have authentication) and other notification/alert sending devices. 
The relay is IP restricted. We used IP SPF to allow the sending.
We also did SPF to allow things like webservers to send on behalf of.
If we implement dkim, will that require that the signature be attached to ALL 
domain emails, or will SPF still be functional for the relays and whatnot 
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Dennis Burgess via AF]

We had these made for us..
https://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2517&idcategory=22
[cid:image002.jpg@01D47BF9.2CB0BB80]

We had a job where we had to have non-rusting gear on 911 towers, plus we 
needed space for power supplies, etc. It has a back plate, made of Aluminum, so 
no rusting, and has 13+U of rackmount space.  We redesigned them a bit to fit a 
Netonix 24 port POE perfectly inside, with enough room for fiber connections in 
the front.  It has a door holder, and comes with a key, but you can replace it 
with whatever you wish.  IT also have meshed venting, and we have both a pole 
mount kit as well as a thermostat controlled fan for these units.   We have 
been selling these for quite a while, we have had some customers put two one 
for batteries in the bottom and then one with all of the electronics in the top.

Hit me or my team up if interested off-list.



Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition"
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
Office: 314-735-0270  Website: 
http://www.linktechs.net
Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ben Royer
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:55 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Enclosures

Hey WispWorld,

What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way up in 
price, so shopping around.

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net
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[AFMUG] dkim dmarc implementation

[Steve Jones]

On alot of the networks we manage, we set up an smtp relay locally on the
network for thinks like scan to email (alot of scanners and printers that
were older didnt have authentication) and other notification/alert sending
devices. The relay is IP restricted. We used IP SPF to allow the sending.
We also did SPF to allow things like webservers to send on behalf of.
If we implement dkim, will that require that the signature be attached to
ALL domain emails, or will SPF still be functional for the relays and
whatnot through dmarc rules?
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Timothy Steele]

I really like charters new Dmarc box anyone know of where we can get one
like that?

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 9:57 AM  wrote:

> The mini fort uses a key (like to wind a clock) with a female hex.  AmProd
> also sells a more slender tool with different size sockets at each end.
> You can also use a needle nose pliers to open the cabinet in a pinch.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:12 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures
>
>
>
> But was the handle like a big separate key to wind a clock, or just a
> regular handle?
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:26 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures
>
>
>
> Huh.the minifort I have didn't need a key.  Just a 1/4 turn handle
> with a hole for a padlock.
>
> On 11/13/2018 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> My only complaint about them is the stupid special key to open the door.
> I wonder if they have another option.  DDB cabinets just have a regular
> handle.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Adair Winter
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:58 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures
>
>
>
> www.amprod.us minifort.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:56 PM Ben Royer  wrote:
>
> Hey WispWorld,
>
>
>
> What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way
> up in price, so shopping around.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 www.royell.net
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[wispalists]

The mini fort uses a key (like to wind a clock) with a female hex.  AmProd also 
sells a more slender tool with different size sockets at each end.  You can 
also use a needle nose pliers to open the cabinet in a pinch.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:12 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

But was the handle like a big separate key to wind a clock, or just a regular 
handle?

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:26 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

Huh.the minifort I have didn't need a key.  Just a 1/4 turn handle with a 
hole for a padlock.

On 11/13/2018 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

My only complaint about them is the stupid special key to open the door.  I 
wonder if they have another option.  DDB cabinets just have a regular handle.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Adair Winter
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

www.amprod.us   minifort.

 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:56 PM Ben Royer mailto:operati...@royell.net> > wrote:

Hey WispWorld,

 

What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way up in 
price, so shopping around.

 

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net  

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Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

[Ken Hohhof]

But was the handle like a big separate key to wind a clock, or just a regular 
handle?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 10:26 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

Huh.the minifort I have didn't need a key.  Just a 1/4 turn handle with a 
hole for a padlock.

On 11/13/2018 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

My only complaint about them is the stupid special key to open the door.  I 
wonder if they have another option.  DDB cabinets just have a regular handle.

 

From: AF    On Behalf 
Of Adair Winter
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:58 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Enclosures

 

www.amprod.us   minifort.

 

 

On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 2:56 PM Ben Royer mailto:operati...@royell.net> > wrote:

Hey WispWorld,

 

What enclosures are you using at tower sites?  The ones we used shot way up in 
price, so shopping around.

 

Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net  

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Re: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Justin Marshal]

Not that I'm having any better luck with SSH

>config set networkBridgeIPAddr 10.10.73.233
Error: Parameter "10.10.73.233" doesn't exist


Not sure what the issue is.  I've had success with this in the past (prior to 
3.5.1)


From: AF  On Behalf Of Justin Marshal
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:26 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

Hi,

Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management IP 
Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's

For e.g.
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.73.233

Gives the following error
Error in packet.
Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.

However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in the 
same subnet, it works fine:
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.208.240
iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240

Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy 100's/450's or 
even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?

Thanks,
Justin


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[AFMUG] Using SNMP to change management IP's on ePMP Bridged SM's

[Justin Marshal]

Hi,

Having a really strange issue trying to use snmpset to change management IP 
Addresses on ePMP Bridged SM's

For e.g.
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.73.233

Gives the following error
Error in packet.
Reason: (badValue) The value given has the wrong type or length.

However, if I run the same command and change the IP to something else in the 
same subnet, it works fine:
snmpset -v 2c -c public 10.10.208.233 1.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 a 
10.10.208.240
iso.3.6.1.4.1.17713.21.3.4.7.2.0 = IpAddress: 10.10.208.240

Why is this?  I didn't use to have this issue before with canopy 100's/450's or 
even ePMP IIRC (maybe a different firmware version)
Is there any way around it besides rewriting everything to use SSH?

Thanks,
Justin


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