Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, the DVR functions work fine for recorded stuff.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 4:21 PM  wrote:

> Do you have a HDD connected?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:11 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
> Yeah, I have an airtv... it works and it's cheap. the biggest problem with
> it, is that it can't pause live tv. other than that, it works reasonably
> well.
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:50 PM  wrote:
>
>> I just ordered airtv
>>
>> Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.
>>
>> We will see...
>>
>>
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>> The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away
>> from the monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast
>> function would work.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>> We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many
>> years. As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may
>> not be playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming
>> "channels", but they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never
>> used them. The only thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other
>> devices on the internal network.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>
>> Try one of these. We’ve used them before.
>> https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.
>>
>> Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
>>
>> My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without
>> subscription.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Joe Novak
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>>
>> Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun (
>> https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is
>> a bit high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device
>> that supports it.  Also see:
>> https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
>> - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version
>> available to be able to setup/manage recordings).
>>
>>
>>
>> There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
>> Roku.  Is there such a beast?
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Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

[Sterling Jacobson]

Nobody has time for that!

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 4:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

We talk about it on the podcast. ;-)


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From: "Sterling Jacobson" mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:45:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability.

I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 
stuff with VLAN.

Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual.



From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Clint Wiley
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ 
ports.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
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Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

Stacked switches are generally not recommended.


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/


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From: "Clint Wiley" 
mailto:cl...@hagerstownfiber.com>>
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Hi,

What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? 
I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco 
routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well.

Thanks,

Clint



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Re: [AFMUG] More SCADA porn and 12.99 Nachos de desebrada

[chuck]

Damn, I am still at the office... and hungry...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] More SCADA porn and 12.99 Nachos de desebrada

We are trying new approach to securing Heliax to pole. 



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Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

[Mike Hammett]

We talk about it on the podcast. ;-) 




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- Original Message -

From: "Sterling Jacobson"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 5:45:46 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network 



I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability. 

I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 
stuff with VLAN. 

Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual. 





From: AF  On Behalf Of Clint Wiley 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network 

Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ 
ports. 


From: AF < af-boun...@af.afmug.com > on behalf of Mike Hammett < 
af...@ics-il.net > 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < af@af.afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network 



Stacked switches are generally not recommended. 


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/
 



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From: "Clint Wiley" < cl...@hagerstownfiber.com > 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network 
Hi, 

What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? 
I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco 
routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. 


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Re: [AFMUG] More SCADA porn and 12.99 Nachos de desebrada

[Jaime Solorza]

They are delicious...at the Tap bar.

On Wed, May 15, 2019, 4:06 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Now those look like real nachos!
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/15/2019 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> We are trying new approach to securing Heliax to pole.
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Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

[Sterling Jacobson]

I don’t know why you wouldn’t stack switches if they have the internal ability.

I don’t use the switches for BGP or any advanced layer3 stuff, just layer2 
stuff with VLAN.

Much much easier to manage as a stack rather than individual.



From: AF  On Behalf Of Clint Wiley
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ 
ports.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

Stacked switches are generally not recommended.


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/


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From: "Clint Wiley" 
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To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Hi,

What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? 
I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco 
routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well.

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Re: [AFMUG] More SCADA porn and 12.99 Nachos de desebrada

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Now those look like real nachos!


bp



On 5/15/2019 2:59 PM, Jaime Solorza
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  We are trying new approach to securing Heliax to
pole. 
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[chuck]

Do you have a HDD connected?

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

Yeah, I have an airtv... it works and it's cheap. the biggest problem with it, 
is that it can't pause live tv. other than that, it works reasonably well.


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:50 PM  wrote:

  I just ordered airtv

  Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.

  We will see...


  From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

  The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away from 
the monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast function 
would work.  

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

  We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many years. 
As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may not be 
playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming "channels", but 
they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never used them. The only 
thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other devices on the internal 
network.



bp


On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm





From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr



Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  



From: Joe Novak 

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr



Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).



There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for 
me.





Joe



On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to 
Roku.  Is there such a beast?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[chuck]

I use philo, I think I have a sling account, hulu, netflix, CBS, amazon.  

From: can...@believewireless.net 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 3:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

Chuck, who are you using for your streaming TV provider now?

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:13 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

  Yeah, I have an airtv... it works and it's cheap. the biggest problem with 
it, is that it can't pause live tv. other than that, it works reasonably well.


  On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:50 PM  wrote:

I just ordered airtv

Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.

We will see...


From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away from 
the monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast function 
would work.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many 
years. As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may not 
be playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming "channels", 
but they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never used them. The 
only thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other devices on the 
internal network.



bp


On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

  Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm





  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr



  Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

  Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

  My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  



  From: Joe Novak 

  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr



  Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).



  There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for 
me.





  Joe



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Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[can...@believewireless.net]

Chuck, who are you using for your streaming TV provider now?

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 5:13 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> Yeah, I have an airtv... it works and it's cheap. the biggest problem with
> it, is that it can't pause live tv. other than that, it works reasonably
> well.
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:50 PM  wrote:
>
>> I just ordered airtv
>>
>> Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.
>>
>> We will see...
>>
>>
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>> The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away
>> from the monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast
>> function would work.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>> We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many
>> years. As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may
>> not be playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming
>> "channels", but they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never
>> used them. The only thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other
>> devices on the internal network.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>>
>> Try one of these. We’ve used them before.
>> https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *
>> ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.
>>
>> Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
>>
>> My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without
>> subscription.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Joe Novak
>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
>>
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>>
>>
>>
>> Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun (
>> https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is
>> a bit high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device
>> that supports it.  Also see:
>> https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
>> - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version
>> available to be able to setup/manage recordings).
>>
>>
>>
>> There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>
>> Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
>> Roku.  Is there such a beast?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, I have an airtv... it works and it's cheap. the biggest problem with
it, is that it can't pause live tv. other than that, it works reasonably
well.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 3:50 PM  wrote:

> I just ordered airtv
>
> Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.
>
> We will see...
>
>
> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
> The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away
> from the monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast
> function would work.
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
>
> We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many
> years. As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may
> not be playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming
> "channels", but they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never
> used them. The only thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other
> devices on the internal network.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:
>
> Try one of these. We’ve used them before.
> https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
>
>
> Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.
>
> Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
>
> My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without
> subscription.
>
>
>
> *From:* Joe Novak
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
>
>
> Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun (
> https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is
> a bit high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device
> that supports it.  Also see:
> https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
> - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version
> available to be able to setup/manage recordings).
>
>
>
> There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for
> me.
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
> Roku.  Is there such a beast?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[chuck]

I just ordered airtv

Cheap enough.  View with a Roku.  No subscription.

We will see...


From: ch...@wbmfg.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:39 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away from the 
monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast function would 
work.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many years. As 
long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may not be 
playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming "channels", but 
they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never used them. The only 
thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other devices on the internal 
network.



bp


On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

  Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm

   

   

  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

   

  Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

  Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

  My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  

   

  From: Joe Novak 

  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

   

  Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

   

  There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for me.

   

   

  Joe

   

  On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to Roku. 
 Is there such a beast?

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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[chuck]

The channelmaster looks good, but it would have to be located far away from the 
monitor I normally view things on.  Not sure how the chromecast function would 
work.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 2:29 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for many years. As 
long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever you may or may not be 
playing) it does the job. It has additional internet/streaming "channels", but 
they never fleshed out the functionality, so we've never used them. The only 
thing I wish it would do is allow us to stream to other devices on the internal 
network.



bp


On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

  Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm

   

   

  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

   

  Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

  Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

  My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  

   

  From: Joe Novak 

  Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

   

  Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

   

  There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for me.

   

   

  Joe

   

  On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to Roku. 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Bill Prince]

  
  
We have had the original ChannelMaster DVR, and now the DVR+ for
  many years. As long as you can live with 2 tuners (plus whatever
  you may or may not be playing) it does the job. It has additional
  internet/streaming "channels", but they never fleshed out the
  functionality, so we've never used them. The only thing I wish it
  would do is allow us to stream to other devices on the internal
  network.


bp



On 5/15/2019 10:47 AM, Andy Trimmell
  wrote:


  
  
  
  
  
Try
one of these. We’ve used them before. https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm
 
 

  
From:
AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
  

 

  

  Rather
  have a widget than an app on a computer.  


  Don’t
  mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.


  My
  tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an
  offering without subscription.  


  

   


  
From:
Joe Novak 
  
  
Sent:
Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
  
  
To:
AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  
  
Subject:
Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
  

  
  
 
  


  

  

  

  

  
Lifetime
Plex + Hd Homerun (https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/).
Start up cost is a bit high,
considering you need to run Plex on
a computer or NAS device that
supports it.  Also see: https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
- Full Roku functionality seems to
still be in development (preview
version available to be able to
setup/manage recordings).
  
  
 
  
  
There
is several others that are more
in-depth to setup, but it works for
me.
  
  
 
  
  
 
  
  
Joe
  

  

  

  

  
  
 
  
  

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  such a beast?

  

  
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[chuck]

I looked at tablo but it appears there is a subscription charge for the 
guide.


-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

tablotv.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

[Clint Wiley]

Interesting. What would you recommend? BTW, I forgot to mention I need SFP+ 
ports.

From: AF  on behalf of Mike Hammett 
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Date: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 9:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

Stacked switches are generally not recommended.


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/


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From: "Clint Wiley" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network
Hi,

What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? 
I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco 
routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Matt]

tablotv.com

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM  wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Seth Mattinen]

On 5/15/19 10:01 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.
Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.


You could look at Plex on a NAS and an HDHomeRun. Plex has a "lifetime" 
Plex Pass option, for whatever the fine print on that means.


https://support.plex.tv/articles/201373823-nas-devices-and-limitations/
https://support.plex.tv/articles/201373803-nas-compatibility-list/

Everything being a subscription sucks. I already have enough 
subscriptions. Everything having an app store and apps also sucks.


Apparently Samsung TV's have the ability to record OTA to an attached 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Joe Novak]

It's more of a server on a computer or NAS, and then applications on your
devices/roku to talk to that server.

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM  wrote:

> Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.
> Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
> My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without
> subscription.
>
> *From:* Joe Novak
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr
>
> Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun (
> https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is
> a bit high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device
> that supports it.  Also see:
> https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
> - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version
> available to be able to setup/manage recordings).
>
> There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for
> me.
>
>
> Joe
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM  wrote:
>
>> Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
>> Roku.  Is there such a beast?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Andy Trimmell]

Try one of these. We’ve used them before. 
https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_OTA_DVR_Bundle_p/cm-7600bdl1tb.htm

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 1:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

 

Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  

Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.

My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  

 

From: Joe Novak 

Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

 

Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

 

There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for me.

 

 

Joe

 

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[chuck]

Rather have a widget than an app on a computer.  
Don’t mind high start up costs, I mind a monthly payment.
My tivo bolt died and it appears they no longer have an offering without 
subscription.  

From: Joe Novak 
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 10:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun 
(https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a bit 
high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that 
supports it.  Also see: 
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
 - Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version 
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for me.



Joe

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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

[Joe Novak]

Lifetime Plex + Hd Homerun (
https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-quatro/). Start up cost is a
bit high, considering you need to run Plex on a computer or NAS device that
supports it.  Also see:
https://support.plex.tv/articles/226463767-frequently-asked-questions-dvr-live-tv/
-
Full Roku functionality seems to still be in development (preview version
available to be able to setup/manage recordings).

There is several others that are more in-depth to setup, but it works for
me.


Joe

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Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP

[Joshua Stump]

Ethernet Services/service points won’t help if operational status is down. 
Admin up = you’ve enabled the port. Operational down = no ethernet link. Check 
to make sure you’re receiving light at router/switch. Does that end show an 
ethernet link? 

 

Joshua Stump

Network Admin

  Fourway.NET

800-733-0062

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:04 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP

 

The more complex the better due to all necessary evils that are needed from end 
to end LOL




On 5/14/19 8:44 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Yes over complicated.  Old units, adding second data connection over fiber.  
Plan is to LAG Data 1 and 2 to increase throughput to over 1 Gig.
 
-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:50 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP
 
I always thought they were overly complicated.
If it's a new unit, tech support will help you set it up.  You'll probably 
never have to look at it again so IMO just let them take care of it.
 
-Adam
 
 
On 5/14/2019 5:42 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote:

Yes you will have to provision a service on them for it to pass traffic.
 
On 5/14/2019 1:46 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Hi Caleb
 
Yes, done that.  Admin status is up.  Operational status is Down
 
What else do I need?  Ethernet Services?  Service Points?
 
Adam
 
-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group   
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP
 
Go to the Interface Manager and turn on/off GE ports that you want to 
use.
1 is the copper port, 2 is the first sfp cage, 3 is the sfp cage that 
may or may not be used for MIMO depending on HW model so probably 
stick with port 2.  It's under the System tab or something on top of 
the tree, don't have one handy to look.
 
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:49 PM SmarterBroadband   
 wrote:

I am trying to get a fiber SFP working in my IP-20C.  I am licensed 
for

two GbE ports.   I must be missing something.

 
 
Can anyone list the steps to get this working?
 
 
 
Thanks
 
 
 
Adam
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network

[Mike Hammett]

Stacked switches are generally not recommended. 


http://thebrotherswisp.com/index.php/thebrotherswisp-87-confluence-rce-bgp-on-various-kit-configuring-edge-switches/
 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Clint Wiley"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 1:41:10 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Stacked switches for small network 



Hi, 

What are some recommended stacked switches for a relatively small FTTH network? 
I’d prefer switches with a DC power option. We’re planning to replace Cisco 
routing with Mikrotik and want to replace switches as well. 


Thanks, 

Clint 


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Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP

[dave]

The more complex the better due to all necessary evils that are needed 
from end to end LOL



On 5/14/19 8:44 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Yes over complicated.  Old units, adding second data connection over fiber.  
Plan is to LAG Data 1 and 2 to increase throughput to over 1 Gig.

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 3:50 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP

I always thought they were overly complicated.
If it's a new unit, tech support will help you set it up.  You'll probably 
never have to look at it again so IMO just let them take care of it.

-Adam


On 5/14/2019 5:42 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote:

Yes you will have to provision a service on them for it to pass traffic.

On 5/14/2019 1:46 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

Hi Caleb

Yes, done that.  Admin status is up.  Operational status is Down

What else do I need?  Ethernet Services?  Service Points?

Adam

-Original Message-
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Caleb Knauer
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP-20C SFP

Go to the Interface Manager and turn on/off GE ports that you want to
use.
1 is the copper port, 2 is the first sfp cage, 3 is the sfp cage that
may or may not be used for MIMO depending on HW model so probably
stick with port 2.  It's under the System tab or something on top of
the tree, don't have one handy to look.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 12:49 PM SmarterBroadband  wrote:

I am trying to get a fiber SFP working in my IP-20C.  I am licensed
for

two GbE ports.   I must be missing something.


Can anyone list the steps to get this working?



Thanks



Adam

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