Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread George Skorup 
Any FCC ID on the back of the radios under the battery? Search that to 
see what they were certified for. You might not find anything if they're 
marketed to hams (saves China money on the labs and certs). In reality, 
who will know and who will care what model radios you're using? Just 
sayin' (not endorsing).


I did our Part 90 601 a few years ago in about an hour and the $260 or 
whatever it was at the time. WQYC725 if you want to look it up. The 
cheap $15-20 Baofeng 888's or whatever they're called for the field 
guys. You just throw them away when they fall apart.


The other option would be MURS. Falls under Part 95 like GMRS, but no 
license is required. FM-N voice only. Think of it like VHF-FM citizens 
band w/ 2-watts output into gain antennas. It's pretty much dead quiet 
on all 5 channels around me, except for some bursts of telemetry once in 
a while. But there's that Part 95 certified device requirement. I see 
businesses using the Baofengs and similar on MURS all the time, so 
again... who knows/cares.


On 5/16/2019 8:57 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Can I use these cheap HTs on these frequencies?
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:35 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

Part 90 business itinerant allows you to do FM-Narrow and/or digital 
voice+data (including encryption) across the lower 48 for practically 
nothing for 10 years. There are 8 VHF and 8 UHF shared frequencies. Do 
the form 601 yourself and pay the FCC. No coordination required. No 
GMRS licensing nonsense for employees.


On 5/16/2019 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


On our community emergency list I think all the people with call 
signs use them. At least intermittently. There are a few people who 
don't use their call signs. Nobody asks.


bp


On 5/16/2019 11:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see 
how my guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  
I guess I will claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will 
probably buy them licenses as time goes on.
Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  
My wife and I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how 
well it will go over with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a 
$25K and 10 years penalty might get them to do it.  Seems silly.

*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know 
anything about Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I 
know a few of the people that head up licensing agencies and they 
say many, like Baofung, violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply 
to you though so take that for what it is worth.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available
programming software makes them relatively easy to set up. We
ran a radio drill this last weekend through our new repeater,
and everything seemed to work pretty well. I've got some
concerns about the location the group picked for the repeater,
but overall, not bad at all.

bp


On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok.


Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster
 wrote:


Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that
have FCC type certification for GMRS service. Some will say
that part 90 certified UHF radios are allowed to be used in
GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios that were
certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the
section for GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you
aren’t so concerned about that certification use these. I have
quite a few various Chinese radios and I have never heard of
this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are
actually still wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter
channels for portable to portable comms only), I would shop
around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF portables
that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old
wide band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and
maybe antennas but they should last. Commercial radio services
are all narrow band now so wide band only radios are no longer
legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a nice deal on
a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular
models ping me off list and I can let you know which models
are good and bad to use. I can point you in the right
direction for programming and such as well.

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com 

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread Chuck McCown 
Can I use these cheap HTs on these frequencies?

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

Part 90 business itinerant allows you to do FM-Narrow and/or digital voice+data 
(including encryption) across the lower 48 for practically nothing for 10 
years. There are 8 VHF and 8 UHF shared frequencies. Do the form 601 yourself 
and pay the FCC. No coordination required. No GMRS licensing nonsense for 
employees.

On 5/16/2019 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

  On our community emergency list I think all the people with call signs use 
them. At least intermittently. There are a few people who don't use their call 
signs. Nobody asks.



bp


On 5/16/2019 11:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see how my 
guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  I guess I will 
claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them licenses 
as time goes on.

Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  My wife 
and I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how well it will go 
over with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years penalty 
might get them to do it.  Seems silly.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything 
about Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the 
people that head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung, violate 
FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for what it is 
worth.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming 
software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last 
weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty well. 
I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the repeater, 
but overall, not bad at all.



bp


On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok. 



Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster  
wrote:


  Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC 
type certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF 
radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios 
that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the section for 
GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that 
certification use these. I have quite a few various Chinese radios and I have 
never heard of this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more 
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually still 
wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter channels for portable to portable 
comms only), I would shop around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF 
portables that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old wide 
band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe antennas but they 
should last. Commercial radio services are all narrow band now so wide band 
only radios are no longer legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a 
nice deal on a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular models 
ping me off list and I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I 
can point you in the right direction for programming and such as well. 



  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies



  Hanoi handi potatoe potato 

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=312039479427=1o1=g=15843251035210015126m===1013962=pla-569078696569=1





Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this 
morning.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread George Skorup 
Part 90 business itinerant allows you to do FM-Narrow and/or digital
voice+data (including encryption) across the lower 48 for practically
nothing for 10 years. There are 8 VHF and 8 UHF shared frequencies. Do the
form 601 yourself and pay the FCC. No coordination required. No GMRS
licensing nonsense for employees.
On 5/16/2019 3:16 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

On our community emergency list I think all the people with call signs use
them. At least intermittently. There are a few people who don't use their
call signs. Nobody asks.


bp



On 5/16/2019 11:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see how my
guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  I guess I will
claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them
licenses as time goes on.

Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  My wife
and I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how well it will
go over with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years
penalty might get them to do it.  Seems silly.

*From:* Lewis Bergman
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything
about Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the
people that head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung,
violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for
what it is worth.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming
> software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this
> last weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty
> well. I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the
> repeater, but overall, not bad at all.
>
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
> Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
> Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC type
> certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF
> radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for
> radios that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the
> section for GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so
> concerned about that certification use these. I have quite a few various
> Chinese radios and I have never heard of this brand, so personally at that
> price I would go with a more known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun.
> Since there are actually still wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter
> channels for portable to portable comms only), I would shop around for some
> real radios such as Motorola UHF portables that will be more durable. You
> should be able to get the old wide band versions cheap. Likely will need
> new batteries and maybe antennas but they should last. Commercial radio
> services are all narrow band now so wide band only radios are no longer
> legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a set in a
> gang charger. If you do look at any particular models ping me off list and
> I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I can point you in
> the right direction for programming and such as well.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
>
>
>
> Hanoi handi potatoe potato
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=312039479427=1o1=g=15843251035210015126m===1013962=pla-569078696569=1
>
>
>
>
>
> Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this morning.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik RADIUS

2019-05-16 Thread Adam Moffett 

Answered my own question:
Mikrotik-Group is the attribute.  The docs make reference to hotspot 
profiles, but also seems to work for PPPoE profiles.  The user will get 
whatever settings are in the default profile for that PPPoE server AND 
then also get settings from the profile specified in the 
"Mikrotik-Group" attribute. Very useful.  Glad we had this talk.




On 5/16/2019 6:22 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Can one of the Mikrotik RADIUS attributes assign a PPPoE Profile?




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[AFMUG] Mikrotik RADIUS

2019-05-16 Thread Adam Moffett 

Can one of the Mikrotik RADIUS attributes assign a PPPoE Profile?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
On our community emergency list I think all the people with call
  signs use them. At least intermittently. There are a few people
  who don't use their call signs. Nobody asks.


bp



On 5/16/2019 11:47 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
  wrote:


  
  

  I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the
Retevis and see how my guys like them.  I got a license so
that will cover family.  I guess I will claim the guys are
adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them licenses
as time goes on.
   
  Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner
on GMRS?  My wife and I are used to it being hams for
decades but not sure how well it will go over with the
guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years
penalty might get them to do it.  Seems silly.  
  

   
  
From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies
  

 
  
  
I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I
  don't know anything about Ham stuff and they may meet that
  are off rules. I know a few of the people that head up
  licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung,
  violate FCC rules. Those rules may not apply to you though
  so take that for what it is worth.
 

  On Tue, May 7, 2019,
12:15 PM Bill Prince 
wrote:
  
  

  We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the
available programming software makes them relatively
easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last
weekend through our new repeater, and everything
seemed to work pretty well. I've got some concerns
about the location the group picked for the
repeater, but overall, not bad at all.
   
  bp



  On
5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
  
  Baofeng are hard to program. 
They seem to work ok.

  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster 
wrote:

  
  

  
Technically you are
supposed to only use radios on GMRS that
have FCC type certification for GMRS
service. Some will say that part 90
certified UHF radios are allowed to be
used in GMRS, I recall that rule was
only for radios that were certified part
90 before the part 95A (I think that’s
the section for GMRS) was set up as a
requirement. Now if you aren’t so
concerned about that certification use
these. I have quite a few various
Chinese radios and I have never heard of
this brand, so personally at that price
I would go with a more known Chinese
brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since
there are actually still wide band GMRS
channels (not the splinter channels for
portable to portable comms only), I
would shop around for some real radios
such as Motorola UHF portables that will
be more durable. You should be able to
get the old wide band versions cheap.
Likely will need new batteries and maybe
antennas but they should last.
Commercial radio services are all narrow
band now so wide band only radios are no
longer legal in those services.
Sometimes you can find a nice deal on a
set in a gang

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread chuck 
Mobile construction crew.  And the vehicles are moving all the time.  

From: Brian Webster 
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 1:21 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

If you are using them in mostly the same area I would just put up a base or 
repeater and put a CW ID unit on it. Most users on a shared repeater do 
identify with their license.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

 

I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see how my 
guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  I guess I will 
claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them licenses 
as time goes on.

 

Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  My wife and 
I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how well it will go over 
with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years penalty might 
get them to do it.  Seems silly.  

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

 

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything about 
Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the people that 
head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung, violate FCC rules. 
Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for what it is worth.

 

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming 
software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last 
weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty well. 
I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the repeater, 
but overall, not bad at all.

   

bp On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok. 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

  Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC 
type certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF 
radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios 
that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the section for 
GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that 
certification use these. I have quite a few various Chinese radios and I have 
never heard of this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more 
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually still 
wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter channels for portable to portable 
comms only), I would shop around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF 
portables that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old wide 
band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe antennas but they 
should last. Commercial radio services are all narrow band now so wide band 
only radios are no longer legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a 
nice deal on a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular models 
ping me off list and I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I 
can point you in the right direction for programming and such as well. 

   

  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com

   

  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

   

  Hanoi handi potatoe potato 

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=312039479427=1o1=g=15843251035210015126m===1013962=pla-569078696569=1

 

 

Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this morning.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread Brian Webster 
If you are using them in mostly the same area I would just put up a base or 
repeater and put a CW ID unit on it. Most users on a shared repeater do 
identify with their license.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 2:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

 

I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see how my 
guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  I guess I will 
claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them licenses 
as time goes on.

 

Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  My wife and 
I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how well it will go over 
with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years penalty might 
get them to do it.  Seems silly.  

 

From: Lewis Bergman 

Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

 

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything about 
Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the people that 
head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung, violate FCC rules. 
Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for what it is worth.

 

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming 
software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last 
weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty well. 
I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the repeater, 
but overall, not bad at all.

 

bp

 

On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok. 

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:

Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC type 
certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF radios 
are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios that 
were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the section for 
GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that 
certification use these. I have quite a few various Chinese radios and I have 
never heard of this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more 
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually still 
wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter channels for portable to portable 
comms only), I would shop around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF 
portables that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old wide 
band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe antennas but they 
should last. Commercial radio services are all narrow band now so wide band 
only radios are no longer legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a 
nice deal on a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular models 
ping me off list and I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I 
can point you in the right direction for programming and such as well. 

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

 

Hanoi handi potatoe potato 

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On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:


https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20
 

 
=df0=312039479427=1o1=g=15843251035210015126m===1013962=pla-569078696569=1

 

 

Gmrs?  Anyone know this radio?  I had it recommended to me this morning.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

2019-05-16 Thread chuck 
I am gonna try a pair of Baofengs and  a pair of the Retevis and see how my 
guys like them.  I got a license so that will cover family.  I guess I will 
claim the guys are adopted if we get busted.  Will probably buy them licenses 
as time goes on.

Does anyone really use their callsigns in a legal manner on GMRS?  My wife and 
I are used to it being hams for decades but not sure how well it will go over 
with the guys.  I guess telling them it is a $25K and 10 years penalty might 
get them to do it.  Seems silly.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies

I would be careful about any of the Chinese radios. I don't know anything about 
Ham stuff and they may meet that are off rules. I know a few of the people that 
head up licensing agencies and they say many, like Baofung, violate FCC rules. 
Those rules may not apply to you though so take that for what it is worth.

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 12:15 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  We use the Baofeng UV-5R with a 15" whip. Using the available programming 
software makes them relatively easy to set up. We ran a radio drill this last 
weekend through our new repeater, and everything seemed to work pretty well. 
I've got some concerns about the location the group picked for the repeater, 
but overall, not bad at all.



bp


On 5/6/2019 1:22 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

Baofeng are hard to program.  They seem to work ok. 



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On May 6, 2019, at 2:09 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:


  Technically you are supposed to only use radios on GMRS that have FCC 
type certification for GMRS service. Some will say that part 90 certified UHF 
radios are allowed to be used in GMRS, I recall that rule was only for radios 
that were certified part 90 before the part 95A (I think that’s the section for 
GMRS) was set up as a requirement. Now if you aren’t so concerned about that 
certification use these. I have quite a few various Chinese radios and I have 
never heard of this brand, so personally at that price I would go with a more 
known Chinese brand such as Baofeng or Woxoun. Since there are actually still 
wide band GMRS channels (not the splinter channels for portable to portable 
comms only), I would shop around for some real radios such as Motorola UHF 
portables that will be more durable. You should be able to get the old wide 
band versions cheap. Likely will need new batteries and maybe antennas but they 
should last. Commercial radio services are all narrow band now so wide band 
only radios are no longer legal in those services. Sometimes you can find a 
nice deal on a set in a gang charger. If you do look at any particular models 
ping me off list and I can let you know which models are good and bad to use. I 
can point you in the right direction for programming and such as well. 



  Thank You,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com

  www.Broadband-Mapping.com



  From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
  Sent: Monday, May 06, 2019 3:08 PM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hanoi talkies



  Hanoi handi potatoe potato 

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 6, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:



https://www.amazon.com/Retevis-Radios-Range-Scrambler-Speaker/dp/B00PVQ5LO8/ref=asc_df_B00PVQ5LO8/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=312039479427=1o1=g=15843251035210015126m===1013962=pla-569078696569=1





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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

2019-05-16 Thread chuck 

Ouch.  If the Airtv doesn't work out I may give this a try.

-Original Message- 
From: Matt

Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2019 7:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr


I looked at tablo but it appears there is a subscription charge for the
guide.



There is an option to pay a one time fee for guide.
https://support.tablotv.com/hc/en-us/articles/201962548-How-much-does-the-Program-Guide-Data-Subscription-cost-


tablotv.com

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM  wrote:
>
> Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
> Roku.  Is there such a beast?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT ota dvr

2019-05-16 Thread Matt 
> I looked at tablo but it appears there is a subscription charge for the
> guide.
>

There is an option to pay a one time fee for guide.
https://support.tablotv.com/hc/en-us/articles/201962548-How-much-does-the-Program-Guide-Data-Subscription-cost-

> tablotv.com
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 11:34 AM  wrote:
> >
> > Back to my search for a subscription free OTA DVR that will stream to
> > Roku.  Is there such a beast?

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