[AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[Jaime Solorza]

Enjoy your day
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[Josh Luthman]

Happy birthday!!!

Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 10:46 AM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> Enjoy your day
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[Bill Prince]

  
  
Happy Birthday Lewis!
... and remind everyone that after you run out of fingers and
  toes, they don't count anymore.


bp

On 2/1/2021 7:45 AM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:


  
  Enjoy your day
  
  

  


-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[Larry Smith]

On Mon February 1 2021 09:45, Jaime Solorza wrote:
> Enjoy your day

Happy Birthday.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[James Howard]

Fingers and toes don't count anymore when you run out of them?   That would 
seem obvious but the real question is whether they fell off on their own or if 
you had them removed?

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 9:50 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman


Happy Birthday Lewis!

... and remind everyone that after you run out of fingers and toes, they don't 
count anymore.



bp


On 2/1/2021 7:45 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
Enjoy your day



Total Control Panel

Login


To: 
ja...@litewire.net

From: af-boun...@af.afmug.com





You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow list.



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Lewis unsubscribed along with a bunch of others a few weeks ago.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Happy Birthday Lewis Bergman

Enjoy your day



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

[Carl Peterson]

Kind of related.  I'm trying to figure out some MST stuff and order parts
off of ebay because lead times are insane.

DLX - Small newer connector we would normally order from commscope

Hardened Full Size
Opti-Tip = Corning version Same form factor as Hardened full size.

Are the above two both APC?  If so, what is SCAOPT?



On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:57 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> SC = stab and click
> ST = stab and twist
>
> Josh Luthman
> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> Green always equals angled.  APC   Angled polished connector.  Makes the
>> reflected photons not make it back into the core.  Like a directional
>> couple for RF.
>> APC=Angled Polished Connector  or perhaps it is “Angle”.  That sounds
>> more correct.
>> APC=Green
>>
>> I have heard SC is Subscriber Connection  So SC-APC  To me SC= big
>> LC= Small  There are also LC-APC  Small green.  Not sure who uses those.
>>
>> LC = Longhaul Connector (just things people say, no idea if it is rooted
>> in fact.  Good mnemonic though).
>>
>> UPC= Universal Polished Connector
>> UPC = Blue
>>
>> The end of the connector is straight and flat.  Like two cleaved fibers
>> before you hit the splice button.  Like what you find in a mechanical
>> connector.  Not sure why UPCs are used at all since APC seems to be
>> technologically superior.
>>
>> You can have 4 versions
>> LC-UPC
>> LC-APC
>> SC-UPC
>> SC-APC
>>
>> Again, SC=big, LC=small
>> UPC=blue
>> APC=green
>>
>> What I normally see is blue small (LC-UPC) on everything not related to
>> subscribers.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:53 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?
>>
>> Don't know what PC is.  LC is the teeny thing that goes in an SFP.
>>
>> UPC is uniform blue
>>
>> APC is angled green
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:41 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> Not being a fiber guy, I didn’t know the difference between PC, UPC and
>>> APC, so I had to look it up:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://community.fs.com/blog/pc-vs-upc-vs-apc-connector-selecting-the-right-fiber-connector-type.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:25 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> They screwed us on our optitap premade as well.  See if you can find a
>>> DLX field install kit for ~$10.  We got field install optitap for $10 and
>>> will splice SC/APC on the other end (in which case you'd splice LC-UPC).
>>>
>>> For the record drop cables with LC is pretty weird and UPC is really
>>> really weird.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't expect Commscope to get any better on lead times or accurate ship
>>> dates.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:21 PM Paul McCall  wrote:
>>>
>>> Order placed months ago with Commscope (through a distributor) and
>>> Commscope has pushed back expected delivery until February
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> FXDXK1A0010F Cable, Drop, Flat, Dielectric
>>>
>>> DLX, 10 ft. - MINI DLX CABLE to connect
>>>
>>> Mini-MST DLX to LC-UPC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Need 25 to 50 of these  (they are custom as normally they don’t make
>>> them with an LC-UPC end)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Paul McCall, President *
>>>
>>> *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*
>>>
>>> *658 Old Dixie Highway*
>>>
>>> *Vero Beach, FL 32962*
>>>
>>> *772-564-6800*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>> --
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?

[Carl Peterson]

And semi related so I don't need to figure out any of that other stuff,
does anyone have a DLX MST they would be willing to sell?  something with
6+ ports and a 500' tail on it?

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:33 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Kind of related.  I'm trying to figure out some MST stuff and order parts
> off of ebay because lead times are insane.
>
> DLX - Small newer connector we would normally order from commscope
>
> Hardened Full Size
> Opti-Tip = Corning version Same form factor as Hardened full size.
>
> Are the above two both APC?  If so, what is SCAOPT?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:57 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> SC = stab and click
>> ST = stab and twist
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Green always equals angled.  APC   Angled polished connector.  Makes the
>>> reflected photons not make it back into the core.  Like a directional
>>> couple for RF.
>>> APC=Angled Polished Connector  or perhaps it is “Angle”.  That sounds
>>> more correct.
>>> APC=Green
>>>
>>> I have heard SC is Subscriber Connection  So SC-APC  To me SC= big
>>> LC= Small  There are also LC-APC  Small green.  Not sure who uses those.
>>>
>>> LC = Longhaul Connector (just things people say, no idea if it is rooted
>>> in fact.  Good mnemonic though).
>>>
>>> UPC= Universal Polished Connector
>>> UPC = Blue
>>>
>>> The end of the connector is straight and flat.  Like two cleaved fibers
>>> before you hit the splice button.  Like what you find in a mechanical
>>> connector.  Not sure why UPCs are used at all since APC seems to be
>>> technologically superior.
>>>
>>> You can have 4 versions
>>> LC-UPC
>>> LC-APC
>>> SC-UPC
>>> SC-APC
>>>
>>> Again, SC=big, LC=small
>>> UPC=blue
>>> APC=green
>>>
>>> What I normally see is blue small (LC-UPC) on everything not related to
>>> subscribers.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 8:53 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?
>>>
>>> Don't know what PC is.  LC is the teeny thing that goes in an SFP.
>>>
>>> UPC is uniform blue
>>>
>>> APC is angled green
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:41 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
 Not being a fiber guy, I didn’t know the difference between PC, UPC and
 APC, so I had to look it up:


 https://community.fs.com/blog/pc-vs-upc-vs-apc-connector-selecting-the-right-fiber-connector-type.html





 *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 3, 2020 9:25 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Can anybody make these ?



 They screwed us on our optitap premade as well.  See if you can find a
 DLX field install kit for ~$10.  We got field install optitap for $10 and
 will splice SC/APC on the other end (in which case you'd splice LC-UPC).

 For the record drop cables with LC is pretty weird and UPC is really
 really weird.



 Don't expect Commscope to get any better on lead times or accurate ship
 dates.



 Josh Luthman
 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373





 On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 4:21 PM Paul McCall  wrote:

 Order placed months ago with Commscope (through a distributor) and
 Commscope has pushed back expected delivery until February



 FXDXK1A0010F Cable, Drop, Flat, Dielectric

 DLX, 10 ft. - MINI DLX CABLE to connect

 Mini-MST DLX to LC-UPC



 Need 25 to 50 of these  (they are custom as normally they don’t make
 them with an LC-UPC end)



 *Paul McCall, President *

 *Florida Broadband / PDMNet*

 *658 Old Dixie Highway*

 *Vero Beach, FL 32962*

 *772-564-6800*



 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

 --
 AF mailing list
 AF@af.afmug.com
 http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

>>> --
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707
-- 

[AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Nate Burke]

Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a 
bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  
Or is there something else super special about these crimpers.



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Run away...

[Daniel White]

Grab a couple of sling anchors and no problem. 

https://www.gmesupply.com/fall-protection/anchorage/sling-anchors

If you are moving back and forth a lot you can use something like this:

https://www.gmesupply.com/falltech-2-person-horizontal-lifeline-kit-(60-foot-kernmantle-rope)



photograph  
Daniel White
Co-Founder
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct:+1 (702) 470-2766

> Jaime Solorza 
> February 1, 2021 at 12:45
> Got to the last section by sunlight side...the distance between
> sections is 10 ft. My work lanyards are four feet so I could not
> traverse it laterally safely...to get other corner...I had to abort
> and come down...
> Plus my right arm is at 75%>>>
> He called another group and they have a climbing system for these type
> towersbetter safe than sorry
>
>

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Run away...

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I have been known to just clip the pelican clip over a cross member and slide 
along.  
Not sure if that is kosher or not.  But when I started climbing wood poles 42 
years ago, we didn’t even use our strap until we got to the top.  

From: Daniel White 
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 1:12 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Jaime Solorza 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Run away...

Grab a couple of sling anchors and no problem.  

https://www.gmesupply.com/fall-protection/anchorage/sling-anchors

If you are moving back and forth a lot you can use something like this:

https://www.gmesupply.com/falltech-2-person-horizontal-lifeline-kit-(60-foot-kernmantle-rope)



 Daniel White
Co-Founder 
phone: +1 (702) 470-2770
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
   
 

  Jaime SolorzaFebruary 1, 2021 at 12:45
  Got to the last section by sunlight side...the distance between sections is 
10 ft. My work lanyards are four feet so I could not traverse it laterally 
safely...to get other corner...I had to abort and come down... 
  Plus my right arm is at 75%>>>
  He called another group and they have a climbing system for these type 
towersbetter safe than sorry








-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Mathew Howard]

I don't know what could possibly make a crimper cost that much, but I'd
like to see what looks like.

It's probably a $3 plastic chinese crimper with a Cambium sticker on it...

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 1:46 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I would want more than that for that kind of price.
I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the
  room; walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends
  all crimped with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new
  cables in a nice, neat loop.


bp

On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:


  
  Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just
  shove a bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come
  out the other.  Or is there something else super special about
  these crimpers.
  
  
  
  

  

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Steve Jones]

its as low as 300 elsewhere, but still seems high for a 60 dollar tool.
Platinum sells a kit with the crimer, connectors and a teaster for like 200

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>
> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
> loop.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>
>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Carl Peterson]

What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>
> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
> loop.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>
>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>


-- 

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Colin Stanners]

I've been using cheap Monoprice $20 crimpers for many years without issues.
Problems are often the user, not the tool.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:39 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>
>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>> loop.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Nate Burke]

If they would do the terminations themselves on the top of the tower 
without having to send anyone up, I'd spend $700 in a heartbeat.


On 2/1/2021 3:35 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


I would want more than that for that kind of price.

I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room; 
walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all 
crimped with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a 
nice, neat loop.



bp

On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just 
shove a bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out 
the other.  Or is there something else super special about these 
crimpers.









-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Bill Prince]

  
  
I agree with that. A good technique can make up for a lousy tool.
  I've seen 2 cent crimps made with a $200 crimper (and vice versa).


bp

On 2/1/2021 1:44 PM, Colin Stanners
  wrote:


  
  I've been using cheap Monoprice $20 crimpers for
many years without issues. Problems are often the user, not the
tool.
  
  
  
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:39 PM
  Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these
days.  As tech-proof as possible.  We seem to go through
phases where we end up with a lot of ethernet cable related
performance issues / service calls.  
  
  
On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at
  3:35 PM Bill Prince 
  wrote:


  
I would want more than that for that kind of price.
I would want to be able to leave the connectors and
  cable in the room; walk out, and walk back in a few
  minutes later with the ends all crimped with heat
  shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a
  nice, neat loop.


bp

On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

 Just came across these.  For
  that price I better be able to just shove a bare Cat5
  in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the
  other.  Or is there something else super special about
  these crimpers.
  
  
  
  

  
  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  
  
  
  
  -- 
  

  Carl Peterson
  
  PORT NETWORKS
  401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
  Baltimore, MD 21202
  (410) 637-3707 

  
  -- 
  AF mailing list
  AF@af.afmug.com
  http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

  
  
  

  

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Nate Burke]

One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.  
I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think 
good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since 
I've bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)


On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof 
as possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot 
of ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.


On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince > wrote:


I would want more than that for that kind of price.

I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the
room; walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends
all crimped with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new
cables in a nice, neat loop.


bp


On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just
shove a bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come
out the other.  Or is there something else super special about
these crimpers.



-- 
AF mailing list

AF@af.afmug.com 
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com



--

Carl Peterson

*PORT NETWORKS*

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707





-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Ron M.]

Remember you're talking about the company that's charging $ for a
Raspberry Pi in a box.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:05 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> I agree with that. A good technique can make up for a lousy tool. I've
> seen 2 cent crimps made with a $200 crimper (and vice versa).
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 2/1/2021 1:44 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
>
> I've been using cheap Monoprice $20 crimpers for many years without
> issues. Problems are often the user, not the tool.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:39 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
>> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
>> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>>
>>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>>> loop.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps tell
when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a bit
better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's not
really true since I don't see how this would be the case.

I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I
will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember
that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires
in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way
in solved almost all of my problems..

Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or too
short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not have
that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you push
the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends off, but
for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able to justify
switching.



On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.
> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think
> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've
> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>
> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>
>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>> loop.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
>
> (410) 637-3707
>
>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>


-- 
- Forrest
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[SmarterBroadband]

We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of using 
anything else.

Adam

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List 
Account)
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

 

I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps tell 
when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a bit 
better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's not 
really true since I don't see how this would be the case.

 

I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I will 
agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember that 
finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires in the 
connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way in solved 
almost all of my problems..

 

Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or too 
short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not have that 
problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you push the wire 
all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends off, but for as few 
as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able to justify switching.   

 

 

 

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> > wrote:

One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.  I've 
been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think good quality 
ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've bought ends 
though.   (I bought a bunch)

On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as 
possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of ethernet 
cable related performance issues / service calls.  

 

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I would want more than that for that kind of price.

I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room; walk 
out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped with heat 
shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat loop.

 

bp


On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a bare 
Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or is there 
something else super special about these crimpers.



-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com  
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




 

-- 

Carl Peterson

PORT NETWORKS

401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553

Baltimore, MD 21202

(410) 637-3707 

 

 

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com  
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com




 

-- 

- Forrest

-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Jason McKemie]

I stopped using them years ago since I always had issues getting the
connectors to properly snap into Canopy SMs, plus after you terminate
enough of them it really isn't any easier. I'm still using the crimpers
about 15 years later though.

On Monday, February 1, 2021, SmarterBroadband  wrote:

> We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of
> using anything else.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
> Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts
>
>
>
> I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps
> tell when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a
> bit better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's
> not really true since I don't see how this would be the case.
>
>
>
> I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I
> will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember
> that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires
> in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way
> in solved almost all of my problems..
>
>
>
> Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or too
> short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not have
> that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you push
> the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends off, but
> for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able to justify
> switching.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>
> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.
> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think
> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've
> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>
> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>
> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
> loop.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> 
>
> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Carl Peterson
>
> *PORT NETWORKS*
>
> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
> 
>
> Baltimore, MD 21202
> 
>
> (410) 637-3707
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> - Forrest
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Mathew Howard]

I tried switching to the EZ connectors a few times... I honestly don't like
them. It always seemed to me like they caused more problems than they
solved.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:09 PM Jason McKemie 
wrote:

> I stopped using them years ago since I always had issues getting the
> connectors to properly snap into Canopy SMs, plus after you terminate
> enough of them it really isn't any easier. I'm still using the crimpers
> about 15 years later though.
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2021, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>
>> We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of
>> using anything else.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps
>> tell when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a
>> bit better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's
>> not really true since I don't see how this would be the case.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I
>> will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember
>> that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires
>> in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way
>> in solved almost all of my problems..
>>
>>
>>
>> Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or
>> too short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not
>> have that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you
>> push the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends
>> off, but for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able
>> to justify switching.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.
>> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think
>> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've
>> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>>
>> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
>> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
>> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>
>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>> loop.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>
>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Carl Peterson
>>
>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>> 
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>> 
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> - Forrest
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Steve Jones]

Ezrj45 is the best, as long as you dont buy knockoffs and you maintain your
blades. The minute you start to see a bevel on the cut you change the blade
with branded blades.
Letting them go too long causes hangs and eventually enough exposed copper
to short out

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:50 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> I tried switching to the EZ connectors a few times... I honestly don't
> like them. It always seemed to me like they caused more problems than they
> solved.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:09 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I stopped using them years ago since I always had issues getting the
>> connectors to properly snap into Canopy SMs, plus after you terminate
>> enough of them it really isn't any easier. I'm still using the crimpers
>> about 15 years later though.
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>
>>> We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of
>>> using anything else.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>>> Christian (List Account)
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps
>>> tell when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a
>>> bit better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's
>>> not really true since I don't see how this would be the case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I
>>> will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember
>>> that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires
>>> in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way
>>> in solved almost all of my problems..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or
>>> too short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not
>>> have that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you
>>> push the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends
>>> off, but for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able
>>> to justify switching.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.
>>> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think
>>> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've
>>> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
>>> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
>>> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>>
>>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>>> loop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Carl Peterson
>>>
>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>> 
>>>
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>> 
>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Forrest
>>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I always imagined that the bloody ends of the wires would corrode.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
> 
> 
> I tried switching to the EZ connectors a few times... I honestly don't like 
> them. It always seemed to me like they caused more problems than they solved. 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:09 PM Jason McKemie 
>>  wrote:
>> I stopped using them years ago since I always had issues getting the 
>> connectors to properly snap into Canopy SMs, plus after you terminate enough 
>> of them it really isn't any easier. I'm still using the crimpers about 15 
>> years later though.
>> 
>>> On Monday, February 1, 2021, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>> We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of 
>>> using anything else.
>>> 
>>> Adam
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian 
>>> (List Account)
>>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps tell 
>>> when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a bit 
>>> better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's not 
>>> really true since I don't see how this would be the case.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I 
>>> will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember 
>>> that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires 
>>> in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way 
>>> in solved almost all of my problems..
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or too 
>>> short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not have 
>>> that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you push 
>>> the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends off, but 
>>> for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able to justify 
>>> switching.   
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.  
>>> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think 
>>> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've 
>>> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>> 
>>> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as 
>>> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of 
>>> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>> 
>>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room; walk 
>>> out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped with 
>>> heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat loop.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> bp
>>> 
>>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a 
>>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or 
>>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Carl Peterson
>>> 
>>> PORT NETWORKS
>>> 
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>> 
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>> 
>>> (410) 637-3707 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> - Forrest
>>> 
>> -- 
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
> -- 
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts

[Steve Jones]

as much as the contact points in the SS cards

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 9:23 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I always imagined that the bloody ends of the wires would corrode.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 1, 2021, at 7:49 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:
>
> 
> I tried switching to the EZ connectors a few times... I honestly don't
> like them. It always seemed to me like they caused more problems than they
> solved.
>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 8:09 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>> I stopped using them years ago since I always had issues getting the
>> connectors to properly snap into Canopy SMs, plus after you terminate
>> enough of them it really isn't any easier. I'm still using the crimpers
>> about 15 years later though.
>>
>> On Monday, February 1, 2021, SmarterBroadband  wrote:
>>
>>> We have been using EZ Crimps for 10 plus years now, would not think of
>>> using anything else.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Forrest
>>> Christian (List Account)
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 1, 2021 2:59 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Expensive Cambium parts
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with the ratchet part - I think it's because the ratchet helps
>>> tell when you've crimped enough and not too much.  They also seem to have a
>>> bit better leverage for some reason, although I have a feeling that that's
>>> not really true since I don't see how this would be the case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have done my fair share of terminations without a ratcheting tool.   I
>>> will agree that good quality ends are more important.I also remember
>>> that finally realizing (years ago) that I could actually look at the wires
>>> in the connector before crimping to determine whether they were all the way
>>> in solved almost all of my problems..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nowadays, I have far more problems with trimming the wires too long or
>>> too short.  If I was an installer and did this every day I'd probably not
>>> have that problem.  I've been tempted to move to the EZ rj45's which you
>>> push the wire all the way through and then the crimp tool cuts the ends
>>> off, but for as few as I personally do a year anymore I haven't been able
>>> to justify switching.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 2:51 PM Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my installers says that if they don't ratchet, they're no good.
>>> I've been using the cheap Monoprice crimpers without a problem. I think
>>> good quality ends are more important.  It's been a couple years since I've
>>> bought ends though.   (I bought a bunch)
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2021 3:38 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>> What crimpers are connectors are en vogue these days.  As tech-proof as
>>> possible.  We seem to go through phases where we end up with a lot of
>>> ethernet cable related performance issues / service calls.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 3:35 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would want more than that for that kind of price.
>>>
>>> I would want to be able to leave the connectors and cable in the room;
>>> walk out, and walk back in a few minutes later with the ends all crimped
>>> with heat shrink, and Velcro ties holding the new cables in a nice, neat
>>> loop.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2021 11:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>>>
>>> Just came across these.  For that price I better be able to just shove a
>>> bare Cat5 in one side, and have a heat shrinked end come out the other.  Or
>>> is there something else super special about these crimpers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Carl Peterson
>>>
>>> *PORT NETWORKS*
>>>
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>> 
>>>
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>> 
>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> AF mailing list
>>> AF@af.afmug.com
>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> - Forrest
>>>
>> --
>> AF mailing list
>> AF@af.afmug.com
>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
> --
> AF mailing list
> AF@af.afmug.com
> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
>
-- 
AF mailing list
AF@af.afmug.com
http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com