Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[Steve Jones]

Definetly needs to be clumsy, maybe a broken wrist too

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 4:58 PM  wrote:

> Some people were trained to do this task.  Those people gave access to
> additional people without adequate instruction.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:20 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence
>
>
>
> That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have
> permission to do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP control
> access.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>
> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>
>
>
> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five
> different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
> traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>
>
>
> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[castarritt]

There are rumors that I might on occasion reboot the 450 AP when I mean to
reboot an SM, but nothing proven...  I also came this >< close to rebooting
core NAT router once before I realized the winbox session I was looking at
wasn't the one I had open for that customer's managed wi-fi router.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 2:22 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> Sounds like maybe you send me an address and maybe a noob takes a few
> weeks off to let a knee injury heal. Just sayin, noobs are clumsy
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 1:21 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:
>
>> That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have
>> permission to do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP control
>> access.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>>
>>> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>>> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five
>>> different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
>>> traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[dmmoffett]

Some people were trained to do this task.  Those people gave access to 
additional people without adequate instruction.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Colin Stanners
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 2:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

 

That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have permission to 
do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP control access.

 

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.

 

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com   mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: The weirdest coincidence

 

I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five 
different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx 
traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.  

 

WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[Steve Jones]

Sounds like maybe you send me an address and maybe a noob takes a few weeks
off to let a knee injury heal. Just sayin, noobs are clumsy

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 1:21 PM Colin Stanners  wrote:

> That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have
> permission to do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP control
> access.
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM  wrote:
>
>> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
>> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>>
>>
>>
>> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five
>> different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
>> traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>>
>>
>>
>> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[Colin Stanners]

That brings up big questions of why the noob thought they'd have permission
to do that, and why someone gave them a password with AP control access.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:23 PM  wrote:

> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>
>
>
> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five
> different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
> traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>
>
>
> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[Carl Peterson]

That is a very effective way to disable users.

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:24 PM  wrote:

> Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
> *Subject:* The weirdest coincidence
>
>
>
> I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go down at the same time at five
> different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
> traffic.  Power cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.
>
>
>
> WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[Bill Prince]

  
  
With friends like that, who needs enemies?


bp

On 2/22/2022 10:22 AM,
  dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:


  
  
  
  
Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps
  trying to disable users.
 
 

  
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
   
  Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
  To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
  
  Subject: The weirdest coincidence
  

 
I just had five different PMP450 AP’s go
  down at the same time at five different towers.  In all cases
  the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx traffic.  Power
  cycle doesn’t bring any of them back up.  
 
WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?
 
  
  
  

  


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Re: [AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[dmmoffett]

Nevermind.  Some noob was shutting off Aps trying to disable users.

 

 

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 1:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: The weirdest coincidence

 

I just had five different PMP450 AP's go down at the same time at five
different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
traffic.  Power cycle doesn't bring any of them back up.  

 

WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?

 

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[AFMUG] The weirdest coincidence

[dmmoffett]

I just had five different PMP450 AP's go down at the same time at five
different towers.  In all cases the switch reports link, but I get zero Rx
traffic.  Power cycle doesn't bring any of them back up.  

 

WTF just happened?  Some kind of bug?

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Hiring undocumented legally

[Chuck McCown via AF]

H1B

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 9:12 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Hiring undocumented legally

Is there any mechanism to do this legitimately without putting them at risk? 
Particularly if theyve been in country but "off the books" for an extended 
period of time? 

Like sponsoring for work Visa  or green card, something to that effect?

Im not asking about low paid illegal labor, talking about fair wage, hungry to 
work just happens to be suffering from a citizenship deficiency 



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[AFMUG] Hiring undocumented legally

[Steve Jones]

Is there any mechanism to do this legitimately without putting them at
risk? Particularly if theyve been in country but "off the books" for an
extended period of time?

Like sponsoring for work Visa  or green card, something to that effect?

Im not asking about low paid illegal labor, talking about fair wage, hungry
to work just happens to be suffering from a citizenship deficiency
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Re: [AFMUG] Depreciation Recapture

[Mark Radabaugh]

That’s not exactly what that long IRS document says.   You CAN elect to create 
a de minimis safe harbor of $2500 if you want to for tax purposes, but don’t 
confuse your tax books with your management books.If you are only looking 
at the books and depreciation for tax purposes you are lying to yourself about 
the profitability of the business.  

Mark 

> On Feb 22, 2022, at 7:09 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
>  wrote:
> 
> Anything under $2500 is an expense, so sayeth the IRS (subject to one minor 
> hoop)...
> 
> https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations
>  
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF  > wrote:
> Do  you guys expense SMs as you go or call them assets and do a mass 
> depreciation each year?
>  
> I know we had to reverse a bunch of depreciation when we sold the wisp. 
> Depreciation Recapture.  Bunch of crap if you have never heard of it before 
> and were not expecting it. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Depreciation Recapture

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Anything under $2500 is an expense, so sayeth the IRS (subject to one minor
hoop)...

https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/tangible-property-final-regulations

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 2:36 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> Do  you guys expense SMs as you go or call them assets and do a mass
> depreciation each year?
>
> I know we had to reverse a bunch of depreciation when we sold the wisp.
> Depreciation Recapture.  Bunch of crap if you have never heard of it
> before and were not expecting it.
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