[AFMUG] Pre-terminated direct burial fiber cable

2022-04-22 Thread fiberrun 
Hi all!

Can anybody recommend a supplier of pre-terminated direct burial fiber cables? 
I need a few lengths with 12 fibers and SC connectors.


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[AFMUG] OT: Saturday April 23 is National Vagina Appreciation Day

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Prince 

News you can use.


https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/6-fascinating-facts-about-vaginas-that-every-woman-should-know-130031881.html

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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Nate, email m...@savvitechnologies.com - P/N for one in the pic would
be LW-PFA-SC/APC-SC/UPC-R4.8-50FT-B3-B - Change the connector types /
lengths to what you want and ask for a quote.  Cable is 4.8mm.

Josh - On buildings for the most part.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:02 PM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Where do you get the patch cables from?
>
> I've been having Bestronics make my cables with 'uniboot'  LC Connectors
> The outdoor jacket goes right into the LC plug.  Looks very similar to your
> SC connector.
>
> On 4/22/2022 1:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> The green ones are faster.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 4/22/2022 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> You can have blue and green SC :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>>
>> Green?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke < 
>> n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>>
>> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
>> spam folder.
>>
>> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
>> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
>> do them in 10 Gig.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>>
>>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers
>>> are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but
>>> I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Josh.

 What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.

 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
 wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
 a lot of sense to me.



 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
> a fight.
>
> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
> on the SFP+.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
>> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available 
>> from
>> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>
>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
>> have another unsubscribe event?
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Nate Burke 

Where do you get the patch cables from?

I've been having Bestronics make my cables with 'uniboot'  LC 
Connectors  The outdoor jacket goes right into the LC plug.  Looks very 
similar to your SC connector.


On 4/22/2022 1:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


The green ones are faster.


bp

On 4/22/2022 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

You can have blue and green SC :)

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF  
wrote:


I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
*From:* Chuck McCown via AF
*Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Cc:* Chuck McCown
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
Green?

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

 Why do you prefer SC over LC?

On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:

Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't
search the spam folder.
SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special
order.  Works so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms
at FS and see if they can do them in 10 Gig.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman
 wrote:

A)  Make sure you're subscribed
B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single
message AFMUG sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter
to force it to my inbox
The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC. 
LC jumpers are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading

one hassle for another, but I'm sure climbers appreciate
the extra office effort!
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson
 wrote:

Thanks Josh.
What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to
radios. With 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it
really simple.I've honestly wondered why anyone
using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
a lot of sense to me.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman
 wrote:

Gmail made some changes at the end of March and
AFMUG and Gmail are in a fight.
I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere
honestly so I can't help on the SFP+.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson
 wrote:

Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with
SFP+ ports and was surprised to find 10Gig BiDi
SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can
make them?
P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list
for awhile.   Did we have another unsubscribe
event?
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
Where are the Siklu radio heads?

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:57 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Funny thing is we don't even use these on towers.  LC is just better for
> low density applications
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:46 PM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Screw you tower climber, you'll learn to use LC and like it!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:41 PM Carl Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure what it has to do with green vs blue.  Plant is green
>>> because that's what everything is.  Optic end of the cable is blue because
>>> that's what all SFP optics I know of are.
>>>
>>> My guy got back to me and can make me cables with LC on one end so
>>> that's what I'm gonna do.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.

 *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
 *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
 *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
 *Cc:* Chuck McCown
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

 Green?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

  Why do you prefer SC over LC?

 On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:

 Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
 spam folder.

 SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.
 Works so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if
 they can do them in 10 Gig.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>
> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers
> are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but
> I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh.
>>
>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>
>> We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't 
>> make
>> a lot of sense to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are
>>> in a fight.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't
>>> help on the SFP+.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>


 Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
 surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available 
 from
 FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?

 P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
 have another unsubscribe event?


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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
*"The green ones are faster."*

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:55 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> The green ones are faster.
>
> I really missed this stupid list
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 4/22/2022 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> You can have blue and green SC :)
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>>
>> Green?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>>
>> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
>> spam folder.
>>
>> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
>> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
>> do them in 10 Gig.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>>
>>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers
>>> are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but
>>> I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Josh.

 What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.

 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
 wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
 a lot of sense to me.



 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
> a fight.
>
> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
> on the SFP+.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
>> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available 
>> from
>> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>
>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
>> have another unsubscribe event?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Funny thing is we don't even use these on towers.  LC is just better for
low density applications

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:46 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Screw you tower climber, you'll learn to use LC and like it!
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:41 PM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Not sure what it has to do with green vs blue.  Plant is green
>> because that's what everything is.  Optic end of the cable is blue because
>> that's what all SFP optics I know of are.
>>
>> My guy got back to me and can make me cables with LC on one end so that's
>> what I'm gonna do.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>>>
>>> Green?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>>>
>>> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
>>> spam folder.
>>>
>>> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.
>>> Works so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if
>>> they can do them in 10 Gig.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 A)  Make sure you're subscribed
 B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
 sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox

 The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers
 are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but
 I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

> Thanks Josh.
>
> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>
> We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't 
> make
> a lot of sense to me.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are
>> in a fight.
>>
>> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
>> on the SFP+.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
>>> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available 
>>> from
>>> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>>
>>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
>>> have another unsubscribe event?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
The green ones are faster.


bp

On 4/22/2022 11:30 AM, Josh Luthman
  wrote:


  
  You can have blue and green SC :)
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:30
  PM Chuck McCown via AF 
  wrote:


  

  
I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.  

  
 

  From: Chuck McCown via AF
  
  Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave
  Users Group 
  Cc: Chuck McCown 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with
SC connectors

  
   

Green?
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17
  AM, Nate Burke 
  wrote:
  

  
  
 Why do you prefer SC over LC?  
  
  On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
  
  
Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam. 
  Funny that a search doesn't search the spam
  folder.  
   
  SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common. 
Not even a special order.  Works so much
better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at
FS and see if they can do them in 10 Gig.  

 

  On Fri, Apr
22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:
  
  
A)  Make sure you're
  subscribed
  B)  Look for messages in spam -
pretty much every single message AFMUG
sends me is marked as spam so I have a
filter to force it to my inbox
   
  The optics are LC - bidi or not - so
we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
easy to find.  Using SC seems like
trading one hassle for another, but I'm
sure climbers appreciate the extra
office effort!

 

  On Fri,
Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson

wrote:
  
  
Thanks Josh.  
   
  What a PITA.   Any work around? 
I miss my AFMUG fix.  
   
  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for
years to run fiber to radios.  With
4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes
it really simple.    I've honestly
wondered why anyone using BiDi would
want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't
make a lot of sense to me. 
   
   

 

  On
Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh
Luthman 
wrote:
  
  
Gmail made some
  changes at the end of March and
  AFMUG and Gmail are in a fight.
   
  I'm surprised they make SFP
with SC anywhere honestly so I
can't help on the SFP+.

Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
Screw you tower climber, you'll learn to use LC and like it!

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:41 PM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Not sure what it has to do with green vs blue.  Plant is green
> because that's what everything is.  Optic end of the cable is blue because
> that's what all SFP optics I know of are.
>
> My guy got back to me and can make me cables with LC on one end so that's
> what I'm gonna do.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>>
>> Green?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>>
>>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>>
>> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
>> spam folder.
>>
>> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
>> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
>> do them in 10 Gig.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>>
>>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers
>>> are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but
>>> I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Josh.

 What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.

 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
 wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
 a lot of sense to me.



 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
> a fight.
>
> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
> on the SFP+.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
>> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available 
>> from
>> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>
>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
>> have another unsubscribe event?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Not sure what it has to do with green vs blue.  Plant is green
because that's what everything is.  Optic end of the cable is blue because
that's what all SFP optics I know of are.

My guy got back to me and can make me cables with LC on one end so that's
what I'm gonna do.


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>
> Green?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>
> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
> spam folder.
>
> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
> do them in 10 Gig.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>
>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
>> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
>> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh.
>>>
>>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>>
>>> We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
>>> a lot of sense to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
 a fight.

 I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
 on the SFP+.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

>
>
> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>
> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
> have another unsubscribe event?
>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
You can have blue and green SC :)

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 2:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors
>
> Green?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>
> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
> spam folder.
>
> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
> do them in 10 Gig.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>
>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
>> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
>> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh.
>>>
>>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>>
>>> We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
>>> a lot of sense to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
 a fight.

 I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
 on the SFP+.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

>
>
> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>
> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
> have another unsubscribe event?
>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
I guess some folks REALLY hate blue.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2022 11:08 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

Green?


Sent from my iPhone


  On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:


   Why do you prefer SC over LC?  


  On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:

Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the 
spam folder.   

SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works 
so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can do 
them in 10 Gig.  

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  A)  Make sure you're subscribed 
  B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG 
sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox

  The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are 
easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm sure 
climbers appreciate the extra office effort!

  On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson 
 wrote:

Thanks Josh.   

What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.  

We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With 
4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly wondered 
why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make a lot of 
sense to me. 



On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
 wrote:

  Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are 
in a fight. 

  I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help 
on the SFP+.

  On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
 wrote:



Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was 
surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.  
Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them? 

P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we 
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Colin Stanners 
If like us, because 1) LC is a bit too small for individual manipulation by
our grubby hands in denser panels  and 2) We could build an entire network
out of nothing but singlemode SC/UPC connections in gigabit times (just
putting small SC/UPC adapters to APC on the GPON CPEs), without needing a
wide variety of adapters etc for the different use cases. Unfortunately in
10Gbit+ with the lack of SC on SFPs, the latter advantage is disappearing.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:19 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> Why do you prefer SC over LC?
>
> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
> spam folder.
>
> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
> do them in 10 Gig.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>
>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
>> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
>> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh.
>>>
>>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>>
>>>  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
>>> a lot of sense to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
 a fight.

 I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
 on the SFP+.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

>
>
> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>
> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
> have another unsubscribe event?
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>>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Chuck McCown via AF 
Green?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:
> 
>  Why do you prefer SC over LC?  
> 
> On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the spam 
>> folder.  
>> 
>> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works so 
>> much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can do 
>> them in 10 Gig.  
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman  
>> wrote:
>>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG 
>>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>> 
>>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are 
>>> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm 
>>> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson  
>>> wrote:
 Thanks Josh.  
 
 What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.  
 
  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With 
 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly 
 wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't 
 make a lot of sense to me. 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman  
 wrote:
> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a 
> fight.
> 
> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help on 
> the SFP+.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was surprised 
>> to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.  
>> Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>> 
>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have 
>> another unsubscribe event?  
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Nate Burke 

Why do you prefer SC over LC?

On 4/22/2022 10:39 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search 
the spam folder.


SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  
Works so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see 
if they can do them in 10 Gig.


On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:


A)  Make sure you're subscribed
B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message
AFMUG sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to
my inbox

The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC
jumpers are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle
for another, but I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson
mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>>
wrote:

Thanks Josh.

What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.

 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to
radios.  With 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really
simple.I've honestly wondered why anyone using BiDi would
want to use LC for BiDi. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.



On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman
mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and
Gmail are in a fight.

I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I
can't help on the SFP+.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson
mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:



Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports
and was surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC
connectors aren't available from FS. Anyone know of a
source or someone who can make them?

P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for
awhile.   Did we have another unsubscribe event?


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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  
All the messages will be in the "All Mail" folder except for
  spam. It even includes sent mail.


bp

On 4/22/2022 8:40 AM, Josh Luthman
  wrote:


  
  Need to specify 'in:spam'.  Archive/inbox/spam are
three distinct locations for messages.


If FS and Calix don't have it...I'm not sure I want a third
  supplier for optics...
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:39
  AM Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a
search doesn't search the spam folder.  


SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a
  special order.  Works so much better with Siklu gear. 
  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can do them in 10
  Gig.  
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at
  10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
  wrote:


  A)  Make sure you're subscribed
B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every
  single message AFMUG sends me is marked as spam so I
  have a filter to force it to my inbox


The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck
  with LC.  LC jumpers are easy to find.  Using SC seems
  like trading one hassle for another, but I'm sure
  climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022
  at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  Thanks Josh.  


What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my
  AFMUG fix.  


 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run
  fiber to radios.  With 4.8MM rugged fiber cables
  it makes it really simple.    I've honestly
  wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use
  LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 




  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22,
  2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
  wrote:


  Gmail made some changes at the end
of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a fight.


I'm surprised they make SFP with SC
  anywhere honestly so I can't help on the SFP+.
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr
  22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  


Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with
SFP+ ports and was surprised to find 10Gig
BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't
available from FS.  Anyone know of a source
or someone who can make them?


P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on
  this list for awhile.   Did we have
  another unsubscribe event?  




  
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Bill Prince 

  
  


1. This address had been subscribed the whole time
2. Nothing came into spam or anywhere else unless it was a DM.
  Nothing from the list ever showed up.


bp

On 4/22/2022 8:33 AM, Josh Luthman
  wrote:


  
  A)  Make sure you're subscribed
B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single
  message AFMUG sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to
  force it to my inbox


The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC. 
  LC jumpers are easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one
  hassle for another, but I'm sure climbers appreciate the extra
  office effort!
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29
  AM Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  Thanks Josh.  


What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.  


 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber
  to radios.  With 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it
  really simple.    I've honestly wondered why anyone using
  BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make a lot of
  sense to me. 




  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at
  9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
  wrote:


  Gmail made some changes at the end of March
and AFMUG and Gmail are in a fight.


I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere
  honestly so I can't help on the SFP+.
  
  
  
On Fri, Apr 22, 2022
  at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
  wrote:


  


Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+
ports and was surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with
SC connectors aren't available from FS.  Anyone know
of a source or someone who can make them?


P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list
  for awhile.   Did we have another unsubscribe
  event?  




  
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
Need to specify 'in:spam'.  Archive/inbox/spam are three distinct locations
for messages.

If FS and Calix don't have it...I'm not sure I want a third supplier for
optics...

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:39 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
> spam folder.
>
> SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
> so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
> do them in 10 Gig.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
>> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
>> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>>
>> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
>> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
>> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson <
>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Josh.
>>>
>>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>>
>>>  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
>>> a lot of sense to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in
 a fight.

 I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help
 on the SFP+.

 On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
 cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:

>
>
> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
> surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
> FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>
> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we
> have another unsubscribe event?
>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>>
>>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>>
>>> (410) 637-3707
>>>
>>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Thanks.  Found a bunch in spam.  Funny that a search doesn't search the
spam folder.

SC 1 gig BiDi optics are pretty common.  Not even a special order.  Works
so much better with Siklu gear.  I'll twist arms at FS and see if they can
do them in 10 Gig.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 10:33 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> A)  Make sure you're subscribed
> B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
> sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox
>
> The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
> easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
> sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Josh.
>>
>> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>>
>>  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
>> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
>> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
>> a lot of sense to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a
>>> fight.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help on
>>> the SFP+.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson <
>>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>


 Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was
 surprised to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from
 FS.  Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?

 P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have
 another unsubscribe event?


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>>
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>>
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>>
>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553
>>
>> Baltimore, MD 21202
>>
>> (410) 637-3707
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
A)  Make sure you're subscribed
B)  Look for messages in spam - pretty much every single message AFMUG
sends me is marked as spam so I have a filter to force it to my inbox

The optics are LC - bidi or not - so we're stuck with LC.  LC jumpers are
easy to find.  Using SC seems like trading one hassle for another, but I'm
sure climbers appreciate the extra office effort!

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:29 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

> Thanks Josh.
>
> What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.
>
>  We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
> 4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
> wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
> a lot of sense to me.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a
>> fight.
>>
>> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help on
>> the SFP+.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was surprised
>>> to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.
>>> Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>>
>>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have
>>> another unsubscribe event?
>>>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [AFMUG] List status

2022-04-22 Thread Mike Hammett 
GMail will do that... 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

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From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 8:47:30 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] List status 



I have a gap in list messages between 3/31 and 4/20. I thought the list had 
finally died it’s final death. 


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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Thanks Josh.

What a PITA.   Any work around?  I miss my AFMUG fix.

 We've been using SC BiDi SFPS for years to run fiber to radios.  With
4.8MM rugged fiber cables it makes it really simple.I've honestly
wondered why anyone using BiDi would want to use LC for BiDi.  Doesn't make
a lot of sense to me.



On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:18 AM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a
> fight.
>
> I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help on
> the SFP+.
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was surprised
>> to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.
>> Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>>
>> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have
>> another unsubscribe event?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Josh Luthman 
Gmail made some changes at the end of March and AFMUG and Gmail are in a
fight.

I'm surprised they make SFP with SC anywhere honestly so I can't help on
the SFP+.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 9:58 AM Carl Peterson 
wrote:

>
>
> Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was surprised
> to find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.
> Anyone know of a source or someone who can make them?
>
> P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have
> another unsubscribe event?
>
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[AFMUG] 10Gig BiDi with SC connectors

2022-04-22 Thread Carl Peterson 
Moving to some of the newer Siklu gear with SFP+ ports and was surprised to
find 10Gig BiDi SFPs with SC connectors aren't available from FS.  Anyone
know of a source or someone who can make them?

P.S.  I haven't seen any traffic on this list for awhile.   Did we have
another unsubscribe event?
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