Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Colin Stanners]

You can't command the UPSes to reboot the sites? Which UPS models are they?
Sorry to hear that.


On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 12:07 a.m. Christopher Tyler 
wrote:

> Well that was fun. 8 hours of power cycling AP's. Just rebooting the AP's
> didn't fix it. Thankfully not every 450 radio seems to have freaked out.
> Weird that it really only affected some of our 900 Mhz 450i radios.
>
> But to top it all off we still have some sites that are on stand-alone
> syncpipes with no way to reboot them. So we'll have to roll tucks to about
> 20 sites overnight. Yay.
>
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
>
> Plus, if a rackinjector was previously upgraded to a reasonably-recent
> version (and the default settings weren't changed), it shouldn't have seen
> the issue at all, as the firmware in the rackinjector defaults to disabling
> GLONASS.
>
> (This is my plea for everyone to upgrade to the latest version as it isn't
> just this issue that version resolves).
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 4:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn
> it back on. Very easy and can be done remotely.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Cassidy B. Larson"
> Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
>
> It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s
> powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s
> providing GPS for your radios.
>
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/
> 
>
> For us, we’re just visiting a few of the sites that have
> CMM5/rackinjectors impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the
> GPS to avoid rebooting.. and mopping up with reboots one by one for those
> that have their own GPS late tonight.
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler 
> wrote:
>
> A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync,
> reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other
> 450 AP's seem to be working fine.
>
> 
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Christopher Tyler]

Well that was fun. 8 hours of power cycling AP's. Just rebooting the AP's 
didn't fix it. Thankfully not every 450 radio seems to have freaked out. Weird 
that it really only affected some of our 900 Mhz 450i radios.

But to top it all off we still have some sites that are on stand-alone 
syncpipes with no way to reboot them. So we'll have to roll tucks to about 20 
sites overnight. Yay.



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From: AF  on behalf of Forrest Christian (List 
Account) 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 6:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

Plus, if a rackinjector was previously upgraded to a reasonably-recent version 
(and the default settings weren't changed), it shouldn't have seen the issue at 
all, as the firmware in the rackinjector defaults to disabling GLONASS.

(This is my plea for everyone to upgrade to the latest version as it isn't just 
this issue that version resolves).


On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 4:54 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn it 
back on. Very easy and can be done remotely.

 Original Message 
From: "Cassidy B. Larson"
Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s 
powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s 
providing GPS for your radios.

https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/

For us, we’re just visiting a few of the sites that have CMM5/rackinjectors 
impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the GPS to avoid rebooting.. 
and mopping up with reboots one by one for those that have their own GPS late 
tonight.


On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler 
mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:

A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, 
then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem 
to be working fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Plus, if a rackinjector was previously upgraded to a reasonably-recent
version (and the default settings weren't changed), it shouldn't have seen
the issue at all, as the firmware in the rackinjector defaults to disabling
GLONASS.

(This is my plea for everyone to upgrade to the latest version as it isn't
just this issue that version resolves).


On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 4:54 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn
> it back on. Very easy and can be done remotely.
>
>  Original Message 
> From: "Cassidy B. Larson"
> Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PM
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue
>
> It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s
> powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s
> providing GPS for your radios.
>
> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/
>
> For us, we’re just visiting a few of the sites that have
> CMM5/rackinjectors impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the
> GPS to avoid rebooting.. and mopping up with reboots one by one for those
> that have their own GPS late tonight.
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler 
> wrote:
>
> A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync,
> reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other
> 450 AP's seem to be working fine.
>
> 
> Christopher Tyler
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Christopher Tyler]

Thanks for the info. We literally just figured out that rebooting the UGPS 
works. Now to get to all of them on our network. 😭



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From: AF  on behalf of castarritt 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 5:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

GLONASS date rollover issue.  Reboot.

https://packetflux.info/glonassrollover/

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 5:43 PM Christopher Tyler 
mailto:ch...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, 
then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem 
to be working fine.


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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Ken Hohhof]

Rackinjectors there is a button in the GUI to disable GPS power then turn it 
back on. Very easy and can be done remotely.  Original Message From: 
"Cassidy B. Larson" Sent: 12/31/2023 5:47:42 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users 
Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issueIt?s the GPS you?re using. 
You?ll want to power cycle the radio, if it?s powering the GPS unit itself, or 
power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it?s providing GPS for your 
radios.?https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/For
 us, we?re just visiting a few of the sites that have CMM5/rackinjectors 
impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the GPS to avoid rebooting.. 
and mopping up with reboots one by one for those that have their own GPS late 
tonight.?On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler 
 wrote:A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i 
radios started losing sync, reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing 
similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem to be working fine.?Christopher 
TylerSenior Network EngineerTotal Highspeed Internet Solutions+1 417-851-1107 
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Ken Hohhof]

GLONASS day counter rollover midnight Moscow time Dec. 31 and leap year?Are 
they getting AUX port sync? If so, try turning off power to the AUX port from 
the AP GUI and turning it back on. Original Message From: "Christopher 
Tyler" Sent: 12/31/2023 5:43:10 PMTo: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue


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A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, 
then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem 
to be working fine.?









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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Cassidy B. Larson]

It’s the GPS you’re using. You’ll want to power cycle the radio, if it’s 
powering the GPS unit itself, or power cycle the CMM5/rackinjector if it’s 
providing GPS for your radios. 

https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/field-service-bulletins/fsb9079/

For us, we’re just visiting a few of the sites that have CMM5/rackinjectors 
impacted GPS units for now and unplugging/plugging the GPS to avoid rebooting.. 
and mopping up with reboots one by one for those that have their own GPS late 
tonight. 


> On Dec 31, 2023, at 16:42, Christopher Tyler  wrote:
> 
> A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, 
> reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 
> 450 AP's seem to be working fine. 
> 
> 
> Christopher Tyler
> Senior Network Engineer
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> ch...@totalhighspeed.net 
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Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[castarritt]

GLONASS date rollover issue.  Reboot.

https://packetflux.info/glonassrollover/

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 5:43 PM Christopher Tyler 
wrote:

> A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync,
> reaquire, then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other
> 450 AP's seem to be working fine.
>
> 
> Christopher Tyler
> Senior Network Engineer
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[AFMUG] PMP450i GPS/Sync issue

[Christopher Tyler]

A couple of hours ago all of our PMP450i radios started losing sync, reaquire, 
then lose again. Is anyone else seeing similar issues? All other 450 AP's seem 
to be working fine.


Christopher Tyler
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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Some customers wanted the added redundancy that comes with more
satellites.  The irony of the thing which we changed to improve reliability
biting one in the rear with this issue is not lost on me.

At this point, everything is going out with GPS+GALILEO since there is some
question about if it is even legal to operate a GLONASS receiver in the USA.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 2:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> What is the benefit to using glonass?
> For timing is not GPS good enough?
>
>
> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2023 10:10 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof
>
> Well hopefully most everything can be remotely handled.
>
> I'm really really hoping that the fix my current GPS vendor provided
> actually survives the rollover.  Otherwise this is going to be a much
> bigger mess.
>
> I really wish multi GNSS simulators weren't so expensive.   Like costs
> more than we make on syncboxes for a couple/few years expensive.   They're
> also not available to lease for any reasonable price.  As a result I get to
> trust that my vendor did exactly the right thing here.
>
> I'm hanging around the phone for the inevitable panicked call from the
> customer who ignored (or didn't get) all of the messages we sent out.
>
> On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 9:07 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm today, the
>> forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 12:08 AM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
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>> Subject: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof
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>> Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Ken Hohhof]

Forrest wrote an extensive description, but I think the answer is we probably 
don’t care about GLONASS but certain chips that can receive from both GPS and 
GLONASS get screwed up when the GLONASS day number rolls over until they’re 
power cycled.  So even if you’re only using GPS, the receiver can’t get a 3D 
lock and supply a 1pps pulse.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:30 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

 

I think using all the different GPS constellations is mainly for redundancy. 
For when Leave the World Behind becomes reality.

 

bp


On 12/31/2023 1:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

What is the benefit to using glonass?

For timing is not GPS good enough?

 

 

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 10:10 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

 

Well hopefully most everything can be remotely handled.  

 

I'm really really hoping that the fix my current GPS vendor provided actually 
survives the rollover.  Otherwise this is going to be a much bigger mess. 

 

I really wish multi GNSS simulators weren't so expensive.   Like costs more 
than we make on syncboxes for a couple/few years expensive.   They're also not 
available to lease for any reasonable price.  As a result I get to trust that 
my vendor did exactly the right thing here. 

 

I'm hanging around the phone for the inevitable panicked call from the customer 
who ignored (or didn't get) all of the messages we sent out.  

 

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 9:07 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > wrote:

Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm today, the
forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!

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To: af@af.afmug.com  
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Subject: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

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I think using all the different GPS constellations is mainly for 
redundancy. For when /*Leave the World Behind*/ becomes reality.



bp


On 12/31/2023 1:24 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

What is the benefit to using glonass?
For timing is not GPS good enough?
*From:* Forrest Christian (List Account)
*Sent:* Sunday, December 31, 2023 10:10 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof
Well hopefully most everything can be remotely handled.
I'm really really hoping that the fix my current GPS vendor provided 
actually survives the rollover. Otherwise this is going to be a much 
bigger mess.
I really wish multi GNSS simulators weren't so expensive.   Like costs 
more than we make on syncboxes for a couple/few years expensive.   
They're also not available to lease for any reasonable price.  As a 
result I get to trust that my vendor did exactly the right thing here.
I'm hanging around the phone for the inevitable panicked call from the 
customer who ignored (or didn't get) all of the messages we sent out.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 9:07 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm
today, the
forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!

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Subject: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Chuck McCown via AF]

What is the benefit to using glonass?
For timing is not GPS good enough?


From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 10:10 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

Well hopefully most everything can be remotely handled.  

I'm really really hoping that the fix my current GPS vendor provided actually 
survives the rollover.  Otherwise this is going to be a much bigger mess. 

I really wish multi GNSS simulators weren't so expensive.   Like costs more 
than we make on syncboxes for a couple/few years expensive.   They're also not 
available to lease for any reasonable price.  As a result I get to trust that 
my vendor did exactly the right thing here. 

I'm hanging around the phone for the inevitable panicked call from the customer 
who ignored (or didn't get) all of the messages we sent out.  

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 9:07 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm today, the
  forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!

  -Original Message-
  From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
  Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 12:08 AM
  To: af@af.afmug.com
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  Subject: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

  Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Well hopefully most everything can be remotely handled.

I'm really really hoping that the fix my current GPS vendor provided
actually survives the rollover.  Otherwise this is going to be a much
bigger mess.

I really wish multi GNSS simulators weren't so expensive.   Like costs more
than we make on syncboxes for a couple/few years expensive.   They're also
not available to lease for any reasonable price.  As a result I get to
trust that my vendor did exactly the right thing here.

I'm hanging around the phone for the inevitable panicked call from the
customer who ignored (or didn't get) all of the messages we sent out.

On Sun, Dec 31, 2023, 9:07 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm today, the
> forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!
>
> -Original Message-
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> Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Jaime is still gone.Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 31, 2023, at 8:25 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:






I always miss his wisdom.  
I know an election years is coming, but Steve & Jamie please behave yourselves this time.





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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 
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Subject: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof
 


Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Ken Hohhof]

Hi all.  Happy New Year.  I have to do GLONASS fixups at 3pm today, the
forecast is freezing rain.  Yay!

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Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Adam Moffett]

I always miss his wisdom.
I know an election years is coming, but Steve & Jamie please behave yourselves 
this time.

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From: AF  on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF 

Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 1:08:02 AM
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Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!

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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Bill Prince]

Hola Ken!

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part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


On Sun, Dec 31, 2023 at 3:59 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
wrote:

> Hey Ken!
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> Regards,
>
> Jeff
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> Jeff Broadwick
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> > On Dec 31, 2023, at 1:08 AM, Chuck McCown via AF 
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> > Everbuddy say welcome back Ken!!!
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Re: [AFMUG] Ken Hohof

[Jeff Broadwick - Lists]

Hey Ken!

Regards,

Jeff 

Jeff Broadwick
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