Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Robert Andrews]

8:03  !!

On 5/1/24 10:20, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Just barely.  I am looking more like Wilford Brimley every day.  Right 
when they pretty much gave up on getting it started.




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-Original Message- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 11:06 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Didn't see you in the vid, was hoping you would be...

On 5/1/24 09:36, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
That's my son Ben in there talking about what we do here.  He pretty 
much runs the show.  I am just the old dog wandering from office to 
office looking for snacks.


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Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:55 AM
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Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

So it dropped... will have to take a look.  Thanks.



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-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" (
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC
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Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Chuck McCown via AF]

Just barely.  I am looking more like Wilford Brimley every day.  Right when 
they pretty much gave up on getting it started.




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-Original Message- 
From: Robert Andrews

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 11:06 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Didn't see you in the vid, was hoping you would be...

On 5/1/24 09:36, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
That's my son Ben in there talking about what we do here.  He pretty much 
runs the show.  I am just the old dog wandering from office to office 
looking for snacks.


-Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

So it dropped... will have to take a look.  Thanks.



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-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" (
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC
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Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Robert Andrews]

Didn't see you in the vid, was hoping you would be...

On 5/1/24 09:36, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
That's my son Ben in there talking about what we do here.  He pretty 
much runs the show.  I am just the old dog wandering from office to 
office looking for snacks.


-Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

So it dropped... will have to take a look.  Thanks.



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-Original Message- From: Robert
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" (
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC
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Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Chuck McCown via AF]

That's my son Ben in there talking about what we do here.  He pretty much 
runs the show.  I am just the old dog wandering from office to office 
looking for snacks.


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From: Chuck McCown via AF

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:55 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

So it dropped... will have to take a look.  Thanks.



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From: Robert

Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" (
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC
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Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Chuck McCown via AF]

So it dropped... will have to take a look.  Thanks.  




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From: Robert 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:36 AM 
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Fab Rats 

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug 
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" ( 
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Robert]

Starts at 5:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrt78oczcwo


On 5/1/24 8:36 AM, Robert wrote:
Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport 
tug and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching 
equipment" ( Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks 
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[AFMUG] Fab Rats....

[Robert]

Watching my youtubes this am and Fab Rats goes to pick up an airport tug 
and the fellow in the video says "We build microtrenching equipment" ( 
Fab Rats is in Utah ) and I glimpse a bit of what looks like the MTC 
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Re: [AFMUG] Won One

[Chuck McCown via AF]

I imagine he got into primary.  Electrical drops are no more dangerous than an 
extension cord.  I was string a long aerial telephone drop about 45 years ago 
that had to cross under the primary.  When tensioning it it flipped and almost 
touched.  Not sure what it would have done to me but the drop line went clear 
to the ground where the reel was in the back of my truck.  I imagine I would 
have been some form of crispy.  
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 8:02 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

“crap job on the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) 
but I was tired of arguing”

 

Hopefully 40” or greater.  A cable guy in the NY Hudson Valley area was 
literally incinerated by a power line a couple weeks ago.  The 40” clearance 
rule is there for a serious frickin reason.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 5:45 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

Business installs can get crazy with the number of subs who just do one thing.

 

And if you ordered a static IP or block or want help setting up the “gateway”, 
the guy who basically just plugs in the modem doesn’t know anything about that, 
he tells you to call customer support.

 

I got Comcast cable Internet at my house replacing RCN (they really suck bigly) 
and they just sent one guy but he just had a regular passenger car with a 
ladder on top.  I kept trying to tell him no that wasn’t the Comcast drop cable 
it was the RCN cable and I hadn’t cancelled them yet so no he couldn’t just 
steal it.  The 20 year old Comcast cable was all rotten and he was going to 
have to run a new one.  He still cut the RCN cable and I made him splice it 
back.  I knew that Comcast was the old Jones Intercable and they were below the 
power wires on the poles and RCN was the old Americast which was below the 
Comcast cables,  but he didn’t seem to know that.  Or else he was just being 
lazy and trying to avoid running a new drop.  He still IMHO did a crap job on 
the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) but I was 
tired of arguing.  The Comcast 2 Gbps service however has been flawless.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:10 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

It’s pretty common to have drop cable teams separate from the house install 
teams.  I think the reasoning is you can subcontract drop cables, but you want 
to keep the customer facing piece in house.  The other reason is a customer 
doesn’t need to be home for the drop cable to get done, so you don’t have to 
schedule that with them.

  

I can see having a sub who does the aerial part of a drop and another sub who 
does an underground portion, and then your in-house installer comes in to hang 
the NID on the house and run a cable in to the CPE.  That’s about the maximum 
number of ways I can see it logically divided up.  How many steps could Comcast 
have? 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 2:09 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

>From my limited experience with them (mostly through friends who have no other 
>choice), their installations are "divide an conquer. They send out a different 
>crew to do every micro-step of an installation.

 

bpOn 4/29/2024 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Had a 150 Mbps customer leave for Comcast/Xfinity 1.3 G $25/ month loss 
leader service.  

   

  He lasted a couple months.  

   

  He said their customer service is non existent.  

   

   

   




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Re: [AFMUG] Won One

[Ken Hohhof]

More like 3 inches.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of dmmoff...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2024 9:03 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

“crap job on the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) 
but I was tired of arguing”

 

Hopefully 40” or greater.  A cable guy in the NY Hudson Valley area was 
literally incinerated by a power line a couple weeks ago.  The 40” clearance 
rule is there for a serious frickin reason.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 5:45 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

Business installs can get crazy with the number of subs who just do one thing.

 

And if you ordered a static IP or block or want help setting up the “gateway”, 
the guy who basically just plugs in the modem doesn’t know anything about that, 
he tells you to call customer support.

 

I got Comcast cable Internet at my house replacing RCN (they really suck bigly) 
and they just sent one guy but he just had a regular passenger car with a 
ladder on top.  I kept trying to tell him no that wasn’t the Comcast drop cable 
it was the RCN cable and I hadn’t cancelled them yet so no he couldn’t just 
steal it.  The 20 year old Comcast cable was all rotten and he was going to 
have to run a new one.  He still cut the RCN cable and I made him splice it 
back.  I knew that Comcast was the old Jones Intercable and they were below the 
power wires on the poles and RCN was the old Americast which was below the 
Comcast cables,  but he didn’t seem to know that.  Or else he was just being 
lazy and trying to avoid running a new drop.  He still IMHO did a crap job on 
the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) but I was 
tired of arguing.  The Comcast 2 Gbps service however has been flawless.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:10 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

It’s pretty common to have drop cable teams separate from the house install 
teams.  I think the reasoning is you can subcontract drop cables, but you want 
to keep the customer facing piece in house.  The other reason is a customer 
doesn’t need to be home for the drop cable to get done, so you don’t have to 
schedule that with them.

  

I can see having a sub who does the aerial part of a drop and another sub who 
does an underground portion, and then your in-house installer comes in to hang 
the NID on the house and run a cable in to the CPE.  That’s about the maximum 
number of ways I can see it logically divided up.  How many steps could Comcast 
have? 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 2:09 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

>From my limited experience with them (mostly through friends who have no other 
>choice), their installations are "divide an conquer. They send out a different 
>crew to do every micro-step of an installation.

 

bp


On 4/29/2024 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Had a 150 Mbps customer leave for Comcast/Xfinity 1.3 G $25/ month loss leader 
service.  

 

He lasted a couple months.  

 

He said their customer service is non existent.  

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Pot

[dmmoffett]

I think the ADA does want you to accommodate rehab appointments in someone’s 
work schedule.  

…..which I would do anyway.  If they’re working on getting straight I don’t 
want to stand in their way.  I don’t know if anyone goes to rehab for pot 
though.  Probably not.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2024 5:11 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot

 

Utah code 26-61a-111(4)..

 

"Nothing in this section requires a private employer to accommodate the use of 
medical cannabis or affects the ability of a private employer to have policies 
restricting the use of medical cannabis by applicants or employees."

 

There are also federal court cases where the court has determined that 
marijuana use is not subject to the ADA.

 

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 10:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow them 
to partake at work.

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Re: [AFMUG] Won One

[dmmoffett]

“crap job on the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) 
but I was tired of arguing”

 

Hopefully 40” or greater.  A cable guy in the NY Hudson Valley area was 
literally incinerated by a power line a couple weeks ago.  The 40” clearance 
rule is there for a serious frickin reason.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 5:45 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

Business installs can get crazy with the number of subs who just do one thing.

 

And if you ordered a static IP or block or want help setting up the “gateway”, 
the guy who basically just plugs in the modem doesn’t know anything about that, 
he tells you to call customer support.

 

I got Comcast cable Internet at my house replacing RCN (they really suck bigly) 
and they just sent one guy but he just had a regular passenger car with a 
ladder on top.  I kept trying to tell him no that wasn’t the Comcast drop cable 
it was the RCN cable and I hadn’t cancelled them yet so no he couldn’t just 
steal it.  The 20 year old Comcast cable was all rotten and he was going to 
have to run a new one.  He still cut the RCN cable and I made him splice it 
back.  I knew that Comcast was the old Jones Intercable and they were below the 
power wires on the poles and RCN was the old Americast which was below the 
Comcast cables,  but he didn’t seem to know that.  Or else he was just being 
lazy and trying to avoid running a new drop.  He still IMHO did a crap job on 
the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) but I was 
tired of arguing.  The Comcast 2 Gbps service however has been flawless.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 4:10 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

It’s pretty common to have drop cable teams separate from the house install 
teams.  I think the reasoning is you can subcontract drop cables, but you want 
to keep the customer facing piece in house.  The other reason is a customer 
doesn’t need to be home for the drop cable to get done, so you don’t have to 
schedule that with them.

  

I can see having a sub who does the aerial part of a drop and another sub who 
does an underground portion, and then your in-house installer comes in to hang 
the NID on the house and run a cable in to the CPE.  That’s about the maximum 
number of ways I can see it logically divided up.  How many steps could Comcast 
have? 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 2:09 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Won One

 

>From my limited experience with them (mostly through friends who have no other 
>choice), their installations are "divide an conquer. They send out a different 
>crew to do every micro-step of an installation.

 

bp


On 4/29/2024 10:52 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

Had a 150 Mbps customer leave for Comcast/Xfinity 1.3 G $25/ month loss leader 
service.  

 

He lasted a couple months.  

 

He said their customer service is non existent.  

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

[dmmoffett]

Graboids haha

As stupid as that movie was, I enjoyed the hell out of it.  


-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 12:12 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

Always need some dynamite on hand in case of Graboids.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 10:47 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

"Controlled Explosion"   Hopefully _after_ having been removed from the 
house

On 4/29/24 7:13 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> FROM: News of the Weird
>
> Boom!
> In Holladay, Utah, authorities were summoned to a home on April 23 to 
> advise a homeowner on how to dispose of “a lot” of explosives, 
> including “ancient dynamite” that had been in the family for 
> “generations and generations.” Capt. Tony Barker of the Unified Fire 
> Authority said the collectors did not appear to have malicious intent.
> KUTV reported that multiple agencies descended on the home, where it 
> was determined that they would have to conduct a controlled explosion.
>
> Of course, that's just EAST Utah. Right Chuck?
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Re: [AFMUG] Pot

[Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]]

Just like you cant operate heavy equipment while impaired, you cant use pot.
If they can manage to "not be impaired", then the water gets murky.

Note: I am in TX where it is still illegal so my opinion is likely not valid.

Jim Bouse
Owner
Brazos WiFi
979-999-7000
j...@brazoswifi.com 

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2024 11:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: [AFMUG] Pot

If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow them 
to partake at work.

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Re: [AFMUG] Pot

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Utah code 26-61a-111(4)..

"Nothing in this section requires a private employer to accommodate the use
of medical cannabis or affects the ability of a private employer to have
policies restricting the use of medical cannabis by applicants or
employees."

There are also federal court cases where the court has determined that
marijuana use is not subject to the ADA.

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, 10:42 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:

> If an employee has a prescription for pot for anxiety do we have to allow
> them to partake at work.
>
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