Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[Chuck McCown]

Thanks, that was a great movie.  I gotta go join movie pass again.
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
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> 
> Chuck, I seem to remember you were a MoviePass subscriber and posted here 
> about their rise and fall.
>  
> Are you planning to watch the new HBO documentary?
>  
> https://www.theverge.com/24160812/moviepass-moviecrash-review
>  
> Seems like a classic story of small entrepreneurs start something, bigshot 
> executives take over and burn piles of investor cash with no viable long term 
> plan, and eventually they fly the plane into the ground.
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Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[Bill Prince]

You might say that golden parachutes work no better than lead ballons.


bp


On 5/31/2024 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

That'll buff out.

Or if you're a Monty Pyton fan, "It's just a flesh wound".

Or if you've watched Roadkill on Motor Trend TV, "Dzus it back on".

The pilots here can tell me if there's really an expression CFIT (Controlled
Flight Into Terrain).  But I think that's supposed to be unintentional,
whereas the startups that light piles of money on fire until it runs out
seem to be actively flying the plane into the dirt.  Maybe they have golden
parachutes.

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From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
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Bet that smarts.

bp


On 5/31/2024 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

fly the plane into the ground


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Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[chuck]

Yep, usually found on NTSB reports of airplane crashes.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 4:42 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

That'll buff out.

Or if you're a Monty Pyton fan, "It's just a flesh wound".

Or if you've watched Roadkill on Motor Trend TV, "Dzus it back on".

The pilots here can tell me if there's really an expression CFIT (Controlled
Flight Into Terrain).  But I think that's supposed to be unintentional,
whereas the startups that light piles of money on fire until it runs out
seem to be actively flying the plane into the dirt.  Maybe they have golden
parachutes.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 3:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

Bet that smarts.

bp


On 5/31/2024 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

fly the plane into the ground


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Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[Ken Hohhof]

That'll buff out.

Or if you're a Monty Pyton fan, "It's just a flesh wound".

Or if you've watched Roadkill on Motor Trend TV, "Dzus it back on".

The pilots here can tell me if there's really an expression CFIT (Controlled
Flight Into Terrain).  But I think that's supposed to be unintentional,
whereas the startups that light piles of money on fire until it runs out
seem to be actively flying the plane into the dirt.  Maybe they have golden
parachutes.

-Original Message-
From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 3:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

Bet that smarts.

bp


On 5/31/2024 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> fly the plane into the ground

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Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[Bill Prince]

Bet that smarts.

bp


On 5/31/2024 10:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

fly the plane into the ground


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Re: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[chuck]

I don’t think I have seen this.  I will.  Thanks.  I think I still own some 
stock somewhere.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 11:09 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

Chuck, I seem to remember you were a MoviePass subscriber and posted here about 
their rise and fall.

 

Are you planning to watch the new HBO documentary?

 

https://www.theverge.com/24160812/moviepass-moviecrash-review

 

Seems like a classic story of small entrepreneurs start something, bigshot 
executives take over and burn piles of investor cash with no viable long term 
plan, and eventually they fly the plane into the ground.




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[AFMUG] MoviePass documentary

[Ken Hohhof]

Chuck, I seem to remember you were a MoviePass subscriber and posted here
about their rise and fall.

 

Are you planning to watch the new HBO documentary?

 

https://www.theverge.com/24160812/moviepass-moviecrash-review

 

Seems like a classic story of small entrepreneurs start something, bigshot
executives take over and burn piles of investor cash with no viable long
term plan, and eventually they fly the plane into the ground.

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Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?

[Ken Hohhof]

So they put all the trees in a tree museum, and charged a dollar and a half to 
see ‘um.  What’s that now with inflation?

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?

 

 

Still here, lurking, soaking up AFMUG good vibes. :)

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bill Prince   

To: af@af.afmug.com   

Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 8:24 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?

 

I think it's because they paved paradise.

 

bp


On 5/22/2024 4:12 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Makes me think of the song Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

That's Pete Seeger though and we agreed to stay away from politics. Also kind 
of depressing. Gone to graveyards every one, when will they ever learn. I'm 
still here, but not getting any younger.

Maybe everyone is gearing up to install fiber for prevailing wage on BEAD 
projects. Will be like the gold rush.

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From: "Timothy Steele" 
Sent: 5/22/2024 3:54:55 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?

I got the msg  

 

Even wisp talk Facebook group seems to be slowing down

 

Would be interesting to know where everyone is going 

 

On Wed, May 22, 2024, 4:04?PM Jason McKemie mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> > wrote:

Just checking to see if the list is up, I haven't gotten anything in a while.

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Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Still here, lurking, soaking up AFMUG good vibes. :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Prince 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2024 8:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?


  I think it's because they paved paradise.




bp
On 5/22/2024 4:12 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Makes me think of the song Where Have All The Flowers Gone.

That's Pete Seeger though and we agreed to stay away from politics. Also 
kind of depressing. Gone to graveyards every one, when will they ever learn. 
I'm still here, but not getting any younger.

Maybe everyone is gearing up to install fiber for prevailing wage on BEAD 
projects. Will be like the gold rush.

 Original Message 
From: "Timothy Steele" 
Sent: 5/22/2024 3:54:55 AM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is this thing still on?


I got the msg  


Even wisp talk Facebook group seems to be slowing down


Would be interesting to know where everyone is going 


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  Just checking to see if the list is up, I haven't gotten anything in a 
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Re: [AFMUG] Sms alerting

[Josh Luthman]

vtext.com is low effort and when it works great, but if it doesn't work
you're SOL.  You get what you pay for.

For power outages & major events I use https://emailtovoice.net/ -
Powercode or whatever will send an email to 1231231...@service.org and
their system turns it into a voice call + text to speech.  I can grasp what
the situation is while driving/walking/digging/etc after hitting answer.

For texting use Twilio's API and your system.

With both services combined I think we're at something like $10/mo.

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 9:02 AM Zach Underwood  wrote:

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> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 8:46 AM Nate Burke  wrote:
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>> For years and years I've been using emails sent to phonenum...@vtext.com
>> to send network alerts to my cellphone.  Recently it seems that has started
>> randomly rate limiting me, thereby delaying alerts for several hours.  Smtp
>> delivery to vtext.com is just deferred with a random error message.  I
>> was wondering how others are getting notifications to their mobile device.
>> I could use 10DLC via my voip carrier, but that comes with its own whole
>> set of regulations and possible fines when used for A2P.  Verizon has an
>> 'enterprise messaging'
>> https://www.verizon.com/business/products/voice-collaboration/business-sms-solutions/
>> that says it is a direct replacement for vtext, but there is no pricing, so
>> I'm guessing it's expensive.
>>
>> I like the email gateway since I send each alert from a unique email
>> address for that device, so on my phone in my messaging app, they are all
>> nicely threaded by device.  Makes it really easy to track UPS statuses as a
>> storm rolls through and power is flashing.  Is there a similar application
>> that would provide real-time alerting without breaking the bank?
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Re: [AFMUG] Sms alerting

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We use librenms + pagerduty

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 8:46 AM Nate Burke  wrote:

> For years and years I've been using emails sent to phonenum...@vtext.com
> to send network alerts to my cellphone.  Recently it seems that has started
> randomly rate limiting me, thereby delaying alerts for several hours.  Smtp
> delivery to vtext.com is just deferred with a random error message.  I
> was wondering how others are getting notifications to their mobile device.
> I could use 10DLC via my voip carrier, but that comes with its own whole
> set of regulations and possible fines when used for A2P.  Verizon has an
> 'enterprise messaging'
> https://www.verizon.com/business/products/voice-collaboration/business-sms-solutions/
> that says it is a direct replacement for vtext, but there is no pricing, so
> I'm guessing it's expensive.
>
> I like the email gateway since I send each alert from a unique email
> address for that device, so on my phone in my messaging app, they are all
> nicely threaded by device.  Makes it really easy to track UPS statuses as a
> storm rolls through and power is flashing.  Is there a similar application
> that would provide real-time alerting without breaking the bank?
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[AFMUG] Sms alerting

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For years and years I've been using emails sent to phonenum...@vtext.com to 
send network alerts to my cellphone.  Recently it seems that has started 
randomly rate limiting me, thereby delaying alerts for several hours.  Smtp 
delivery to vtext.com is just deferred with a random error message.  I was 
wondering how others are getting notifications to their mobile device.  I could 
use 10DLC via my voip carrier, but that comes with its own whole set of 
regulations and possible fines when used for A2P.  Verizon has an 'enterprise 
messaging'  
https://www.verizon.com/business/products/voice-collaboration/business-sms-solutions/
  that says it is a direct replacement for vtext, but there is no pricing, so 
I'm guessing it's expensive.

I like the email gateway since I send each alert from a unique email address 
for that device, so on my phone in my messaging app, they are all nicely 
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Re: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link issues

[dmmoffett]

Maybe a use case could be something like industrial controls?  A damaged port 
could be very expensive, but nobody cares if it’s 10mbps or 1000.

 

-Adam

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 6:18 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
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I don’t recommend the GIGE-APC-HV for anything frankly.  It is a very fast 
acting circuit to provide maximum damage.  But it does not get along well with 
some radios.  Most of our customers use the CAT6 products.  

 

From: Ken Hohhof 

Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 4:11 PM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link issues

 

Have you tried replacing the surge suppressor card with a new one?  It might 
have taken a lightning hit and damaged some of the diodes.

 

You could switch to Chuck’s Cat6 version which is GDT (gas tube) only.  
Unlikely to get damaged, but might provide less protection, Chuck could 
probably speak to that.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of liddy303
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 1:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link issues

 

Chuck,

 

I recently put a four port din rail surge suppressor chassis in production with 
four MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV cards.

 

A couple of months into their use the ethernet links to the radios on the tower 
start flapping and renegotiating down from 1G to 100M and then eventually 10M, 
and then eventually failing.  When I bypass the card with a female-female RJ 
connector, they come right back up at 1Gig.

 

These radios are powered from a MikroTik POE switch at 48v.

 

Any suggestions?Am I using the wrong card for 48v poe?

 

Thanks.

 

-Brandon

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Re: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link issues

[Chuck McCown]

YesSent from my iPhoneOn May 30, 2024, at 10:55 PM, liddy303  wrote:So swap the cards out with 
800-CAT6-APC?On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 4:19 PM  wrote:







I don’t recommend the GIGE-APC-HV for anything frankly.  It is a very 
fast acting circuit to provide maximum damage.  But it does not get along 
well with some radios.  Most of our customers use the CAT6 products.  

 

From: 
Ken Hohhof 


Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 4:11 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link 
issues
 


Have you tried replacing the 
surge suppressor card with a new one?  It might have taken a lightning hit 
and damaged some of the diodes.
 
You could switch to Chuck’s 
Cat6 version which is GDT (gas tube) only.  Unlikely to get damaged, but 
might provide less protection, Chuck could probably speak to 
that.
 

From: AF 
 On Behalf Of liddy303Sent: 
Thursday, May 30, 2024 1:10 PMTo: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and 
ethernet link issues
 


Chuck,

 

I recently put a four port din rail surge suppressor chassis 
in production with four MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV cards.

 

A couple of months into their use the ethernet links to the 
radios on the tower start flapping and renegotiating down from 1G to 100M and 
then eventually 10M, and then eventually failing.  When I bypass the card 
with a female-female RJ connector, they come right back up at 
1Gig.

 

These radios are powered from a MikroTik POE switch at 
48v.

 

Any suggestions?    Am I using the wrong card 
for 48v poe?

 

Thanks.

 

-Brandon


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