Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

2019-06-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wanted to try the new KP ProLine 2 ft dishes on some problem links, so the 
other day I scrounged a connectorized 450 SM and we swapped out a 450b high 
gain.

 

The signal improved about as much as expected, the interesting thing is the SNR 
on both VPOL and HPOL improved dramatically along with the modulation level.

 

KP was nice enough to incorporate a post to fasten the SM to.  It will be nice 
if the connectorized 450b will mount on it.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 3:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Matt Mangriotis 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

 

It’s no secret Ken… just not coming soon enough! I would like to get it out 
sooner, and don’t want to hype it up, because it’s not going to be available 
until Q4. 

 

Rest assured, it is coming though.

 

Matt

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:28 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Seems to be a secret at Cambium.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Conn. 450b is coming so you can add a 2ft dish too 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > on behalf 
of Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> >
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Date: Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:12 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

450b SMs will also help uplink due to their higher xmt power.  At the expense 
of 1-2 dB of antenna gain compared to a reflector dish, which could hurt 
downlink.

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Yes, uplink mumimo FTW!  We see 4-8 db increase in rssi 

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

2019-06-21 Thread SmarterBroadband
I have new connectorized…..   You want?

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:24 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

 

We are running out of 450D’s and are still not happy with the 450b high gain.   
Not sure what we are going to do once the D’s run out.

 

Mark





On Jun 21, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

 

It’s no secret Ken… just not coming soon enough! I would like to get it out 
sooner, and don’t want to hype it up, because it’s not going to be available 
until Q4.

 

Rest assured, it is coming though.

 

Matt

 

From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:28 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Seems to be a secret at Cambium.

 

From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Conn. 450b is coming so you can add a 2ft dish too 

 

From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf 
of Ken Hohhof < <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> af...@kwisp.com>
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af@af.afmug.com>
Date: Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:12 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

450b SMs will also help uplink due to their higher xmt power.  At the expense 
of 1-2 dB of antenna gain compared to a reflector dish, which could hurt 
downlink.

 

From: AF < <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

 

Yes, uplink mumimo FTW!  We see 4-8 db increase in rssi

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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

2019-06-21 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We are running out of 450D’s and are still not happy with the 450b high gain.   
Not sure what we are going to do once the D’s run out.

Mark

> On Jun 21, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Matt Mangriotis via AF  wrote:
> 
> It’s no secret Ken… just not coming soon enough! I would like to get it out 
> sooner, and don’t want to hype it up, because it’s not going to be available 
> until Q4.
>  
> Rest assured, it is coming though.
>  
> Matt
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:28 AM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?
>  
> Seems to be a secret at Cambium.
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Gino A. Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:22 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?
>  
> Conn. 450b is coming so you can add a 2ft dish too 
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf 
> of Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Date: Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:12 AM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?
>  
> 450b SMs will also help uplink due to their higher xmt power.  At the expense 
> of 1-2 dB of antenna gain compared to a reflector dish, which could hurt 
> downlink.
>  
> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf 
> Of Gino A. Villarini
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:59 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group  <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?
>  
> Yes, uplink mumimo FTW!  We see 4-8 db increase in rssi
> 
> Gino Villarini 
> Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 
> m: 
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Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: When to consider 450M?

2019-06-21 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
It’s no secret Ken… just not coming soon enough! I would like to get it out 
sooner, and don’t want to hype it up, because it’s not going to be available 
until Q4.

Rest assured, it is coming though.

Matt

From: AF  On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:28 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

Seems to be a secret at Cambium.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:22 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

Conn. 450b is coming so you can add a 2ft dish too

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 11:12 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

450b SMs will also help uplink due to their higher xmt power.  At the expense 
of 1-2 dB of antenna gain compared to a reflector dish, which could hurt 
downlink.

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gino A. Villarini
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 8:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] When to consider 450M?

Yes, uplink mumimo FTW!  We see 4-8 db increase in rssi

Gino Villarini
Founder/President
@gvillarini
t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
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On 6/20/19, 9:35 AM, "AF on behalf of Matt" mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com%20on%20behalf%20of%20matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:

> The biggest win in the 450M department is the vast improvement in the SNR 
incoming to the AP.

We are looking at updating a 5ghz PMP450i 90 degree AP with a 450m
based not so much on customer count but rather rereg count and noise.
I assume the 450m will help in that department as well?

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