Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Mathew Howard]

Cheapest non-5ghz solution would be Mimosa B24's, but AF24's would work a
bit better at that distance. I would use regular AF24's instead of
AF24HD's, because at the price of the HD, you might as well just go with an
AF11 link.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:22 PM Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> Probably the best/cheapest/quickest solution depending upon rain..
>
> On 01/17/2020 12:13 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
> > Depending where you are a AF24HD could keep 300 meg at a few 9’s…   No
> > licenses to get.
> >
> > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2020 10:38 AM
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> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.86 link
> >
> > Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and */_not_/* in the 5ghz frequency?
> > Trying to get 300/300
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Robert Andrews]

Probably the best/cheapest/quickest solution depending upon rain..

On 01/17/2020 12:13 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:
Depending where you are a AF24HD could keep 300 meg at a few 9’s…   No 
licenses to get.


*From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell
*Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2020 10:38 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] 3.86 link

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and */_not_/* in the 5ghz frequency? 
Trying to get 300/300


Andy Trimmell

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[SmarterBroadband]

Depending where you are a AF24HD could keep 300 meg at a few 9's.   No
licenses to get. 

 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 10:38 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

 

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and not in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to get
300/300

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

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317-831-3000

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Mathew Howard]

Well, that depends on what you consider just fine... unless you're
somewhere were it never rains, any 80ghz link at that distance is going to
be dropping.

But yes, any 80ghz radio with decent tx power should work at that
distance... you'll get maybe 99.9% availability, but it will work. If you
only need 300Mbps, I imagine it would be cheaper to just license an AF11
link, or find some used older 11ghz radios anyway.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:32 PM Robert Andrews 
wrote:

> I believe that Siklu has some higher powered 80 Ghz lite licensed links
> that would do this distance just fine...  Another consideration?
>
> On 01/17/2020 11:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> > And it should go without saying that anything in licensed bands (11 GHz,
> > 18 GHz, etc.) needs frequency coordination and FCC licensing.
> >
> > I’d like to think nobody picks up used 11 GHz radios or some AF11’s at
> > an attractive price and thinks you can just fire them up like
> > unlicensed, but I suspect it happens.  I’ve heard things like “if it
> > required a license, the distributor would have asked for one before he
> > sold it to me”.  It’s not like asking to see your FOID card.
> >
> > *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> > *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2020 1:08 PM
> > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link
> >
> > Yeah... and actually, if you only need 300/300 you can probably pick up
> > some older 11ghz radios that'll do ~360Mbps pretty cheap.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:52 PM Steve Jones  > <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > at that short a distance you can do gig easy on 2' antennas in 11ghz
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mathew Howard  > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often,
> > depending on where you are), you can get that kind of capacity
> > out of 24ghz or 80ghz at that distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or
> > 18ghz licensed are the only real options.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell
> > mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and */_not_/* in the 5ghz
> > frequency? Trying to get 300/300
> >
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> >
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Robert Andrews]

I believe that Siklu has some higher powered 80 Ghz lite licensed links 
that would do this distance just fine...  Another consideration?


On 01/17/2020 11:13 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
And it should go without saying that anything in licensed bands (11 GHz, 
18 GHz, etc.) needs frequency coordination and FCC licensing.


I’d like to think nobody picks up used 11 GHz radios or some AF11’s at 
an attractive price and thinks you can just fire them up like 
unlicensed, but I suspect it happens.  I’ve heard things like “if it 
required a license, the distributor would have asked for one before he 
sold it to me”.  It’s not like asking to see your FOID card.


*From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2020 1:08 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

Yeah... and actually, if you only need 300/300 you can probably pick up 
some older 11ghz radios that'll do ~360Mbps pretty cheap.


On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:52 PM Steve Jones <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


at that short a distance you can do gig easy on 2' antennas in 11ghz

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often,
depending on where you are), you can get that kind of capacity
out of 24ghz or 80ghz at that distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or
18ghz licensed are the only real options.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell
mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com>>
wrote:

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and */_not_/* in the 5ghz
frequency? Trying to get 300/300

Andy Trimmell

/Business Manager/

*PDS Connect*

317-831-3000

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah... and actually, if you only need 300/300 you can probably pick up
some older 11ghz radios that'll do ~360Mbps pretty cheap.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:52 PM Steve Jones 
wrote:

> at that short a distance you can do gig easy on 2' antennas in 11ghz
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often, depending on
>> where you are), you can get that kind of capacity out of 24ghz or 80ghz at
>> that distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or 18ghz licensed are the only real options.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and *not* in the 5ghz frequency? Trying
>>> to get 300/300
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy Trimmell
>>>
>>> *Business Manager*
>>>
>>> *PDS Connect*
>>>
>>> 317-831-3000
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Ken Hohhof]

And it should go without saying that anything in licensed bands (11 GHz, 18 
GHz, etc.) needs frequency coordination and FCC licensing.

 

I’d like to think nobody picks up used 11 GHz radios or some AF11’s at an 
attractive price and thinks you can just fire them up like unlicensed, but I 
suspect it happens.  I’ve heard things like “if it required a license, the 
distributor would have asked for one before he sold it to me”.  It’s not like 
asking to see your FOID card.

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 1:08 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

 

Yeah... and actually, if you only need 300/300 you can probably pick up some 
older 11ghz radios that'll do ~360Mbps pretty cheap.

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:52 PM Steve Jones mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

at that short a distance you can do gig easy on 2' antennas in 11ghz

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often, depending on where 
you are), you can get that kind of capacity out of 24ghz or 80ghz at that 
distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or 18ghz licensed are the only real options.

 

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell mailto:atrimm...@precisionds.com> > wrote:

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and not in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to get 
300/300

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

PDS Connect

317-831-3000

 

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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Steve Jones]

at that short a distance you can do gig easy on 2' antennas in 11ghz

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:47 PM Mathew Howard  wrote:

> If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often, depending on
> where you are), you can get that kind of capacity out of 24ghz or 80ghz at
> that distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or 18ghz licensed are the only real options.
>
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell 
> wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and *not* in the 5ghz frequency? Trying
>> to get 300/300
>>
>>
>>
>> Andy Trimmell
>>
>> *Business Manager*
>>
>> *PDS Connect*
>>
>> 317-831-3000
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Mathew Howard]

If you don't mind it dropping occasionally (or maybe often, depending on
where you are), you can get that kind of capacity out of 24ghz or 80ghz at
that distance. Otherwise, 11ghz or 18ghz licensed are the only real options.

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell 
wrote:

> Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and *not* in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to
> get 300/300
>
>
>
> Andy Trimmell
>
> *Business Manager*
>
> *PDS Connect*
>
> 317-831-3000
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[David Coudron]

I assume you are talking about PTP?  If you want to do licensed, you can do 11 
GHz.  It will hit those speeds for IP throughput.  PTMP would be tough outside 
of 5 GHz.

Regards,

David Coudron


From: AF  On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2020 12:38 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and not in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to get 
300/300

Andy Trimmell
Business Manager
PDS Connect
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Re: [AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Adair Winter]

18Ghz Avaiat WTM4100 or SIAE AlfoPlus

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 12:38 PM Andy Trimmell 
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> Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and *not* in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to
> get 300/300
>
>
>
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[AFMUG] 3.86 link

[Andy Trimmell]

Any suggestions for 3.86 miles and not in the 5ghz frequency? Trying to
get 300/300

 

Andy Trimmell

Business Manager

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