Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Gino A. Villarini 
The propposal would take some time to be in effect, I guessing 18-24 months… so 
don’t be so quick with the trigger


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From: AF  on behalf of Dev 
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Date: Thursday, April 2, 2020 at 5:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

This is for the proposed 1200 MHz FCC Chair Pai is pushing for in 6Ghz, so 
higher than 5.9, wouldn’t the antenna need to change for best transmission 
characteristics the further it pushes into 6, or will propagation models still 
be good with existing gear?


On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:55 PM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com>> 
wrote:

cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a few 
weeks? ugh.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev 
mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com>> wrote:
Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be needed. 
Question from Congress critter.
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Ken Hohhof 
Each frequency band is different hardware for licensed radios.  So 6 GHz is 
totally different from 11 GHz, etc.

 

A split architecture radio might have a common modem, but the ODU will be 
different.  The modem is probably operating at some baseband or IF frequency.  
But for all-outdoor licensed radios, it’s not just an antenna change.  And 
different sub bands might require different diplexers.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Dev
Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 4:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

 

I notice other licensed backhaul vendor radios are available in wide ranges of 
frequencies, like the Cambium PTP 820C in 6-38GHz range, do they just swap 
external antennas for best propagation characteristics, or do they also swap RF 
sections of the radios themselves? 

 

I guess the question really is how fast they could tool up, which related to 
how expensive that would be for them. What all has to change to make 6Ghz 
unlicensed work?





On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

 

Don’t confuse the 5850-5895 which is available now with a STA with the 6Ghz 
proposal that covers 6 to just over 7Ghz.  

 

The Cambium (and likely Ubiquiti) UNI-III 5.8 equipment will work in the STA 
frequencies.

 

The 6Ghz proposal is well outside of the design frequencies for the UNI-III 
band and will likely require different hardware.

 

Mark





On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:55 PM, TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com> 
> wrote:

 

cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a few 
weeks? ugh.

 

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com> > wrote:

Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be needed. 
Question from Congress critter.
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Dev 
I notice other licensed backhaul vendor radios are available in wide ranges of 
frequencies, like the Cambium PTP 820C in 6-38GHz range, do they just swap 
external antennas for best propagation characteristics, or do they also swap RF 
sections of the radios themselves? 

I guess the question really is how fast they could tool up, which related to 
how expensive that would be for them. What all has to change to make 6Ghz 
unlicensed work?

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Mark Radabaugh  wrote:
> 
> Don’t confuse the 5850-5895 which is available now with a STA with the 6Ghz 
> proposal that covers 6 to just over 7Ghz.  
> 
> The Cambium (and likely Ubiquiti) UNI-III 5.8 equipment will work in the STA 
> frequencies.
> 
> The 6Ghz proposal is well outside of the design frequencies for the UNI-III 
> band and will likely require different hardware.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:55 PM, TJ Trout > > wrote:
>> 
>> cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a 
>> few weeks? ugh.
>> 
>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev > > wrote:
>> Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
>> opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be 
>> needed. Question from Congress critter.
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Dev 
This is for the proposed 1200 MHz FCC Chair Pai is pushing for in 6Ghz, so 
higher than 5.9, wouldn’t the antenna need to change for best transmission 
characteristics the further it pushes into 6, or will propagation models still 
be good with existing gear?

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 1:55 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a 
> few weeks? ugh.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev  > wrote:
> Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
> opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be 
> needed. Question from Congress critter.
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Mark Radabaugh 
Don’t confuse the 5850-5895 which is available now with a STA with the 6Ghz 
proposal that covers 6 to just over 7Ghz.  

The Cambium (and likely Ubiquiti) UNI-III 5.8 equipment will work in the STA 
frequencies.

The 6Ghz proposal is well outside of the design frequencies for the UNI-III 
band and will likely require different hardware.

Mark

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 4:55 PM, TJ Trout  wrote:
> 
> cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a 
> few weeks? ugh.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev  > wrote:
> Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
> opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be 
> needed. Question from Congress critter.
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Re: [AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread TJ Trout 
cambium yes, ubnt yes but will they release a firmware update?? maybe in a
few weeks? ugh.

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 1:50 PM Dev  wrote:

> Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed
> band opens up with a software upgrade in the field, or will new hardware be
> needed. Question from Congress critter.
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[AFMUG] 5.8 -> 6GHz equipment software upgrade only?

2020-04-02 Thread Dev 
Will existing Cambium/UBNT 5.8GHz equipment work if the 6GHz unlicensed band 
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