Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Aliens on the list! bp On 1/17/2023 8:40 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: my head is exploding! On 1/16/23 16:09, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: All you need to know: https://youtu.be/egUdn7skq4k -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 4:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. bp On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ---
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
my head is exploding! On 1/16/23 16:09, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: All you need to know: https://youtu.be/egUdn7skq4k -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 4:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. bp On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Love that movie. -- Christopher Tyler Senior Network Engineer MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com This institution is an equal opportunity provider and employer. Esta institución es un proveedor de servicios con igualdad de oportunidades. - Original Message - > From: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Cc: "Chuck McCown" > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 6:09:31 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > All you need to know: https://youtu.be/egUdn7skq4k > > -Original Message- > From: Bill Prince > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 4:45 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > > I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. > > > bp > > > On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called >> Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other >> area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was >> warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance >> to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the >> military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One >> was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at >> 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I >> think they were bluffing. >> >> -Original Message----- From: Jan-GAMs >> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz >> >> Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? >> >> On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: >>> When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen >>> employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a >>> weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. >>> Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no >>> way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly >>> shuttle came around again. >>> >>> There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little >>> airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at >>> the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the >>> airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She >>> answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do >>> that with his car." Whoops. >>> >>> In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and >>> I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to >>> SFO. >>> >>> >>> bp >>> >>> >>> On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: >>>> Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which >>>> is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: >>>>> The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, >>>>> which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little >>>>> water". That was an understatement. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>>>> I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think >>>>>> on the edge of the restricted area. >>>>>> I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. >>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM >>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central >>>>>> Office.kmz >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and >>>>>> escort) to be there. >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>>>>>> Looks like
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
R-4808N? There are a boatload of R areas out there. R-4808N is the golden ticket... On 1/16/23 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
All you need to know: https://youtu.be/egUdn7skq4k -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 4:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. bp On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
I can say that I saw and heard things there that I should not talk about. bp On 1/16/2023 3:32 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Pretty sure this whole are Bill and Robert are talking about can be called Area 51. I know that is not technically correct as they have had other area numbers out there but most folks would just say Area 51. I was warned to never stray into their airspace, but I think I got a clearance to fly through it once. We had tactical call signs assigned by the military and we got to fly through other R areas before. Telephone One was a M-20 and Telephone Two was a C-150. Once they cleared me through at 150 agl or below. I accepted the clearance. That was a fun afternoon. I think they were bluffing. -Original Message- From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 2:20 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Isn't that the same flight that stops at area 51? On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Little woodies in the woods of Kolob? Minors at play? On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Something like that. I think it's OK to say I was doing a thing for Sandia. bp On 1/16/2023 12:43 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: You got to ride on Janet Airlines? ( red strip 737's ) Janet is the call sign and some people say it stands for Just Another Non-Existant Terminal... On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
You got to ride on Janet Airlines? ( red strip 737's ) Janet is the call sign and some people say it stands for Just Another Non-Existant Terminal... On 1/16/23 12:11, Bill Prince wrote: When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
When I was there, they had a daily "shuttle" that flew a couple dozen employees between there are Las Vegas. The gig I was on got me there on a weekly shuttle between Livermore CA and the private airport on site. Because I finished my part of the gig 4 days early, I was looking at no way to get back to the Bay Area for (maybe) 4 days until the weekly shuttle came around again. There were zero commercial flights out of Tonopah, and their little airport, so I asked the proprietor at the motel if I could rent a car at the Tonopah airport. She replied that yes, I could rent a car at the airport. I said "Great! I want to rent a one-way to the Bay Area." She answered back, "Oh Joe (don't remember the real name) wouldn't let you do that with his car." Whoops. In the end, one of the seats on the daily shuttle became "available", and I got out of there and to Las Vegas where I hopped a flight from there to SFO. bp On 1/16/2023 11:46 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Tonapah is also famous in weather circles for the "Tonapah Low"... Which is a lot like how you feel when you stay there... On 1/16/23 10:15, Bill Prince wrote: The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Went to one where I was black masked and everywhere was black curtains except on the desk where the computer I was working on sat. Rolm Mil-Spec in the 80's On 1/16/23 09:43, Larry Smith wrote: LOL, been to a few of those. Key point to remember is nowhere is now here also. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Yep, Tonopah is certainly a western town. Right out of 1850.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 11:15 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I
was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an
understatement.
bp
On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on
the edge of the restricted area.
I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to
be there.
bp
On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Looks like a place to get probed.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in
1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere.
bp
On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
If nowhere was on a map, this would be it.
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The nearby town where I stayed (it was a 3-day gig) is called Tonopah, which I was told was an Indian word meaning "little wood, little water". That was an understatement. bp On 1/16/2023 9:56 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the edge of the restricted area. I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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I have flown around it a few times. Tikaboo Peak is nearby and I think on the
edge of the restricted area.
I used to serve a town in Utah named Ticaboo.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 10:18 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to
be there.
bp
On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Looks like a place to get probed.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978
(or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere.
bp
On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
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Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz
LOL, been to a few of those. Key point to remember is nowhere is now here also. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon January 16 2023 11:18, Bill Prince wrote: > I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and > escort) to be there. > > > bp > > > On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Looks like a place to get probed. > > *From:* Bill Prince > > *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM > > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > > > > Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back > > in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. > > > > bp > > > > > > On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >> If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> Mike Hammett > >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentCom > >>putingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-compu > >>ting-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange > >> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/mid > >>west-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP > >> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >> > >> > >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >> > >> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > >> *To: *af@af.afmug.com > >> *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com > >> *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM > >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz > >> > >> > >> -- > >> AF mailing list > >> AF@af.afmug.com > >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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I don't know how much I can talk about it; needed a clearance (and escort) to be there. bp On 1/16/2023 8:32 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Looks like a place to get probed. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Looks like a place to get probed. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, January 16, 2023 8:46 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -- From: "Chuck McCown via AF" mailto:af@af.afmug.com To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Not so sure about that. I was at a place that felt like Nowhere back in 1978 (or79?). It sure looked and felt like Nowhere. bp On 1/16/2023 7:01 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: If nowhere was on a map, this would be it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> *From: *"Chuck McCown via AF" *To: *af@af.afmug.com *Cc: *"Chuck McCown" *Sent: *Sunday, January 15, 2023 6:10:03 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Google Earth Placemark: Kolob Central Office.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com Nowhere, NV.kmz Description: application/vnd.google-earth.kmz -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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Are we planning a site visit? On Sun, Jan 15, 2023 at 7:14 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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