[AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' bore into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already 2 other fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via Microwave. I'm thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that circuit, as I can't see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the goodness of their heart I'm guessing similar things are being done all over the country. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an > emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' bore > into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already 2 other > fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via Microwave. I'm > thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that circuit, as I can't > see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the goodness of their > heart I'm guessing similar things are being done all over the country. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
Covid 19 command center? How big of a population is that government agency going to service that has jurisdiction there? On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:23 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. > > They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you > pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? > > > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > > > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an > emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' > bore into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already > 2 other fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via > Microwave. I'm thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that > circuit, as I can't see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the > goodness of their heart I'm guessing similar things are being done > all over the country. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
Nate is in the Chicago suburbs. Probably 500k people in a ten mile radius of his office. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:19:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging Covid 19 command center? How big of a population is that government agency going to service that has jurisdiction there? On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:23 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > wrote: We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke < n...@blastcomm.com > wrote: > > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an > emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' bore > into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already 2 other > fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via Microwave. I'm > thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that circuit, as I can't > see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the goodness of their > heart I'm guessing similar things are being done all over the country. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
Would this be related to FirstNet, which I understand is mostly an AT&T thing? On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. > > They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you > pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? > > > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > > > > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an > emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' > bore into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already > 2 other fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via > Microwave. I'm thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that > circuit, as I can't see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the > goodness of their heart I'm guessing similar things are being done > all over the country. > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
Gouging is when you take advantage of someone in need to charge an amount higher than market value. This is taking advantage of a signed check with no dollar amount in the amount field. Its like finding an open ATM when the power is out. There's no camera functioning, so you're really only limited by the size of your pockets and whoever is watching. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:54 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Would this be related to FirstNet, which I understand is mostly an AT&T > thing? > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > >> We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. >> >> They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you >> pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? >> >> > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke wrote: >> > >> > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an >> emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' >> bore into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already >> 2 other fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via >> Microwave. I'm thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that >> circuit, as I can't see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the >> goodness of their heart I'm guessing similar things are being done >> all over the country. >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > - Forrest > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging
It could just be expediency, or some agency had a cookie cutter emergency plan drawn up that they invoked. Kind of like NYC having FEMA or the Army Corps of Engineers set up prefab hospitals in the Javits Center. You make one call and it’s done, you don’t have to manage any of the details, someone else does it and you can focus on other things. It may not be the lowest cost or the most creative or even the best, but the vendor is on your approved list, you’ve worked with them before, what they’re going to deliver has already been worked out, and they manage the project. I’m thinking of the company ABC Plumbing/Heating/Cooling/Electric that runs commercials in the Chicago area. Homeowner has a problem, what are you doing about it, I called ABC. Tagline: “so it’s done”. Their pitch isn’t low cost or any of the other typical claims you see in ads, it’s you make one call and it’s done. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:26 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Price Gouging Gouging is when you take advantage of someone in need to charge an amount higher than market value. This is taking advantage of a signed check with no dollar amount in the amount field. Its like finding an open ATM when the power is out. There's no camera functioning, so you're really only limited by the size of your pockets and whoever is watching. On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 9:54 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote: Would this be related to FirstNet, which I understand is mostly an AT&T thing? On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 3:23 PM Matt Hoppes mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > wrote: We are doing it with one of the county governments we service. They probably have an arrangement to use ATT or something. Why would you pay for a build when you have two other carriers already there? > On Mar 27, 2020, at 5:02 PM, Nate Burke <mailto:n...@blastcomm.com> > wrote: > > I'm guessing the telco's are exempt from price gouging. We just saw an > emergency underground locate come through so that AT&T could do a 2000' bore > into a building to provide 'covid19 command center' There are already 2 other > fiber providers in the building, and we could reach it via Microwave. I'm > thinking the sales guy made his yearly commission on that circuit, as I can't > see AT&T doing an install at that speed out of the goodness of their > heart I'm guessing similar things are being done all over the country. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- - Forrest -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
