Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Josh Luthman]

You're welcome.  Glad it worked!!!

On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 3:42 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> In the end, the simplest solution was the Mikrotik GPeR. A little tiny
> repeater goober about the size of a stick of gum. I could supply power
> to it via POE, so I did not have a gigantic contraption to power at the
> weather station. Just the little goober.
>
> Thanks Josh.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
> On 8/16/2022 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >
> > We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at
> > least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility
> > room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of
> > central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located
> > in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch,
> > which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a
> > problem with it.
> >
> > We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just
> > fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a
> > place we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located,
> > but has better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the
> > switch there and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.
> >
> > So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back
> > to the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch
> > of "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for
> > 4 or 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the
> > stalling out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.
> >
> > So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather
> > station. Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that
> > Davis no longer makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got
> > into the router and set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it
> > actually seems to run longer this way, but still gets to the too many
> > errors condition after a while.
> >
> > I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger
> > goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I
> > put another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather
> > station, I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least
> > with a stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of
> > hours/days).
> >
> > So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or
> > maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the
> > weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the
> > Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if
> > there was something even smaller?
> >
> > The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports
> > on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is
> > located elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If
> > there was one with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather
> > station.
> >
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Bill Prince]

In the end, the simplest solution was the Mikrotik GPeR. A little tiny 
repeater goober about the size of a stick of gum. I could supply power 
to it via POE, so I did not have a gigantic contraption to power at the 
weather station. Just the little goober.


Thanks Josh.


bp


On 8/16/2022 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at 
least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility 
room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of 
central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located 
in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch, 
which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a 
problem with it.


We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just 
fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a 
place we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located, 
but has better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the 
switch there and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.


So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back 
to the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch 
of "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for 
4 or 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the 
stalling out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.


So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather 
station. Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that 
Davis no longer makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got 
into the router and set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it 
actually seems to run longer this way, but still gets to the too many 
errors condition after a while.


I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger 
goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I 
put another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather 
station, I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least 
with a stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of 
hours/days).


So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or 
maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the 
weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the 
Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if 
there was something even smaller?


The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports 
on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is 
located elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If 
there was one with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather 
station.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Trey Scarborough]

or a gpen21 its a 3 port switch with one being an SFP

I also often use the TP-LINK TL-SG105 I'm pretty sure they are about 
4"4"x1" and there under $20 I pick a couple up every time I'm at 
microcenter.



On 8/16/22 9:26 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
Lookup the MikroTik hAP mini, even without case, or the 2-port mAP. I 
don't think that you can get smaller without extreme engineering.


On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 8:35 PM Robert, > wrote:


get a tempest

On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
>
> We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it
for at
> least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility
> room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was
kind of
> central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP
located
> in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port
switch,
> which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never
had a
> problem with it.
>
> We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing
drastic, just
> fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a
> place we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally
located,
> but has better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the
> switch there and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.
>
> So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection
back
> to the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a
bunch
> of "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it
runs for
> 4 or 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to
the
> stalling out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.
>
> So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather
> station. Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that
> Davis no longer makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got
> into the router and set the port that it's on to 10/half dux,
and it
> actually seems to run longer this way, but still gets to the too
many
> errors condition after a while.
>
> I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data
logger
> goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I
> put another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather
> station, I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at
least
> with a stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of
> hours/days).
>
> So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or
> maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to
the
> weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the
> Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just
wondering if
> there was something even smaller?
>
> The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet
ports
> on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is
> located elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If
> there was one with two, I could just plop the pi next to the
weather
> station.
>


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Colin Stanners]

Lookup the MikroTik hAP mini, even without case, or the 2-port mAP. I don't
think that you can get smaller without extreme engineering.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022, 8:35 PM Robert,  wrote:

> get a tempest
>
> On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
> >
> > We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at
> > least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility
> > room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of
> > central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located
> > in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch,
> > which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a
> > problem with it.
> >
> > We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just
> > fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a
> > place we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located,
> > but has better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the
> > switch there and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.
> >
> > So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back
> > to the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch
> > of "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for
> > 4 or 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the
> > stalling out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.
> >
> > So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather
> > station. Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that
> > Davis no longer makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got
> > into the router and set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it
> > actually seems to run longer this way, but still gets to the too many
> > errors condition after a while.
> >
> > I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger
> > goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I
> > put another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather
> > station, I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least
> > with a stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of
> > hours/days).
> >
> > So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or
> > maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the
> > weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the
> > Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if
> > there was something even smaller?
> >
> > The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports
> > on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is
> > located elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If
> > there was one with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather
> > station.
> >
>
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Robert]

get a tempest

On 8/16/22 12:36 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at 
least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility 
room where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of 
central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located 
in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch, 
which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a 
problem with it.


We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just 
fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a 
place we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located, 
but has better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the 
switch there and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.


So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back 
to the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch 
of "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for 
4 or 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the 
stalling out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.


So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather 
station. Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that 
Davis no longer makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got 
into the router and set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it 
actually seems to run longer this way, but still gets to the too many 
errors condition after a while.


I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger 
goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I 
put another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather 
station, I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least 
with a stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of 
hours/days).


So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or 
maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the 
weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the 
Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if 
there was something even smaller?


The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports 
on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is 
located elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If 
there was one with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather 
station.





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Re: [AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Josh Luthman]

This says it does 10 meg...

https://mikrotik.com/product/gper

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 3:37 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

>
> We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at
> least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room
> where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of
> central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located
> in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch,
> which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a
> problem with it.
>
> We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just
> fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a place
> we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located, but has
> better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the switch there
> and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.
>
> So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back to
> the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch of
> "excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for 4 or
> 5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the stalling
> out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.
>
> So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather station.
> Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that Davis no longer
> makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got into the router and
> set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it actually seems to run
> longer this way, but still gets to the too many errors condition after a
> while.
>
> I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger
> goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I put
> another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather station,
> I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least with a
> stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of hours/days).
>
> So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or
> maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the
> weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the
> Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if
> there was something even smaller?
>
> The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports
> on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is located
> elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If there was one
> with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather station.
>
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[AFMUG] OT: extra-small 10/100 ethernet switch/repeater

[Bill Prince]

We have this Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station. We've had it for at 
least 12 or 14 years. For quite some time, we had it in our utility room 
where it was out of the way. Because the utility room was kind of 
central to the main part of the house, we also had our WiFi AP located 
in that room, and they both ran off a small (Netgear) 5-port switch, 
which relayed to our router at the far end of the house. Never had a 
problem with it.


We recently started refreshing the utility room. Nothing drastic, just 
fresh floor, paint, and trim. In the process we moved the WAP to a place 
we call "the alcove", which is still fairly centrally located, but has 
better clearance to the outside/deck area. So we moved the switch there 
and put our VoIP phones on the switch with the WAP.


So the weather station is now on a dedicated ethernet connection back to 
the router. Suddenly the weather station "stalls out" after a bunch of 
"excessive collision/speed mismatch" errors. Sometimes it runs for 4 or 
5 hours, sometimes it runs a day or two, but always gets to the stalling 
out phase after a bunch of ethernet errors.


So I started looking into the ethernet interface on the weather station. 
Turns out, it's an obsolete data logger contraption that Davis no longer 
makes, and it runs 10Base-T half duplex. Erg. I got into the router and 
set the port that it's on to 10/half dux, and it actually seems to run 
longer this way, but still gets to the too many errors condition after a 
while.


I think I've come to the conclusion that the funky little data logger 
goober on the weather station is just not very robust. I think if I put 
another switch or ethernet repeater co-located with the weather station, 
I can get it back to the state of mostly working (or at least with a 
stall rate that is measured in months/years instead of hours/days).


So what I'm looking for is the smallest/tiniest ethernet switch (or 
maybe just a repeater) that can be installed on the wall next to the 
weather station console as possible. This may be difficult, as the 
Netgear fast switch we had there is only 4x4 inches. Just wondering if 
there was something even smaller?


The other option is (maybe) a Raspberry Pi that has two ethernet ports 
on it? We run the weather station with a Raspberry Pi 3 that is located 
elsewhere on the LAN, but it only has 1 ethernet port. If there was one 
with two, I could just plop the pi next to the weather station.


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