Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
Not exactly... :) Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM James Howard wrote: > One of those deals where the salesman tells everybody that “I gave you a > lower price than ANYONE else gets so don’t tell anyone what you’re paying > because they’ll complain and I’ll get in trouble and have to raise your > prices” hoping that nobody will compare notes? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 8:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > There's a minimum. It's not too hateful. > > > > I don't feel comfortable with posting what we're paying... > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > > Seems it was so much per sub and a minimum. > > > > *From:* Ryan Ray > > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 3:19 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Prices are negotiable. Call Calix and start a conversation. > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 2:01 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > > What does Calex get per month to manage the gigaspires? What are the > minimums. > > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 2:25 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Well a GS4227 is a gigaspire u6xso that being close it's probably the > same WiFi deal. > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:56 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > > That is typical with the U6, Jan. > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > > The label says Gigaspire GS4220E. I'm impressed, just got in from another > install. The in room signal was at -32db, the backroom was at -32db. The > air-Cube was in room -32db the back room was at -50db. I used the wifi > analyzer app on my android to measure the signal. I don't believe the test > results. Never seen a no-loss through walls before. I must have > screwed-up. Both units were mounted at same place. > > On 10/29/21 13:25, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Was it a Gigaspire u6? > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:10 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > > We're replacing aircubes with gigaspires, a calix product. A job I went > to yesterday had a frontier router(now zipley) that was barely reaching a > back-bedroom with -78db. The Calix gigaspire showed -60db in that room. > The aircubes which I haven't had a chance to compare to a gigaspire yet > we're hands down better than airrouters and a little better than the > air-routers LR which I had thought were pretty good devices as they were > better than tplinks. The sense of using a $300 unit to replace a new $27 > unit makes none to me, but it does come with a fancy phone app. The ROI is > over a year IMHO. > > On 10/29/21 11:28, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: > > I supposedly have the fountain of youth in my back yard. > > > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On > Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2021 12:03 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Supposably 300 mbps under those conditions > > > > > > > > > > <https://aeronetpr.com/> > > *Gino Villarini* > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > > <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> > > <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> > > <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> > > <https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> > > <https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > <https://homefi.pr/> > > *From: *AF on behalf of dmmoff...@gmail.com < > dmmoff...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:54 AM > *To: *'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > It might be a good link, but 6db won’t give you good
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
Sounds like normal business to me. On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 10:25 AM James Howard wrote: > One of those deals where the salesman tells everybody that “I gave you a > lower price than ANYONE else gets so don’t tell anyone what you’re paying > because they’ll complain and I’ll get in trouble and have to raise your > prices” hoping that nobody will compare notes? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 2, 2021 8:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > There's a minimum. It's not too hateful. > > > > I don't feel comfortable with posting what we're paying... > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > > Seems it was so much per sub and a minimum. > > > > *From:* Ryan Ray > > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 3:19 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Prices are negotiable. Call Calix and start a conversation. > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 2:01 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > > What does Calex get per month to manage the gigaspires? What are the > minimums. > > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > > *Sent:* Monday, November 1, 2021 2:25 PM > > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Well a GS4227 is a gigaspire u6xso that being close it's probably the > same WiFi deal. > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:56 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > > That is typical with the U6, Jan. > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > > The label says Gigaspire GS4220E. I'm impressed, just got in from another > install. The in room signal was at -32db, the backroom was at -32db. The > air-Cube was in room -32db the back room was at -50db. I used the wifi > analyzer app on my android to measure the signal. I don't believe the test > results. Never seen a no-loss through walls before. I must have > screwed-up. Both units were mounted at same place. > > On 10/29/21 13:25, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Was it a Gigaspire u6? > > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:10 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > > We're replacing aircubes with gigaspires, a calix product. A job I went > to yesterday had a frontier router(now zipley) that was barely reaching a > back-bedroom with -78db. The Calix gigaspire showed -60db in that room. > The aircubes which I haven't had a chance to compare to a gigaspire yet > we're hands down better than airrouters and a little better than the > air-routers LR which I had thought were pretty good devices as they were > better than tplinks. The sense of using a $300 unit to replace a new $27 > unit makes none to me, but it does come with a fancy phone app. The ROI is > over a year IMHO. > > On 10/29/21 11:28, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: > > I supposedly have the fountain of youth in my back yard. > > > > > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On > Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Friday, October 29, 2021 12:03 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > > > Supposably 300 mbps under those conditions > > > > > > > > > > <https://aeronetpr.com/> > > *Gino Villarini* > Founder / President > @GVillarini > 787.273.4143 | > > <https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> > > <https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> > > <https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> > > <https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> > > <https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> > > Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 > > <https://homefi.pr/> > > *From: *AF on behalf of dmmoff...@gmail.com < > dmmoff...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:54 AM > *To: *'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 > > It might be a good link, but 6db won’t give you good system capacity. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villari
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
One of those deals where the salesman tells everybody that “I gave you a lower price than ANYONE else gets so don’t tell anyone what you’re paying because they’ll complain and I’ll get in trouble and have to raise your prices” hoping that nobody will compare notes? From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 8:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 There's a minimum. It's not too hateful. I don't feel comfortable with posting what we're paying... Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:34 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: Seems it was so much per sub and a minimum. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 3:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 Prices are negotiable. Call Calix and start a conversation. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 2:01 PM Chuck McCown via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote: What does Calex get per month to manage the gigaspires? What are the minimums. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 2:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 Well a GS4227 is a gigaspire u6xso that being close it's probably the same WiFi deal. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:56 PM Ryan Ray mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote: That is typical with the U6, Jan. On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 6:07 PM Jan-GAMs mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote: The label says Gigaspire GS4220E. I'm impressed, just got in from another install. The in room signal was at -32db, the backroom was at -32db. The air-Cube was in room -32db the back room was at -50db. I used the wifi analyzer app on my android to measure the signal. I don't believe the test results. Never seen a no-loss through walls before. I must have screwed-up. Both units were mounted at same place. On 10/29/21 13:25, Josh Luthman wrote: Was it a Gigaspire u6? Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 4:10 PM Jan-GAMs mailto:j.vank...@grnacres.net>> wrote: We're replacing aircubes with gigaspires, a calix product. A job I went to yesterday had a frontier router(now zipley) that was barely reaching a back-bedroom with -78db. The Calix gigaspire showed -60db in that room. The aircubes which I haven't had a chance to compare to a gigaspire yet we're hands down better than airrouters and a little better than the air-routers LR which I had thought were pretty good devices as they were better than tplinks. The sense of using a $300 unit to replace a new $27 unit makes none to me, but it does come with a fancy phone app. The ROI is over a year IMHO. On 10/29/21 11:28, dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: I supposedly have the fountain of youth in my back yard. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 12:03 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 Supposably 300 mbps under those conditions [cid:image016.png@01D7CFE4.7FAC4B50]<https://aeronetpr.com/> Gino Villarini Founder / President @GVillarini 787.273.4143 | [cid:image002.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet> [cid:image003.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr> [cid:image004.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/> [cid:image005.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp> [cid:image006.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://twitter.com/aeronetpr> [cid:image007.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800]<https://www.youtube.com/user/AeroNetPR> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 [cid:image017.jpg@01D7CFE4.7FAC4B50]<https://homefi.pr/> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> Date: Friday, October 29, 2021 at 10:54 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 It might be a good link, but 6db won’t give you good system capacity. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 10:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 Good tech, we are going to try it. They are clamming 6db SNR ratio for good link… let see [cid:image016.png@01D7CFE4.7FAC4B50]<https://aeronetpr.com/> Gino Villarini Founder / President @GVillarini 787.273.4143 | [cid:image009.png@01D7CFE4.7C9E4800
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
"Our G1 system delivers fiber-class speeds and quality over non-line-of-sight connections at long range - in unlicensed spectrum - that are immune to interference and changes in the scene," That statement is on their main page and it already makes them full of crap. If I assume that sentence to contain a kernel of truth then it's probably an incremental improvement in nLOS performance. No matter what improvements they've made the Shannon-Hartley theorem still applies so "Immune to interference" is obviously a statement made with no regard for its truthfulness (i.e.: bullshit). -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com Sent: Friday, October 29, 2021 9:42 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Tarana G1 More snake oil or anything of substance? The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 or 5 GHz. https://www.taranawireless.com/ - Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
Like what? Tushar > On Oct 29, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > It’s expensive…especially the CPE. > > I think they’ve made several major technological leaps though. > > Jeff Broadwick > CTIconnect > 312-205-2519 Office > 574-220-7826 Cell > jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > >>> On Oct 29, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: >>> >> >> The webinar had some strongly encouraging statements from Wisper, a >> respected WISP. Tarana really isn't forthcoming on pricing so I suspect that >> we won't like the price tag. I am speaking with another WISP who is looking >> to bring equipment in for a test. >> >>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:42 AM wrote: >>> More snake oil or anything of substance? >>> >>> The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 >>> or 5 GHz. >>> >>> https://www.taranawireless.com/ >>> >>> >>> - Jared >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
It’s expensive…especially the CPE. I think they’ve made several major technological leaps though. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Oct 29, 2021, at 9:59 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: > > > The webinar had some strongly encouraging statements from Wisper, a respected > WISP. Tarana really isn't forthcoming on pricing so I suspect that we won't > like the price tag. I am speaking with another WISP who is looking to bring > equipment in for a test. > >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:42 AM wrote: >> More snake oil or anything of substance? >> >> The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 or >> 5 GHz. >> >> https://www.taranawireless.com/ >> >> >> - Jared >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Tarana G1
The webinar had some strongly encouraging statements from Wisper, a respected WISP. Tarana really isn't forthcoming on pricing so I suspect that we won't like the price tag. I am speaking with another WISP who is looking to bring equipment in for a test. On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 8:42 AM wrote: > More snake oil or anything of substance? > > The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 > or 5 GHz. > > https://www.taranawireless.com/ > > > - Jared > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
[AFMUG] Tarana G1
More snake oil or anything of substance? The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 or 5 GHz. https://www.taranawireless.com/ - Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com