[AFMUG] fiber customer routers
What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor lock in for overpriced SFP’s. Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with remote management)? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. By far better than any other managed solution available today. On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev wrote: > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has > some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are > priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who > score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like > their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor > lock in for overpriced SFP’s. > > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with > remote management)? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how you ever lived without them. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. By far better than any other managed solution available today. On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev wrote: What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor lock in for overpriced SFP’s. Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with remote management)? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
We're starting to use the Gigaspires, they have a newer model that is somewhat like an updated 844E. On Mon, Jun 8, 2020 at 8:07 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based > on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that > expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. > > By far better than any other managed solution available today. > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev wrote: > >> What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has >> some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are >> priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who >> score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like >> their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor >> lock in for overpriced SFP’s. >> >> Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with >> remote management)? >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how you ever lived without them. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. By far better than any other managed solution available today. On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor lock in for overpriced SFP’s. Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with remote management)? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
Speaking of Calix 844e’s… How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 Ryan > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, even > reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock you in to > their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > > > > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and > control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with the > garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how you > ever lived without them. > > > > > From: Darin Steffl > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based on > purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that expensive > at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. > > By far better than any other managed solution available today. > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: > > > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has some > that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are priced as > such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who score well on > tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like their > proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor lock in for > overpriced SFP’s. > > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with remote > management)? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order is probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS doesn't lose it on the way here like my drops cables... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:55 AM Ryan Hill wrote: > Speaking of Calix 844e’s… > > How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a > horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 > > Ryan > > > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > > > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, > even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock > you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. > > > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and > control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with > the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how > you ever lived without them. > > > > > > > > > > From: Darin Steffl > > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > > > > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down > based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that > expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. > > > > By far better than any other managed solution available today. > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: > > > > > > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has > some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are > priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who > score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like > their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor > lock in for overpriced SFP’s. > > > > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with > remote management)? > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
Yep, we’ve created PO’s and placed all our orders till end of 2020. > On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order is > probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS doesn't > lose it on the way here like my drops cables... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:55 AM Ryan Hill <mailto:rh...@amplex.net>> wrote: > Speaking of Calix 844e’s… > > How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a > horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 > > Ryan > > > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > > > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, even > > reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock you in > > to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. > > > > > > > > - > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message - > > From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and > > control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with > > the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how > > you ever lived without them. > > > > > > > > > > From: Darin Steffl > > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM > > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers > > > > > > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down based > > on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that > > expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. > > > > By far better than any other managed solution available today. > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > > <mailto:d...@logicalwebhost.com> > wrote: > > > > > > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has > > some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are > > priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who > > score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like > > their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor > > lock in for overpriced SFP’s. > > > > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with > > remote management)? > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > > -- > > AF mailing list > > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > <http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
We have a purchase agreement with them and have 150 routers ship every 2 months. This way inventory is guaranteed and ships on time. We don't have the same agreement for the 804Mesh so they're telling me 4-6 weeks out on that order since I did that on demand. So with Calix, I would highly recommend placing orders at least 2 months in advance or do a large purchase order and schedule X amount to ship every month or two. On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:30 AM Ryan Hill wrote: > Yep, we’ve created PO’s and placed all our orders till end of 2020. > > > > On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order > is probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS > doesn't lose it on the way here like my drops cables... > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:55 AM Ryan Hill wrote: > >> Speaking of Calix 844e’s… >> >> How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a >> horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 >> >> Ryan >> >> > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> > >> > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, >> even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock >> you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > >> > Midwest Internet Exchange >> > >> > The Brothers WISP >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - Original Message - >> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com >> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight and >> control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing with >> the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder how >> you ever lived without them. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: Darin Steffl >> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM >> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >> > >> > >> > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down >> based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that >> expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. >> > >> > By far better than any other managed solution available today. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: >> > >> > >> > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix has >> some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least are >> priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids who >> score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t like >> their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing vendor >> lock in for overpriced SFP’s. >> > >> > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with >> remote management)? >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > >> > -- >> > AF mailing list >> > AF@af.afmug.com >> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
How are you marketing this? As a separate offering? Included? On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, Darin Steffl wrote: > We have a purchase agreement with them and have 150 routers ship every 2 > months. This way inventory is guaranteed and ships on time. We don't have > the same agreement for the 804Mesh so they're telling me 4-6 weeks out on > that order since I did that on demand. > > So with Calix, I would highly recommend placing orders at least 2 months > in advance or do a large purchase order and schedule X amount to ship every > month or two. > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:30 AM Ryan Hill wrote: > >> Yep, we’ve created PO’s and placed all our orders till end of 2020. >> >> >> >> On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman >> wrote: >> >> It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order >> is probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS >> doesn't lose it on the way here like my drops cables... >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >> Suite 1337 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:55 AM Ryan Hill wrote: >> >>> Speaking of Calix 844e’s… >>> >>> How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a >>> horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>> > >>> > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, >>> even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock >>> you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > - >>> > Mike Hammett >>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> > >>> > Midwest Internet Exchange >>> > >>> > The Brothers WISP >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > - Original Message - >>> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight >>> and control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing >>> with the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder >>> how you ever lived without them. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: Darin Steffl >>> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM >>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >>> > >>> > >>> > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down >>> based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that >>> expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. >>> > >>> > By far better than any other managed solution available today. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix >>> has some that are gold-plated and made with baby seal tears, or at least >>> are priced as such. They promise marital harmony in the home, bright kids >>> who score well on tests, etc. Is there a lest costly alternative? I don’t >>> like their proprietary SFP’s on their GPON setup anyway, guaranteeing >>> vendor lock in for overpriced SFP’s. >>> > >>> > Are you doing media converters and just normal routers (hopefully with >>> remote management)? >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> > >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> > >>> > -- >>> > AF mailing list >>> > AF@af.afmug.com >>> > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers
We raised our plan prices years ago so we just give the router away for free. We want the highest take rate possible so we decided optional wouldn't achieve that goal. We're still making our money on it, it's just baked into our plan prices now. On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 6:57 PM Jason McKemie wrote: > How are you marketing this? As a separate offering? Included? > > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, Darin Steffl wrote: > >> We have a purchase agreement with them and have 150 routers ship every 2 >> months. This way inventory is guaranteed and ships on time. We don't have >> the same agreement for the 804Mesh so they're telling me 4-6 weeks out on >> that order since I did that on demand. >> >> So with Calix, I would highly recommend placing orders at least 2 months >> in advance or do a large purchase order and schedule X amount to ship every >> month or two. >> >> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 9:30 AM Ryan Hill wrote: >> >>> Yep, we’ve created PO’s and placed all our orders till end of 2020. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman >>> wrote: >>> >>> It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March >>> order is probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully >>> UPS doesn't lose it on the way here like my drops cables... >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Suite 1337 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail&source=g> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:55 AM Ryan Hill wrote: >>> >>>> Speaking of Calix 844e’s… >>>> >>>> How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had >>>> a horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>> > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, >>>> even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock >>>> you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > - >>>> > Mike Hammett >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> > >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> > >>>> > The Brothers WISP >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > - Original Message - >>>> > From: ch...@wbmfg.com >>>> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >>>> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 9:12:02 PM >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I don’t think you can beat Calix for value. They allow such insight >>>> and control that it will save you a bunch of time and money just dealing >>>> with the garden variety tech support router crap calls that you will wonder >>>> how you ever lived without them. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: Darin Steffl >>>> > Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 7:06 PM >>>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If you just get the gigacenter 844E, they start at $109 and go down >>>> based on purchase agreements. We get them for $100 each. I don't find that >>>> expensive at all. Their mesh solution is great and affordable too. >>>> > >>>> > By far better than any other managed solution available today. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2020, 4:58 PM Dev < d...@logicalwebhost.com > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > What routers are you using in the home for fiber deployments? Calix >>>> has some that are gold-plated and made with baby s
