Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-14 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Yeah the v3 is kick ass,  so much better than the older ones.  I do love the 
warning of high doses of Vit C will kill the sensor ☺

I don’t even have T2D but use it to get a feel for what foods do what to spikes 
and such,  helps make better choices.Though the tape on these doesn’t seem 
to be a good,  lost a few / had to start using the covers to get the full 2 
week out of them.


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I've had the FreeStyle and now the FreeStyle 3. I love my 3.

I will note that for my kind of diabetes, it may be unnecessary, but it is fun 
to collect data.


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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you
Thanks, she is back to chewing my ass so I think she is OK.  She has a 
continuous glucose monitor now.  It appears that she needs a bit more attention 
to the problem.  In the end it seems to be a good thing but was not fun.



From: Bill Prince
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:20 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you


Scary story, but not the first time I've heard about adverse reactions to some 
medicines.

Hope that she's OK now.



bp


On 8/10/2023 7:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became incredibly 
ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to).  Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity.  Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA.  So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there.  She got better but they 
would not release her.  I finally just sprung her and we got home and went 
directly to a hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set up an 
appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to a 
worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill again, took 
her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one of the people that 
Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for 
type 1 diabetes).  Super scary.  So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop 
vomiting, super (and I mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) 
it could be this.  Don’t think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated.




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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-14 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
My insurance (which is self insurance and a third party administrator) is 
declining to pay for the monitor.  ...
There are a whole pile of monitors out there now.  Just got an ad for a sensor 
that lasts 6 months.  



From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 7:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

I've had the FreeStyle and now the FreeStyle 3. I love my 3.

I will note that for my kind of diabetes, it may be unnecessary, but it is fun 
to collect data.




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 1:54:15 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you


Thanks, she is back to chewing my ass so I think she is OK.  She has a 
continuous glucose monitor now.  It appears that she needs a bit more attention 
to the problem.  In the end it seems to be a good thing but was not fun.  



From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:20 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

Scary story, but not the first time I've heard about adverse reactions to some 
medicines. 


Hope that she's OK now.



bp
On 8/10/2023 7:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became 
incredibly ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her she 
needed an ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her 
to).  Super high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about the “anion gap” that 
is a measure of blood acidity.  Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis 
DKA.  So we spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there.  She got better 
but they would not release her.  I finally just sprung her and we got home and 
went directly to a hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set 
up an appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to a 
worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill again, took 
her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one of the people that 
Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for 
type 1 diabetes).  Super scary.  So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop 
vomiting, super (and I mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) 
it could be this.  Don’t think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated. 
 


   


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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I've had the FreeStyle and now the FreeStyle 3. I love my 3. 

I will note that for my kind of diabetes, it may be unnecessary, but it is fun 
to collect data. 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF"  
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"  
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 1:54:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 




Thanks, she is back to chewing my ass so I think she is OK. She has a 
continuous glucose monitor now. It appears that she needs a bit more attention 
to the problem. In the end it seems to be a good thing but was not fun. 






From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:20 AM 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 


Scary story, but not the first time I've heard about adverse reactions to some 
medicines. 

Hope that she's OK now. 
bp
 
On 8/10/2023 7:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: 





Was in Spain a few weeks ago. My wife tried to croak on me. Became incredibly 
ill one night. One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to). Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc. Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity. Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA. So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there. She got better but they would 
not release her. I finally just sprung her and we got home and went directly to 
a hospital here. She was stable enough to go home. She set up an appointment 
with her Dr and was OK for a week. Just chalked it up to a worsening of her 
type 2 diabetes. At the Dr office she became ill again, took her to the ER. 
They finally figured out that she is one of the people that Jardiance can kill. 
I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for type 1 diabetes). 
Super scary. So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop vomiting, super (and I 
mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) it could be this. Don’t 
think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated. 





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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-12 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Thanks, she is back to chewing my ass so I think she is OK.  She has a 
continuous glucose monitor now.  It appears that she needs a bit more attention 
to the problem.  In the end it seems to be a good thing but was not fun.  



From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 10:20 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

Scary story, but not the first time I've heard about adverse reactions to some 
medicines. 


Hope that she's OK now.



bp
On 8/10/2023 7:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

  Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became 
incredibly ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her she 
needed an ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her 
to).  Super high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about the “anion gap” that 
is a measure of blood acidity.  Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis 
DKA.  So we spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there.  She got better 
but they would not release her.  I finally just sprung her and we got home and 
went directly to a hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set 
up an appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to a 
worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill again, took 
her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one of the people that 
Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for 
type 1 diabetes).  Super scary.  So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop 
vomiting, super (and I mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) 
it could be this.  Don’t think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated. 
 


   



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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-12 Thread Bill Prince
Scary story, but not the first time I've heard about adverse reactions 
to some medicines.


Hope that she's OK now.


bp


On 8/10/2023 7:01 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became 
incredibly ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her 
she needed an ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying 
to get her to).  Super high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about 
the “anion gap” that is a measure of blood acidity.  Turns out she had 
acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA.  So we spent our Barcelona vacation 
in a hospital there.  She got better but they would not release her.  
I finally just sprung her and we got home and went directly to a 
hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set up an 
appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to 
a worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill 
again, took her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one 
of the people that Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people 
(usually DKA is reserved for type 1 diabetes). Super scary.  So if 
someone on Jardiance starts non stop vomiting, super (and I mean 
super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) it could be this.  
Don’t think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated.
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Ah, I've been on it maybe 3 years? 


I'm on 25 mg. 




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From: ch...@go-mtc.com 
To: "Mike Hammett" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 6:52:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 




For several years. They recently increased the dose and I think that triggered 
the problem. 
It is a very rare side effect. 

For me it lowered my glucose and my blood pressure. 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:15 PM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 


How long was she on Jardiance? So far, I've been side effect-free, as far as I 
know. 

It didn't seem to do much for me, but given that it also has cardiovascular 
benefits, they kept me on it. 

I'm neither type 1, nor type 2, so that could be why. I have an obscure type. 
Ozempic seems to have been benefiting a little. 




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From: "Chuck McCown via AF"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 9:01:25 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 




Was in Spain a few weeks ago. My wife tried to croak on me. Became incredibly 
ill one night. One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to). Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc. Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity. Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA. So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there. She got better but they would 
not release her. I finally just sprung her and we got home and went directly to 
a hospital here. She was stable enough to go home. She set up an appointment 
with her Dr and was OK for a week. Just chalked it up to a worsening of her 
type 2 diabetes. At the Dr office she became ill again, took her to the ER. 
They finally figured out that she is one of the people that Jardiance can kill. 
I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for type 1 diabetes). 
Super scary. So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop vomiting, super (and I 
mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) it could be this. Don’t 
think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated. 

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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-11 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
For several years.  They recently increased the dose and I think that triggered 
the problem.
It is a very rare side effect.  

For me it lowered my glucose and my blood pressure.  

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 1:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

How long was she on Jardiance? So far, I've been side effect-free, as far as I 
know. 

It didn't seem to do much for me, but given that it also has cardiovascular 
benefits, they kept me on it.

I'm neither type 1, nor type 2, so that could be why. I have an obscure type. 
Ozempic seems to have been benefiting a little.




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Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

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From: "Chuck McCown via AF" 
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 9:01:25 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] OT  Jardiance can kill  you


Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became incredibly 
ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to).  Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity.  Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA.  So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there.  She got better but they 
would not release her.  I finally just sprung her and we got home and went 
directly to a hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set up an 
appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to a 
worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill again, took 
her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one of the people that 
Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for 
type 1 diabetes).  Super scary.  So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop 
vomiting, super (and I mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-11 Thread Mike Hammett
How long was she on Jardiance? So far, I've been side effect-free, as far as I 
know. 


It didn't seem to do much for me, but given that it also has cardiovascular 
benefits, they kept me on it. 

I'm neither type 1, nor type 2, so that could be why. I have an obscure type. 
Ozempic seems to have been benefiting a little. 




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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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From: "Chuck McCown via AF"  
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 9:01:25 AM 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you 




Was in Spain a few weeks ago. My wife tried to croak on me. Became incredibly 
ill one night. One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to). Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc. Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity. Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA. So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there. She got better but they would 
not release her. I finally just sprung her and we got home and went directly to 
a hospital here. She was stable enough to go home. She set up an appointment 
with her Dr and was OK for a week. Just chalked it up to a worsening of her 
type 2 diabetes. At the Dr office she became ill again, took her to the ER. 
They finally figured out that she is one of the people that Jardiance can kill. 
I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for type 1 diabetes). 
Super scary. So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop vomiting, super (and I 
mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) it could be this. Don’t 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

2023-08-11 Thread tpatel
Oh wow.

 

I hope she is doing better now.  I wish her the best and full recovery too.

 

Tushar

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 9:01 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
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Subject: [AFMUG] OT Jardiance can kill you

 

Was in Spain a few weeks ago.  My wife tried to croak on me.  Became incredibly 
ill one night.  One of our daughters finally convinced her she needed an 
ambulance (she would not agree to that when I was trying to get her to).  Super 
high blood sugar, ketones etc.  Learned about the “anion gap” that is a measure 
of blood acidity.  Turns out she had acute diabetic keto acidosis DKA.  So we 
spent our Barcelona vacation in a hospital there.  She got better but they 
would not release her.  I finally just sprung her and we got home and went 
directly to a hospital here.  She was stable enough to go home.  She set up an 
appointment with her Dr and was OK for a week.  Just chalked it up to a 
worsening of her type 2 diabetes.  At the Dr office she became ill again, took 
her to the ER.  They finally figured out that she is one of the people that 
Jardiance can kill.  I causes DKA in some people (usually DKA is reserved for 
type 1 diabetes).  Super scary.  So if someone on Jardiance starts non stop 
vomiting, super (and I mean super) high heart rate (150) and respiration (100) 
it could be this.  Don’t think they simply ate something bad or are dehydrated. 
 

 

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